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(Some Guy) Hero Rejoice, no longer is a Gatorade bottle and adult diapers required for truckers at depots.The Trucker Bathroom Access Act was introduced in the House. Shippers, retailers, and marine terminals would be required to open their facilities to truckers   (freightwaves.com) divider line
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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2022-12-16 9:58:55 PM  
Places not covered include rail facilities, as well as "any structure such as a filling station, service station or restaurant of 800 square feet or less that has a restroom located within such structure that is only intended for use by employees."

Way to give them guidelines on how big to build the next gas station...
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-16 10:23:50 PM  
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hotrod2001
2022-12-17 12:26:00 AM  
Which is funny since all the truckers I knew down here in NC a few years ago couldn't stop talking about the "bathroom bill" our former governor enacted.  No wonder they were so bitter.
 
Wireless Joe
2022-12-17 12:26:06 AM  
I thought it was less about not having a place to use the bathroom, and more about not being allowed to take the time to stop to use the bathroom?
 
austerity101
2022-12-17 12:27:31 AM  
We can't even get rail workers sick days and we'd rather break up their strikes. If they pass this after doing that, we need to be asking a lot of questions as to why.
 
BMulligan
2022-12-17 12:29:40 AM  
FTFA: "The Trucker Bathroom Access Act, introduced Thursday by U.S. Reps. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) and Chrissy 'Hot Lips' Houlahan (D-Penn.), adds language to federal law to ensure such access while drivers are working."

I think I quoted that correctly.
 
OptimisticCynicism [BareFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 12:30:26 AM  

Wireless Joe: I thought it was less about not having a place to use the bathroom, and more about not being allowed to take the time to stop to use the bathroom?


No, they get to wait for hours at loading facilities without any access to bathrooms or other amenities.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2022-12-17 12:31:29 AM  
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Hell Poodle
2022-12-17 12:34:36 AM  
Good, some warehouses put truckers through total bullshiat. They'll make truckers wait over 6 hours and even days to get a truck loaded or received.
 
Aussie_As
2022-12-17 12:36:57 AM  
Lindsay Graham supported the bill because he'd read the title and thought it was about him being allowed access to truckers' bathrooms.
 
Valter
2022-12-17 12:42:14 AM  
The what...?

In case you didn't know, and I didn't know until just recently, not all truck cabs are built the same way. Behold the sleeper cab:

Big Rig Sleeping Is Better Than You Think | Time for Trucks Extra
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nakmuay
2022-12-17 12:43:12 AM  
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whatshisname [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 12:44:10 AM  
I can't imagine this wasn't already an ADA regulation.
 
Valter
2022-12-17 12:47:46 AM  

Valter: The what...?

In case you didn't know, and I didn't know until just recently, not all truck cabs are built the same way. Behold the sleeper cab:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/a9ew6KQeZfs]


You can tell the difference between a sleeper cab and a non-sleeper by how long the cab is. If it is just a short li'l thing then it isn't a sleeper. If it has junk in the trunk then there's something going on in there.
 
jon787 [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 12:48:50 AM  
I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.
 
austerity101
2022-12-17 12:50:59 AM  

Valter: The what...?

In case you didn't know, and I didn't know until just recently, not all truck cabs are built the same way. Behold the sleeper cab:

[YouTube video: Big Rig Sleeping Is Better Than You Think | Time for Trucks Extra]


Oh well in that case, problem solved. Stop whining, truckers!

On a more personal note:  I've definitely hooked up with truckers in those types of rigs. It still ain't a pleasant space.
 
ParadoxDice
2022-12-17 12:52:20 AM  
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sidailurch
2022-12-17 12:52:59 AM  

jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.


I mean, not having bathrooms IS cheaper. Hell they treat their own employees like crap.
 
Karma Chameleon
2022-12-17 12:56:24 AM  
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tembaarmswide [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 12:57:00 AM  

austerity101: We can't even get rail workers sick days and we'd rather break up their strikes. If they pass this after doing that, we need to be asking a lot of questions as to why.


Apples and Oranges.  Railroad employees are an insignificant number compared to the number of truck drivers in America.  I'm not saying railroads shouldn't be giving sick leave and I don't like union busting.  But, this is different.
 
tembaarmswide [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 12:58:30 AM  

sidailurch: jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.

I mean, not having bathrooms IS cheaper. Hell they treat their own employees like crap.


it's a shame "we" spent the past 50 years breaking the power of union, innit?

/we = corporate profiteering
 
shpritz
2022-12-17 1:01:20 AM  

jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.


Yeah, it's really sad that they have to legislate basic decency.
 
here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:07:06 AM  

austerity101: We can't even get rail workers sick days and we'd rather break up their strikes. If they pass this after doing that, we need to be asking a lot of questions as to why.


You have gone off he deep end.

EXTRA sick days. They already have sick days and that railworker sh*t is way more complex than just that and you know it. Nobody got ratf*cked there. It was very typical union negotiations.

