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(NYPost)   Not really serious Vladimir Putin says Russia ready to negotiate over Ukraine, claims West refuses to come to the table   (nypost.com) divider line
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BizarreMan [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 8:20:35 AM  
What concessions is he willing to make?
How much reparations is he willing to pay?
How high a window is he willing to "fall" from?
 
Garza and the Supermutants [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 8:36:52 AM  
It's a boxer who's getting his ass kicked trying to hug his opponent and make it until the end of the round.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 8:50:39 AM  
Pull every goddamn soldier out of Ukraine, then there might be some negotiating.
 
wademh
2022-12-25 9:07:59 AM  
First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 9:12:24 AM  

Jake Havechek: Pull every goddamn soldier out of Ukraine, then there might be some negotiating.


Don't forget about Crimea.
 
AlwaysRightBoy [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 9:29:12 AM  

wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.


How about Snake Island off of Ukraine's coast, it's more fitting.
 
oldernell [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 9:50:06 AM  
GTFO is non negotiable.
 
Notabunny [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 10:23:26 AM  
I don't think "Russia keeps all the land we stole," and "Ukrainian grandmothers have to return Russia's tanks," isn't what Zelensky considers to be negotiating in good faith
 
leeksfromchichis [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 10:31:15 AM  

AlwaysRightBoy: wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.

How about Snake Island off of Ukraine's coast, it's more fitting.


That's Ukranian territory.
 
AlwaysRightBoy [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 10:33:30 AM  

leeksfromchichis: AlwaysRightBoy: wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.

How about Snake Island off of Ukraine's coast, it's more fitting.

That's Ukranian territory.


Which would make it even more satisfying to the Ukrainian people.
 
zeroman987
2022-12-25 10:49:37 AM  

AlwaysRightBoy: leeksfromchichis: AlwaysRightBoy: wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.

How about Snake Island off of Ukraine's coast, it's more fitting.

That's Ukranian territory.

Which would make it even more satisfying to the Ukrainian people.


Every day a Ukrainian gets to poop in his mouth.
 
BitwiseShift
2022-12-25 10:50:03 AM  
Why isn't Putin on the front lines, in a convertible, encouraging his troops to keep the invasion going.  It's Christmas.
 
Glicky
2022-12-25 10:50:40 AM  
There is no negotiation required, he just needs to leave.
 
Exile On Beale Street [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 10:51:20 AM  

wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.


I thought we bought that. 🙄
 
awruk! [OhFark]
2022-12-25 10:52:21 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jake Havechek: Pull every goddamn soldier out of Ukraine, then there might be some negotiating.

Don't forget about Crimea.


Crimea is Ukraine.
 
3rd world republipuke
2022-12-25 10:52:28 AM  
Unconditional Surrender. Those are our negotiation terms.
Slava Ukraini...
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 10:52:44 AM  
The table he rigged with explosives and poison?
Thanks, I'll pass.
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 10:53:25 AM  
Ukrainian ambassador to Vlad the Mad:

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Barricaded Gunman
2022-12-25 10:55:31 AM  
While speaking with Rossiya 1 state television, Putin said: "We are ready to negotiate with everyone involved about acceptable solutions, but that is up to them - we are not the ones refusing to negotiate, they are," Putin claimed.

Unless you're willing to "negotiate" a bullet in your ugly little face, f*ck off, Russian murder dwarf.
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2022-12-25 10:57:49 AM  
Eat a turd on live TV. Then we'll talk.
 
pheed
2022-12-25 10:57:52 AM  
Tell you what, Pooty: you get to keep Josh Hawley and MTG, but you have to fark off forever.
 
groppet
2022-12-25 10:58:35 AM  
Pull every soldier out, including Crimea, respirations for everything destroyed or person killed, everyone you kidnapped returned and then go fark yourself and get strung up by the families of every Russian soldier you let die.
 
groppet
2022-12-25 10:59:24 AM  

pheed: Tell you what, Pooty: you get to keep Josh Hawley and MTG, but you have to fark off forever.


I am willing to throw in Tucker Carlson too.
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2022-12-25 10:59:52 AM  

groppet: Pull every soldier out, including Crimea, respirations for everything destroyed or person killed, everyone you kidnapped returned and then go fark yourself and get strung up by the families of every Russian soldier you let die.


That doesn't give a lot of breathing room.

/bad joke
 
awruk! [OhFark]
2022-12-25 11:00:14 AM  

Glicky: There is no negotiation required, he just needs to leave.


They need to return all the abducted people, children in particular, back to Ukraine.

/ One can try to negotiate the reparations, but realistically that's much less likely...
// I would rather take a loan from EU to rebuild the country than touched the Russian money
 
Aquapope
2022-12-25 11:00:14 AM  
Are Russian mobsters dumb enough to rob a bank then negotiate with cops for how much money they get to keep?  And how many bank employees they get to take home as slaves?  No?  Not even the lowest Russian mobster is that dumb?  Hmmmm.  Maybe he's not the organized crime mastermind he pretends to be.
 
