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(Law and Crime)   Cool: Going on a multistate road trip to spend time with your 8-year-old daughter. Sick: Your deceased daughter   (lawandcrime.com) divider line
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2555 clicks; posted to Main » on 17 Dec 2022 at 4:02 PM (13 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-17 1:03:34 PM  
Murder
 
2022-12-17 1:11:43 PM  
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2022-12-17 4:05:53 PM  
Are we sure they weren't just packing road snacks?

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2022-12-17 4:13:28 PM  
Didn't click. Was it a carpool lane hack?
 
2022-12-17 4:18:15 PM  
How did she like the Corn Palace?
 
2022-12-17 4:20:01 PM  
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2022-12-17 4:29:00 PM  

ChrisDe: Didn't click. Was it a carpool lane hack?


No, it was this:

west.la.lawyer: Murder

 
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2022-12-17 4:29:33 PM  

fat boy: How did she like the Corn Palace?


Has ANYONE who has visited the Corn Palace liked it?  (My parents dragged me there, I dragged my kid there.. still thought it was lame..)
 
2022-12-17 4:31:26 PM  
For a great road trip with cadaver movie check out the little Canadian indie film Highway 61
 
2022-12-17 4:36:58 PM  
I spent quite a while with my dead daughter.  We were kept at the hospital, though.

Handing my daughter over to the coroner was easily the darkest Moment of my life.

He offered me $50 for the body so he could use the HOV lane.  I knew I should have asked for more but he caught me in a moment of weakness.

What a mistake.
 
2022-12-17 4:39:20 PM  
Grief can really fark people up
 
2022-12-17 4:45:43 PM  
I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.
 
2022-12-17 4:47:43 PM  
I've seen this movie...
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2022-12-17 4:51:27 PM  

MythDragon: Grief can really fark people up


No, like said upthread at least twice, this was murder.

There was already a warrant out for homicide by abuse, so there was already probable cause of abuse.

They didn't turn the body in because it showed signs of abuse. They finally decided to get out of town. And they hoped time would erase the physical signs of abuse. I see no other logical fact pattern.

And they might've been right. They may get away with murder and only face charges of "failure to notify law enforcement of the death of a child." It might be hard to show cause of death after a body has been decaying for three months depending on the nature of the abuse. I rooting for a skilled autopsy doc here.
 
2022-12-17 4:52:19 PM  
Probably would have been better if she had been cremated.
 
2022-12-17 4:53:32 PM  

yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.


Oh, that's the "Gay Mom" song
 
2022-12-17 4:54:09 PM  
Well that was terrible and they are terrible.
Poor kid
 
2022-12-17 4:55:45 PM  
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2022-12-17 5:02:16 PM  

west.la.lawyer: Murder


What evidence is there of that?
 
2022-12-17 5:03:10 PM  

aungen: I spent quite a while with my dead daughter.  We were kept at the hospital, though.

Handing my daughter over to the coroner was easily the darkest Moment of my life.

He offered me $50 for the body so he could use the HOV lane.  I knew I should have asked for more but he caught me in a moment of weakness.

What a mistake.


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2022-12-17 5:04:46 PM  
That's definitely a bit sick on the surface. But, we also don't collectively get to decide how a set of parents grieves losing their young daughter. I can see that in a "we wanted to show her the world" misguided sense

//bad idea, but I can understand the logic clouded by grief....
 
2022-12-17 5:06:45 PM  

mgh: fat boy: How did she like the Corn Palace?

Has ANYONE who has visited the Corn Palace liked it?  (My parents dragged me there, I dragged my kid there.. still thought it was lame..)


I've somehow missed this pleasure in life.  A little googling and I have an answer for you however. 

It appears this sister did get some joy out of her brother's misery while there.

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2022-12-17 5:08:20 PM  

drayno76: ...


or brother with long hair, or budget Hansen brother.
 
2022-12-17 5:10:19 PM  
Neglect and abuse.
 
2022-12-17 5:10:50 PM  

waxbeans: west.la.lawyer: Murder

What evidence is there of that?


