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(WKRN Nashville)   Worker finds "adult male human heart" in salt pile at TN Department of Transportation facility. Who knew human hearts had male genitalia?   (wkrn.com) divider line
    More: Weird, Police, Constable, Coroner, Sheriff Chris Davis, United States, human heart, Sheriff, salt pile  
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2022-12-16 1:35:44 PM  
The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.
 
2022-12-16 1:45:22 PM  
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2022-12-16 1:49:44 PM  

Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.


Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.
 
2022-12-16 1:51:24 PM  
He knew, deep down, that it was sincere.
 
2022-12-16 1:52:48 PM  
That awkward moment when you accidentally fill the transport cooler with the wrong bucket....
 
2022-12-16 1:53:11 PM  
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2022-12-16 1:56:56 PM  
More surprising when male genitalia have a heart.
 
2022-12-16 1:57:41 PM  
Tennessee?  That's weird.  Could've sworn I left my heart in San Francisco.
 
2022-12-16 2:01:45 PM  
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What?
 
2022-12-16 2:02:12 PM  
They knew it was a male heart after they placed it next to a crying baby and the TV in the room switched to ESPN and the volume increased.
 
2022-12-16 2:02:21 PM  
I'm more shocked that Tennessee use road salt.
 
2022-12-16 2:02:45 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


Or they know whose it is
 
2022-12-16 2:03:03 PM  
He noticed it wasn't made of iron. Just kidding, honey. Ummm I have to go.
 
2022-12-16 2:03:11 PM  
FTFA:

"Sheriff Davis said the heart was sent to the Medical Examiner's Office in Nashville. "I do want to reiterate that it was an adult male.""

And, yes there are differences between adult heart tissue by gender . From PubMed:

"It is seen that after puberty there is a 15-30% increase in the heart mass in males which is proportionate to the body size. Thus the male myocyte undergoes a greater degree of hypertrophy when compared to female. 

...

The average adult male heart rate is between 70 and 72 beats per minute, while the average for adult women is between 78 and 82 beats. This difference is largely accounted for by the size of the heart, which is typically smaller in females than males. The smaller female heart, pumping less blood with each beat, needs to beat at a faster rate to match the larger male heart's output"
 
2022-12-16 2:04:06 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I'm more shocked that Tennessee use road salt.


Eastern Tennessee is in the Appalachians. They get a fair amount of winter weather.
 
2022-12-16 2:06:12 PM  
It had a throbbing heart-on?
 
2022-12-16 2:07:34 PM  

BorgiaGinz: And, yes there are differences between adult heart tissue by gender . From PubMed:


Be that as it may, can you tell a disembodied male vs. female heart without karyotyping? (Or PCR.)
 
2022-12-16 2:11:23 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


There might be anatomical differences
https://www.cardofmich.com/men-women-heart-differences/
 
2022-12-16 2:16:11 PM  
Aorta find out whose it is.
 
2022-12-16 2:16:43 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


Barring disease, I believe male hearts are also larger and a coroner might be able to make a determination based on that factor.
 
2022-12-16 2:17:24 PM  
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2022-12-16 2:18:04 PM  

spongeboob: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

There might be anatomical differences
https://www.cardofmich.com/men-women-heart-differences/


From that link...

"The differences between men and women are usually abundantly clear, but not always."

You can say that again.
 
2022-12-16 2:20:02 PM  

Unsung_Hero: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

Barring disease, I believe male hearts are also larger and a coroner might be able to make a determination based on that factor.


Nah, no boob artery.
 
2022-12-16 2:22:39 PM  
It's a Sicilian message.  It means all that salt you add to your food will eventually kill you.
 
2022-12-16 2:37:53 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: drjekel_mrhyde: I'm more shocked that Tennessee use road salt.

Eastern Tennessee is in the Appalachians. They get a fair amount of winter weather.


Can confirm. Here in the high elevations we're looking at single digits and snow showers next week.

/this has been your fark weather forecast
 
2022-12-16 2:39:54 PM  
Subby's clearly never heard of a cockle
 
2022-12-16 2:46:38 PM  

Tom-Servo: spongeboob: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

There might be anatomical differences
https://www.cardofmich.com/men-women-heart-differences/

From that link...

"The differences between men and women are usually abundantly clear, but not always."

You can say that again.


A lot of people don't realize it, but there's a vas deferens.

/wait, that's nuts!
 
2022-12-16 2:51:26 PM  
So someone was using a time tested method of preserving meat. Big deal.
 