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 11:00:48 AM  

groppet: ... respirations for everything destroyed or person killed...


I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Ray44512
2022-12-25 11:07:12 AM  
Surrender Vlad, it's that simple.
 
Zyme
2022-12-25 11:09:13 AM  

wademh: First, which remote island would you choose for your exile? I'm thinking of a few off the coast of Greenland.


I'm a traditionalist, I say St. Halina
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2022-12-25 11:12:45 AM  
1) Russia withdrawals from all of Ukraine, including Crimea.
2) Russia pays for rebuilding Ukraine, no strings attached.
3) Putin puts a bullet in his brain.
 
maniacbastard
2022-12-25 11:13:27 AM  
If Russia wants to have peace talks that is fine, but no cease fire.
 
New Rising Sun
2022-12-25 11:14:05 AM  
I assume Russia's negotiating position is:

1) we win.
2) land bridge to Crimea
3) international agreement on immunity for Russian leadership on any warcriming.
4) international sanctions removed
5) Ukraine amends its constitution to include its non-NATOness
 
gremlin79
2022-12-25 11:14:20 AM  

Aquapope: Are Russian mobsters dumb enough to rob a bank then negotiate with cops for how much money they get to keep?  And how many bank employees they get to take home as slaves?  No?  Not even the lowest Russian mobster is that dumb?  Hmmmm.  Maybe he's not the organized crime mastermind he pretends to be.


Russian mobsters tend to already own the bank.
 
Flincher
2022-12-25 11:16:49 AM  
Go get your farking shine box, Pooty.
 
RocketRay [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 11:20:11 AM  
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Summoner101
2022-12-25 11:21:44 AM  
Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation
 
Short Victoria's War
2022-12-25 11:23:22 AM  
The west came to the table.  Waaaayyy down at the other end.  Here's a telescope.

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Summoner101
2022-12-25 11:27:17 AM  

Summoner101: Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation


In short:

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austerity101
2022-12-25 11:27:52 AM  

Summoner101: Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation


That's his whole point. He's framing this dishonestly to poison the well.
 
Larva Lump
2022-12-25 11:31:56 AM  
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist

Eat a turd Suck-start a Makarov on live TV. Then we'll talk.

Fixed.
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 11:33:22 AM  
When Putin talks about a "just"  peace, what he means is "just what I want".

He's obviously presenting take it or leave it options at the table. Which is not negotiation, it's extortion.  If he wants to talk, fine. Keep him talking while you load every f*cking weapon you can fit into Ukraine.

Slava Ukraini. Slava Ukrayinsʹki traktory.
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2022-12-25 11:35:36 AM  

Summoner101: Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation


Because Russia is a superpower, therefore it only negotiates with other superpowers -- political players on their level. They don't negotiate with, much less recognize the authority of, weak-ass two-bit non-states that don't even have a right to exist.
 
Summoner101
2022-12-25 11:39:19 AM  

Ishkur: Summoner101: Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation

Because Russia is a superpower, therefore it only negotiates with other superpowers -- political players on their level. They don't negotiate with, much less recognize the authority of, weak-ass two-bit non-states that don't even have a right to exist.


At least that's what Putin is telling himself.  At this point, Ukraine is more of a superpower than Russia.
 
Kittypie070
2022-12-25 11:40:00 AM  
Hey Poot, can you go die in a fire first? We'd be happy to "negotiate" with you then.
 
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-25 11:40:12 AM  

Summoner101: Why does the West need to come to the table?  While the West is supporting Ukraine, Ukraine isn't some territory Russia and the West are legally fighting over.  Ukraine is a sovereign nation


Because the entire position of Russia is that there is no Ukraine, it is *already* part of Russia, and therefore it has no standing to negotiate. It is not Ukraine that is preventing Russia from occupying its own lands, it is NATO.

Therefore, they say that the two parties that need to negotiate are NATO and Russia.
 
farkitallletitend
2022-12-25 11:40:47 AM  
GTFO give back Crimea. Answer by leaving and giving back Crimea. Negotiations over. Oh and the sanctions stand so long as Putin is anywhere but in a pine box.  FO.
 
cefm
2022-12-25 11:44:44 AM  
The table:
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colon_pow
2022-12-25 11:49:47 AM  
Obama let them have Crimea. Let russia keep that and stop the killing.
 
andrewagill [TotalFark]
2022-12-25 11:54:23 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jake Havechek: Pull every goddamn soldier out of Ukraine, then there might be some negotiating.

Don't forget about Crimea.


That's what Jake said
 
Barricaded Gunman
2022-12-25 11:57:28 AM  

colon_pow: Obama let them have Crimea. Let russia keep that and stop the killing.


Here's another of your political ruminations:

"it's called reality. they don't have anything on trump. nothing. deep down inside you know that."

Just to put your most recent brain dribbling into proper context.
 
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