There was probable cause for that. I don't know what the evidence was, but warrants were issued for homicide by abuse. So some judge somewhere thought there was enough evidence to constitute probable cause for murder.
 
2022-12-17 5:11:55 PM  
Was her name Bernice?
 
2022-12-17 5:15:17 PM  
Just when you think "how stupid can people be"...some moran takes that as a challenge...
 
2022-12-17 5:18:10 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MythDragon: Grief can really fark people up

No, like said upthread at least twice, this was murder.

There was already a warrant out for homicide by abuse, so there was already probable cause of abuse.

They didn't turn the body in because it showed signs of abuse. They finally decided to get out of town. And they hoped time would erase the physical signs of abuse. I see no other logical fact pattern.

And they might've been right. They may get away with murder and only face charges of "failure to notify law enforcement of the death of a child." It might be hard to show cause of death after a body has been decaying for three months depending on the nature of the abuse. I rooting for a skilled autopsy doc here.


Well I didn't RTFA, and I was kinda hoping they were just decent people who were just overwhelmed with tragedy.

Should have realized people just suck
 
2022-12-17 5:19:53 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: MythDragon: Grief can really fark people up

No, like said upthread at least twice, this was murder.

There was already a warrant out for homicide by abuse, so there was already probable cause of abuse.

They didn't turn the body in because it showed signs of abuse. They finally decided to get out of town. And they hoped time would erase the physical signs of abuse. I see no other logical fact pattern.

And they might've been right. They may get away with murder and only face charges of "failure to notify law enforcement of the death of a child." It might be hard to show cause of death after a body has been decaying for three months depending on the nature of the abuse. I rooting for a skilled autopsy doc here.


<sigh> Score another one for wishful thinking about the parents' intents..

Sometimes, people just shouldn't be parents. Poor kid. Hope the hindus are right - she'd deserve it.
 
2022-12-17 5:20:48 PM  

mgh: fat boy: How did she like the Corn Palace?

Has ANYONE who has visited the Corn Palace liked it?  (My parents dragged me there, I dragged my kid there.. still thought it was lame..)


Sorta agree with you there, went thru there in 1972, folks had to stop because that is what we did on road trips. Liked Wall Drug better
 
2022-12-17 5:24:09 PM  

Billy Liar: yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.

Oh, that's the "Gay Mom" song


"I can assure you, regardless of how much your mom likes the the song, I know from personal experience she's not gay" is what I might have replied to someone else who posted that... but you... you seem like like a good sort who doesn't deserve that sort of abuse.
 
2022-12-17 5:29:55 PM  

HighlanderRPI: aungen: I spent quite a while with my dead daughter.  We were kept at the hospital, though.

Handing my daughter over to the coroner was easily the darkest Moment of my life.

He offered me $50 for the body so he could use the HOV lane.  I knew I should have asked for more but he caught me in a moment of weakness.

What a mistake.

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There's a few of us here on fark who've held our dead children in our arms.  We are pretty much all seriously screwed up.  And you'd better believe we all joke about it.

At least the ones I know of. :)
 
2022-12-17 5:33:21 PM  

waxbeans: west.la.lawyer: Murder

What evidence is there of that?


When I read the dead child was adopted and the charges were homicide by abuse, I assumed murder.

Granted, murder is a specific legal charge but IANAL and I'm talking layman's murder.
 
2022-12-17 5:34:34 PM  

mossberg: For a great road trip with cadaver movie check out the little Canadian indie film Highway 61

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2022-12-17 5:36:26 PM  
Open a window for the smell, and it's probably the best long road trip you'd ever have with a kid.  No whining, "are we there yet?" or "I need to go to the bathroom!" or "can we go to that store and buy the thing I saw advertised yesterday?"

Though on a more serious note, losing a kid farks you up real good, and if that was all that happened here I'd be equal parts horrified and empathetic... but it really looks like these folks killed the kid, did not notify authorities because they didn't want to get punished for it, and then decided to take the road trip.  Whether they're operating on below-minimum quantities of brain cells or not, they need to be kept away from other humans.  And each other in case they're still capable of creating new ones.
 
