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2022-12-17 10:48:44 PM  
Are they sure they weren't just models of Blue Origin rockets?

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2022-12-17 11:37:31 PM  
He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences
 
2022-12-18 12:50:18 AM  
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2022-12-18 1:19:56 AM  
Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"
 
2022-12-18 2:30:49 AM  
He discussed male genital piercings and oral sex in public, including at a military retirement ceremony, according to the report. Cox was also allegedly a fan of using "That's what she said," a joke that sexualizes otherwise innocuous comments, and other profanity.

The blindingly obvious question here is, what's his Fark handle?
 
2022-12-18 4:07:28 AM  

Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"


Yeah, I hate Trump, too.

But if you only knew just how reliant we are on satellite communications, you would understand why a full dedicated branch is necessary for its defense. Air Force was one part of the Army. It split off, too.

/It has a shiatty name, still.
 
2022-12-18 6:09:20 AM  

Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"


Netflix cancelled it
 
2022-12-18 6:24:26 AM  

Thoreny: Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"

Yeah, I hate Trump, too.

But if you only knew just how reliant we are on satellite communications, you would understand why a full dedicated branch is necessary for its defense. Air Force was one part of the Army. It split off, too.

/It has a shiatty name, still.


Akshully...
 
2022-12-18 6:29:13 AM  

AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences


Maybe so. However, I think that in a lot of cases, if behavior can be corrected, we should do so. Firing people outright doesn't necessarily solve the issue, but making that person self-correct and be an example to others can be a better solution in the long run.

Add to that the fact that people aren't exactly lining up to join the military right now and the threat picture with Russia and China is lining up to be pretty bad as well. The emphasis should be on retaining and retraining.
 
2022-12-18 6:32:25 AM  

AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences


When it comes to success at the higher ranks, there is a lot more forgiveness than at the middle manager level.  That said, if you take apart the language of the description of his antics, it seemed to be immature stuff and NOT sexual harassment or anything like that.  Additionally, no one accused him of retaliation for not liking his his actions and even though he told one complaintant that he would stop his silliness around her (as she wanted) she still quit.

While I have had a few senior leaders who were brilliant and inspirational, I have mostly had tyrants, milquetoast pushovers, or a combination of both.  I'd take this guy with his radioshow antics any day over some of the jerks and nobodies that had "led" my organization in recent years.
 
2022-12-18 6:35:38 AM  
I'm surprised they didn't make him change his name.
 
2022-12-18 6:41:56 AM  

AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences


It did not sound like there were any criminal or harassment offenses that took place.

It was unprofessional; but I guess the higher rank, and the obvious talent he brings to the position, he got a pass.
 
2022-12-18 6:41:59 AM  
Yes, but what did Lisa Kudrow do to end up in jail!?!

/I'm going to ask this in EVERY Space Force thread, because I want to know!
 
2022-12-18 6:43:05 AM  

sleze: AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences

When it comes to success at the higher ranks, there is a lot more forgiveness than at the middle manager level.  That said, if you take apart the language of the description of his antics, it seemed to be immature stuff and NOT sexual harassment or anything like that.  Additionally, no one accused him of retaliation for not liking his his actions and even though he told one complaintant that he would stop his silliness around her (as she wanted) she still quit.

While I have had a few senior leaders who were brilliant and inspirational, I have mostly had tyrants, milquetoast pushovers, or a combination of both.  I'd take this guy with his radioshow antics any day over some of the jerks and nobodies that had "led" my organization in recent years.


His leadership style appears to be working for most of the team, and even the ones that didn't like some of his behavior admit he is really good at his job.

Why can't we have a little fun in the workplace? Why does everything have to be so stuffy and uptight, especially in a position which demands creativity and non-conformist thinking? Maybe they should relax the rules on silly behavior....
 
2022-12-18 6:43:58 AM  

sleze: AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences

When it comes to success at the higher ranks, there is a lot more forgiveness than at the middle manager level.  That said, if you take apart the language of the description of his antics, it seemed to be immature stuff and NOT sexual harassment or anything like that.  Additionally, no one accused him of retaliation for not liking his his actions and even though he told one complaintant that he would stop his silliness around her (as she wanted) she still quit.

While I have had a few senior leaders who were brilliant and inspirational, I have mostly had tyrants, milquetoast pushovers, or a combination of both.  I'd take this guy with his radioshow antics any day over some of the jerks and nobodies that had "led" my organization in recent years.



Username check out.

But seriously you are not that wrong.  In the list of crappy bosses and "leaders" I have met over the years this guy wouldn't even make the top 20.

Basically he just needs a sterner version of the talk I gave to one of my subordinates who was pulling similar crap years ago.