This is about denying people a place to sh*t.

Have you ever had to take a sh*t and you simply had to crap yourself because there wasn't a place to sh*t?

Having a place to take a sh*t should be a fundamental human right.

Prove me wrong.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:07:44 AM  

tembaarmswide: sidailurch: jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.

I mean, not having bathrooms IS cheaper. Hell they treat their own employees like crap.

it's a shame "we" spent the past 50 years breaking the power of union, innit?

/we = corporate profiteering


Not just corporate profiteering.  Don't forget that the Hollywood unions and the CIO were desperate to not look communist-friendly in the '50s, and forced out the progressive unions willing to actually fight, which really hurt the union effort nationwide.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:09:02 AM  

here to help: They already have sick days


Yeah, like three a year, and they have to schedule them days in advance.  So vomiting blood in the bathroom five minutes before a shift starts doesn't count, and the worker would be punished for trying to use sick leave.
 
here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:11:54 AM  

NM Volunteer: here to help: They already have sick days

Yeah, like three a year, and they have to schedule them days in advance.  So vomiting blood in the bathroom five minutes before a shift starts doesn't count, and the worker would be punished for trying to use sick leave.


Gonna need a cite for that one old friend.
 
shinji3i
2022-12-17 1:12:57 AM  

here to help: austerity101: We can't even get rail workers sick days and we'd rather break up their strikes. If they pass this after doing that, we need to be asking a lot of questions as to why.

You have gone off he deep end.

EXTRA sick days. They already have sick days and that railworker sh*t is way more complex than just that and you know it. Nobody got ratf*cked there. It was very typical union negotiations.

This is about denying people a place to sh*t.

Have you ever had to take a sh*t and you simply had to crap yourself because there wasn't a place to sh*t?

Having a place to take a sh*t should be a fundamental human right.

Prove me wrong.


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NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:13:19 AM  

here to help: NM Volunteer: here to help: They already have sick days

Yeah, like three a year, and they have to schedule them days in advance.  So vomiting blood in the bathroom five minutes before a shift starts doesn't count, and the worker would be punished for trying to use sick leave.

Gonna need a cite for that one old friend.


Every single article linked to Fark about this subject that mentioned how much sick leave they actually get.
 
WTFdoesitmatter
2022-12-17 1:13:45 AM  

jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.


Those shipping facilities treat truckers (AKA the reason everyone working there has a job) like absolute dogshiat. When I got my CDL, I did about 2 months OTR and was done with it. I took a local job that involved a heavy manual labor component on top of driving the truck over putting up with that on a daily basis.
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:16:20 AM  
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Likwit
2022-12-17 1:18:21 AM  

here to help: austerity101: We can't even get rail workers sick days and we'd rather break up their strikes. If they pass this after doing that, we need to be asking a lot of questions as to why.

You have gone off he deep end.

EXTRA sick days. They already have sick days and that railworker sh*t is way more complex than just that and you know it. Nobody got ratf*cked there. It was very typical union negotiations.

This is about denying people a place to sh*t.

Have you ever had to take a sh*t and you simply had to crap yourself because there wasn't a place to sh*t?

Having a place to take a sh*t should be a fundamental human right.

Prove me wrong.


Wrong.

Congress split the bills in two, one that would enforce their current contract and another that would give them short term sick days. Guess which one passed and which one didn't?
 
here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:19:36 AM  
And let's just say the railway workers got ratf*cked...

Why would allowing long haul truckers have a place to sh*t be anti worker?

Denying them that right would be anti worker.

It's like saying "How DARE you do something good when you didn't do this OTHER thing I think is good therefore STOP DOING THAT SECOND GOOD AND ALL OTHER GOOODS UNTIL ALL MY GOODS HAVE BEEN FULL IMPLEMENTED!!!"

The rail unions can always renegotiate again later.

That's what they do.
 
Another one of them varmits
2022-12-17 1:21:25 AM  
How about requiring them to be paid for the time they spend waiting at the yards?

I bet the whole bathroom situation would go away pretty quick if the drivers weren't forced to sit there waiting for a few hours.
 
alienated
2022-12-17 1:21:53 AM  
I was going to comment but this thread went to hell early. Most places only have a single bottom of the barrel portajohn. Or maybe 2 actual heads inside , if you are lucky. The biggest problem is lack of parking outside of being at a truck stop. Unless one lucks into a half dead mall with a large carpark and a fast food place.
 
Spaced Lion
2022-12-17 1:29:40 AM  
Whoever put their name on that bill is a smart motherfarker. Having that on your resumé is a huge bonus when dealing with any kind of trucking or transportation lobby (and there are a lot).
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:31:26 AM  

here to help: And let's just say the railway workers got ratf*cked...

Why would allowing long haul truckers have a place to sh*t be anti worker?

Denying them that right would be anti worker.