2022-12-17 5:45:27 PM  
This reboot of Faulkner's As I Lay Dying kinda sucks
 
2022-12-17 5:48:55 PM  
Article indicates the dead girl was adopted. The couple were on their way to Pine Ridge. There . . . ain't much in Pine Ridge that's not the Rez.

Here's my speculation:

I am guessing Mom is an enrolled tribal member who got custody of another family member's kid because Bio Parents farked up real bad - family members have legally enforced first dibs in the case of Native adoptions. So these folks ended up with a kid that they really weren't prepared for in various ways. When kid died (from abuse, neglect, or happenstance), Adoptive Mom either couldn't face the wrath of her family right away OR made a deal with them to try to keep everything quiet. This was a trip to take kid's body home to family.
 
2022-12-17 5:57:03 PM  

yahyahyah: Billy Liar: yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.

Oh, that's the "Gay Mom" song

"I can assure you, regardless of how much your mom likes the the song, I know from personal experience she's not gay" is what I might have replied to someone else who posted that... but you... you seem like like a good sort who doesn't deserve that sort of abuse.


No, it's because when I first heard it, I heard, "Hey now, you're an All Star / Get your Gay Mom (game on) and go"
 
2022-12-17 6:00:52 PM  

Billy Liar: yahyahyah: Billy Liar: yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.

Oh, that's the "Gay Mom" song

"I can assure you, regardless of how much your mom likes the the song, I know from personal experience she's not gay" is what I might have replied to someone else who posted that... but you... you seem like like a good sort who doesn't deserve that sort of abuse.

No, it's because when I first heard it, I heard, "Hey now, you're an All Star / Get your Gay Mom (game on) and go"


I somehow hadn't heard of that before and I've always enjoyed the "bathroom on the right" and "kiss this guy" type misheard lyrics.

Thanks
 
2022-12-17 6:01:13 PM  
That went from grief stricken parents to hiding a murder pretty quick

Yeah, they "accidentally" killed her
 
2022-12-17 6:07:08 PM  
At least she wasn't propped up in the back seat with half a dozen Happy Meals on her lap. With the toys taken
out and lovingly placed in her corpsey little hands to keep her occupied on the trip.
 
2022-12-17 6:07:58 PM  

yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.


Fat people, road trip, dead kid... I think you have to go with Yakety Sax
 
2022-12-17 6:24:37 PM  
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2022-12-17 7:26:01 PM  

gonegirl: mossberg: For a great road trip with cadaver movie check out the little Canadian indie film Highway 61

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So would National Lampoon's Vacation.
 
2022-12-17 7:33:45 PM  
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2022-12-17 7:43:46 PM  

yahyahyah: I really like the whole "mug shots at an angle" thing. In this case it's adding a certain sense of whimsy, which is much needed given the dark nature of the story. With that jaunty angle it almost feels like the classic American standard All Star by Smash Mouth should be the background music for the story.


the two pics are also perfectly aligned!  it's like a chorus line
 
2022-12-17 8:48:30 PM  

aungen: I spent quite a while with my dead daughter.  We were kept at the hospital, though.

Handing my daughter over to the coroner was easily the darkest Moment of my life.

He offered me $50 for the body so he could use the HOV lane.  I knew I should have asked for more but he caught me in a moment of weakness.

What a mistake.


See, that's how he was able to lowball you with the $50 offer.

They know you're weak, and as I like to say when I'm behind the Denny's, $50 is $50...

/Genuinely sorry for your loss.
 
2022-12-17 8:53:52 PM  
Corn Palace sucks. Pioneer Village in Nebraska is where it's at!
 
2022-12-17 9:21:31 PM  
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2022-12-17 10:35:29 PM  
According to the article, the girl was adopted by the woman. It says nothing about how the man's related to her since he's just dating the woman. If this child was adopted from the state system, there's a monthly stipend the adoptive parents receive. Perhaps the girl died naturally & the woman just can't do w/o the stipend so they took off in a panic. I can't imagine what their plan was - stall the authorities till January so they get a last monthly payment?
 
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