"Bob, that 100k you get paid each year for doing your job, it is also paying you to NOT do things.   One of those things you are paid NOT to do is tell dick jokes.  I assume you would like to continue to be paid to not tell dick jokes, so check yourself, next time you think of a really funny dick joke ask yourself; is it 100k a year funny?  If not keep it to yourself."
 
2022-12-18 6:47:47 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: He discussed male genital piercings and oral sex in public, including at a military retirement ceremony, according to the report. Cox was also allegedly a fan of using "That's what she said," a joke that sexualizes otherwise innocuous comments, and other profanity.

The blindingly obvious question here is, what's his Fark handle?


Spinner84...
 
2022-12-18 6:48:17 AM  

Squid_for_Brains: [Fark user image image 425x318]


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/ yes, truly anything can be a dildo if you're brave heartless enough
 
2022-12-18 6:49:43 AM  
The Space Force never sleeps.

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2022-12-18 6:50:38 AM  

buntz: Yes, but what did Lisa Kudrow do to end up in jail!?!

/I'm going to ask this in EVERY Space Force thread, because I want to know!


https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a32729250/space-force-why-is-mom-lisa-kudrow-in-jail-crime/
 
2022-12-18 6:54:38 AM  
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2022-12-18 6:54:46 AM  
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2022-12-18 6:57:28 AM  

sinko swimo: buntz: Yes, but what did Lisa Kudrow do to end up in jail!?!

/I'm going to ask this in EVERY Space Force thread, because I want to know!

https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a32729250/space-force-why-is-mom-lisa-kudrow-in-jail-crime/


Rich white people only go to jail in America for stealing from even richer white people. Thats why Space Phoebe is in jail.
 
2022-12-18 7:00:41 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: He discussed male genital piercings and oral sex in public, including at a military retirement ceremony, according to the report. Cox was also allegedly a fan of using "That's what she said," a joke that sexualizes otherwise innocuous comments, and other profanity.

The blindingly obvious question here is, what's his Fark handle?


/The blindingly obvious question...
//I see what you did there.  Well, actually I don't *see* it because, well...
///Hairy palms are also an issue that I have.
 
2022-12-18 7:07:38 AM  
90s Office Guy is always a bore.
 
2022-12-18 7:08:27 AM  

buntz: Yes, but what did Lisa Kudrow do to end up in jail!?!

/I'm going to ask this in EVERY Space Force thread, because I want to know!


Mattress tags. Not even once.
 
2022-12-18 7:23:17 AM  
It's not like he has anything else to do with his time.
 
2022-12-18 7:38:53 AM  
Not exactly on topic, but the The Chief Master Sergeant seems like a nice enough guy with a good sense of humor.

Red, White & Greenland: Stephen Cold-Bear is Lost in Space Force
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2022-12-18 7:44:59 AM  

Greymalkin: "Bob, that 100k you get paid each year for doing your job, it is also paying you to NOT do things.   One of those things you are paid NOT to do is tell dick jokes.  I assume you would like to continue to be paid to not tell dick jokes, so check yourself, next time you think of a really funny dick joke ask yourself; is it 100k a year funny?  If not keep it to yourself."


And just think, if he DOES tell one well then you're gonna hear one hell of a hilarious dick joke if he decides it's worth speaking up.  Win/win
 
2022-12-18 7:45:09 AM  
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2022-12-18 7:45:38 AM  
Space Force. Eye roll every time
 
2022-12-18 7:47:33 AM  

Jumbled: Thoreny: Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"

Yeah, I hate Trump, too.

But if you only knew just how reliant we are on satellite communications, you would understand why a full dedicated branch is necessary for its defense. Air Force was one part of the Army. It split off, too.

/It has a shiatty name, still.

Akshully...


Oh my, you so totally refuted me.
 
2022-12-18 7:47:38 AM  
It began with a pair of sparkly pants....Andrew Cox received a framed pair of tight, silver pants as a gag gift. He hung the glittery jeans behind his office door with a note: "Break here in the event of an emergency."

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2022-12-18 7:48:56 AM  

AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences


Do you fire the people who brought the gifts as well? Or just hook because he thinks they are funny and keeps them around?
 
2022-12-18 7:52:07 AM  
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2022-12-18 8:03:51 AM  

Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"


I like how they throw the word 'space' in front of whatever they're talking about. Space combat, space tactics, space logistics. The reality is they are trying to create a solution to a problem that doesn't exist (yet), thereby actually creating the problem.
 
2022-12-18 8:06:32 AM  
Set Phasers to stimulate.
 
2022-12-18 8:07:28 AM  

Greymalkin: sleze: AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences

When it comes to success at the higher ranks, there is a lot more forgiveness than at the middle manager level.  That said, if you take apart the language of the description of his antics, it seemed to be immature stuff and NOT sexual harassment or anything like that.  Additionally, no one accused him of retaliation for not liking his his actions and even though he told one complaintant that he would stop his silliness around her (as she wanted) she still quit.