It's like saying "How DARE you do something good when you didn't do this OTHER thing I think is good therefore STOP DOING THAT SECOND GOOD AND ALL OTHER GOOODS UNTIL ALL MY GOODS HAVE BEEN FULL IMPLEMENTED!!!"

The rail unions can always renegotiate again later.

That's what they do.


The point is that Congress didn't do anything to help the railroads, and this bill is only a good start to address systemic problems (assuming it passes).

And the railroad issue is a lot more complex than you are describing it.  The union contract only goes into place if all unions accept it.  Some did, some did not because it didn't address the lack of meaningful sick leave.  Instead of helping the railroads, Congress simply passed a law ordering the unions to accept the contract that only some accepted.
 
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2022-12-17 1:32:46 AM  

Valter: The what...?

In case you didn't know, and I didn't know until just recently, not all truck cabs are built the same way. Behold the sleeper cab:

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You what's not in there? A toilet.
 
tembaarmswide [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:34:00 AM  
here to help:It's like saying "How DARE you do something good when you didn't do this OTHER thing I think is good therefore STOP DOING THAT SECOND GOOD AND ALL OTHER GOOODS UNTIL ALL MY GOODS HAVE BEEN FULL IMPLEMENTED!!!"

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here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:35:28 AM  

shinji3i: It was very typical union negotiations.


It really is. I come from autoworker stock.

Now if US railworkers have somehow only managed to get only three "sick days" per year then their union failed them. I'm guessing that is a pile of hyperbole though.

Even still... I am FAR more concerned about service and warehouse and gig workers right now.

THOSE are industries the union movement need to fight for.

Old powerful unions can help or keep selling their members out to capital like they did my mom.

Not subby and leave my mom alone.
 
replacementcool
2022-12-17 1:35:52 AM  

here to help: And let's just say the railway workers got ratf*cked...

Why would allowing long haul truckers have a place to sh*t be anti worker?

Denying them that right would be anti worker.

It's like saying "How DARE you do something good when you didn't do this OTHER thing I think is good therefore STOP DOING THAT SECOND GOOD AND ALL OTHER GOOODS UNTIL ALL MY GOODS HAVE BEEN FULL IMPLEMENTED!!!"

The rail unions can always renegotiate again later.

That's what they do.


Except that it's not "like" that at all because nobody but you has said the bullshiat strawman you made up for the last part.
 
paulleah
2022-12-17 1:37:50 AM  
We have laws because we can't be trusted to treat each other with humanity without the threat of death or incarceration.
 
moothemagiccow
2022-12-17 1:39:36 AM  
It was introduced in the house? it has all the legal effect of my pathetic comment
 
here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:46:04 AM  

replacementcool: Except that it's not "like" that at all because nobody but you has said the bullshiat strawman you made up for the last part.


I'm sorry. Do you have austerity on ignore?

That's literally what they did.

Thread about letting truuckers have a place to sh*t which is worker positive.

They literally invoked the railway sh*t and questioned why this was done... because the rail stuff didn't work the way they wanted.

NM Volunteer: And the railroad issue is a lot more complex than you are describing it.


Of course it is. I'm pointing out how it is being oversimplified to attack Dems just because "I'M SCARED AND ANGRY AND CONFUSED!!!"

It's unhelpful.

But capitalist "America" has a far deeper systemic problem than either of these issues. These are merely systems and comparatively mild ones.

It is hay for the FUD machines on either side yet only favors ONE side... the rich.

I'm sure you understand my frustration.
 
Cythraul
2022-12-17 1:49:41 AM  
Well, I know where I'm going to be hanging out at in the near future.
 
puffy999 [TotalFark]
2022-12-17 1:49:58 AM  
Lot lizards for some

Tiny non-American flags for others
 
here to help [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-17 1:53:30 AM  

here to help: systems


symptoms


yeesh...
 
MontanaDave
2022-12-17 1:58:59 AM  

Valter: The what...?

In case you didn't know, and I didn't know until just recently, not all truck cabs are built the same way. Behold the sleeper cab:

[YouTube video: Big Rig Sleeping Is Better Than You Think | Time for Trucks Extra]


Having spent a few hundred nights in a truck less well-appointed, i can confirm they are decent accommodations. Cetainly better than a dugout on the Ukrainian front.
 
MontanaDave
2022-12-17 2:00:32 AM  

jon787: I can't believe places shipping and receiving freight are such big asshats that a law had to be written in order to force them to share their bathrooms with truckers.


Grocery warehouses are worse than jails. I'm not exaggerating.
 
Russ1642
2022-12-17 2:08:50 AM  
I assumed this was already a thing. Why would you do business with a company that didn't let you use the farking bathroom?
 
Skyfrog
2022-12-17 2:09:22 AM  

Wireless Joe: I thought it was less about not having a place to use the bathroom, and more about not being allowed to take the time to stop to use the bathroom?


I believe that was Amazon delivery drivers, not truckers.
 
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