While I have had a few senior leaders who were brilliant and inspirational, I have mostly had tyrants, milquetoast pushovers, or a combination of both.  I'd take this guy with his radioshow antics any day over some of the jerks and nobodies that had "led" my organization in recent years.


Username check out.

But seriously you are not that wrong.  In the list of crappy bosses and "leaders" I have met over the years this guy wouldn't even make the top 20.

Basically he just needs a sterner version of the talk I gave to one of my subordinates who was pulling similar crap years ago.

"Bob, that 100k you get paid each year for doing your job, it is also paying you to NOT do things.   One of those things you are paid NOT to do is tell dick jokes.  I assume you would like to continue to be paid to not tell dick jokes, so check yourself, next time you think of a really funny dick joke ask yourself; is it 100k a year funny?  If not keep it to yourself."


This. There are correctable problems, childish jokes included , and non-correctable problems, like actual harassment. Dude needs a hard smackdown, but possibly not dismissal. OTOH, I've got no idea what's already been done.
 
2022-12-18 8:23:16 AM  
I get the feeling that Fark hasn't seen the last of this guy.
 
2022-12-18 8:30:12 AM  

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Ah, Angelique Pettyjohn. She has some interesting photos out there.
 
2022-12-18 8:38:17 AM  

Hey Nurse!: Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"

I like how they throw the word 'space' in front of whatever they're talking about. Space combat, space tactics, space logistics. The reality is they are trying to create a solution to a problem that doesn't exist (yet), thereby actually creating the problem.


That was a thing from the old sci-fi movies and serials of the 50's. "We're going to get into our space ship, set our space engines to space speed, and blast the space aliens with our space lasers! Chip! Call Space Command on the space radio and get our space orders!"

"Right away, Captain, as soon as I finish my space coffee!"
 
2022-12-18 8:39:35 AM  

khatores: AirForceVet: He should have lost his job, IMHO. If I had items like the ones described in my office, shop, lab or cubicle as an USAF MSgt or later as a civilian engineer, my career would be toast.

Remember, both in the military and civilian worlds concerning criminal and/or harassment offenses, the higher the rank, the less the consequences

Maybe so. However, I think that in a lot of cases, if behavior can be corrected, we should do so. Firing people outright doesn't necessarily solve the issue, but making that person self-correct and be an example to others can be a better solution in the long run.

Add to that the fact that people aren't exactly lining up to join the military right now and the threat picture with Russia and China is lining up to be pretty bad as well. The emphasis should be on retaining and retraining.


1) I think your heart is in the right please, however the person such as mentioned in the article might just go underground with their behavior, harass individual women instead of being public about the behavior, and open you up for a (worse) future lawsuit for keeping such a person
2) you don't solve the problem for the person, that's their issue to solve. You solve the problem for the workplace so others can take a hint and beware. Otherwise you risk sending the message that you can mess up like this and still be given a chance. Some lines should not be crossed

/and I say that as a person who believes in personal betterment and giving people a chance. Keyword is "personal".
//actions should have consequences
///that's also part of betterment
 
2022-12-18 8:45:17 AM  
Did they catch him space docking?

/Don't look that up
//Really dont I warned you
///Oh now I'm the sicko cause you looked it up despite warnings
 
2022-12-18 8:47:35 AM  
Hey, the guy's going through pon farr. Have a little heart.
 
2022-12-18 8:48:33 AM  

Shostie: Anyone hear the phras "Space Force" and immediately think "that's still a thing?"


I thought Netflix canceled them
 
2022-12-18 8:49:06 AM  
It seems he acquired all of these things during in-office parties and just kept them there since they were "funny gifts".
 
2022-12-18 8:49:14 AM  
So they were giving him those things at office parties as gifts and then complaining about them?
 
2022-12-18 8:50:32 AM  
Cox was also allegedly a fan of using "That's what she said," a joke that sexualizes otherwise innocuous comments, and other profanity.
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2022-12-18 8:51:52 AM  
Super smart space dude with no social skills "acts like 13 year old boy" checks out. They need to assign him an unsightly British matron to keep him on the straight and narrow. Or an Irish nun with a meter stick.
 
2022-12-18 9:06:03 AM  

buntz: Yes, but what did Lisa Kudrow do to end up in jail!?!

/I'm going to ask this in EVERY Space Force thread, because I want to know!


She stole the phalanges from several airplanes, causing multiple flights to be delayed.
 
2022-12-18 9:08:40 AM  
Cox was also allegedly a fan of using "That's what she said," a joke that sexualizes otherwise innocuous comments, and other profanity.

"Thats what she said" is offensive now? Have we really gone that far?
 
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