2022-12-16 2:51:49 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


I believe they would have done DNA analysis, likely by PCR, for male specific genes, like SRY. They may have been able to check for Barr bodies, which are almost exclusively found in females, but im not sure if the desicated statenof the tissue would allow that.

It's almost certainly a male heart. Still, there's  a very, very, small chance that the former owner had a disorder like complete androgen insensitivity syndrome or a complete loss of function of a gene in the male development pathway like SRY, where they have a Y chromosome but are phenotypically male. Extreme long shot, but technically possible. In this case the old adage "when you hear hoofbeats you think horses not zebras" applies.

A karyotype, where you get a pretty picture of all the chromosomes, requires actively dividing cells (chromosomes aren't condensed like that except during cell division), so in this case that's impossible because the heart was preserved in salt to the point of dehydration according to the article. Likewise rtPCR analysis of sex specific gene expression wouldn't be possible for the same reason.

/This would have made a good exam question.
 
2022-12-16 2:53:28 PM  
They could tell it was a man because it was found next to a lifted toilet seat
 
2022-12-16 2:55:54 PM  

Loucifer: He noticed it wasn't made of iron. Just kidding, honey. Ummm I have to go.


AND A GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
/bulk of the series
 
2022-12-16 3:00:00 PM  

hobnail: Tom-Servo: spongeboob: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

There might be anatomical differences
https://www.cardofmich.com/men-women-heart-differences/

From that link...

"The differences between men and women are usually abundantly clear, but not always."

You can say that again.

A lot of people don't realize it, but there's a vas deferens.

/wait, that's nuts!


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2022-12-16 3:03:02 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


Plus the size is an indicator. Men's hearts are generally larger than women's.
 
2022-12-16 3:05:54 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


I didn't know that was a simple test.
 
2022-12-16 3:07:47 PM  

PhoenixFarker: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

Plus the size is an indicator. Men's hearts are generally larger than women's.


YEs, but mine would be conclusive.  "I can definitely say X" is always better than "I think it is X because of probability".  I would assume they would preliminarily classify it as male based upon gross physiology, and then do a DNA test to rule out the female outliers
 
2022-12-16 3:08:27 PM  
There was no indication of ice so it must be a male heart.
 
2022-12-16 3:09:46 PM  

Lambskincoat: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

I didn't know that was a simple test.


We can tell you how many Ashkenazi Jewish women from the southwestern corner of Belarus are in your ancestry almost to the individual woman.  Compared to that, seeing if you have a dangle or not is simple.
 
2022-12-16 3:11:09 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: Aorta find out whose it is.



You Done Stompt on My Heart
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2022-12-16 3:11:15 PM  
They found the heart's twitter bio? Cuz that's the only way to know for sure.
 
2022-12-16 3:14:43 PM  

BorgiaGinz: FTFA:

"Sheriff Davis said the heart was sent to the Medical Examiner's Office in Nashville. "I do want to reiterate that it was an adult male.""

And, yes there are differences between adult heart tissue by gender . From PubMed:

"It is seen that after puberty there is a 15-30% increase in the heart mass in males which is proportionate to the body size. Thus the male myocyte undergoes a greater degree of hypertrophy when compared to female. 

...

The average adult male heart rate is between 70 and 72 beats per minute, while the average for adult women is between 78 and 82 beats. This difference is largely accounted for by the size of the heart, which is typically smaller in females than males. The smaller female heart, pumping less blood with each beat, needs to beat at a faster rate to match the larger male heart's output"


Those differences would be minuscule, one would have to see many hearts to be able to distinguish, the caveat of 'barring disease' is also not a small thing, as many people are walking around with varying degrees, and types of heart diseases and failure, all of which can affect the size of a male or female heart.
 
2022-12-16 3:31:30 PM  
Heart buried in salt? Somebody really didn't want that demon respawned.
 
2022-12-16 3:33:16 PM  

Lambskincoat: BorgiaGinz: FTFA:

"Sheriff Davis said the heart was sent to the Medical Examiner's Office in Nashville. "I do want to reiterate that it was an adult male.""

And, yes there are differences between adult heart tissue by gender . From PubMed:

"It is seen that after puberty there is a 15-30% increase in the heart mass in males which is proportionate to the body size. Thus the male myocyte undergoes a greater degree of hypertrophy when compared to female. 

...

The average adult male heart rate is between 70 and 72 beats per minute, while the average for adult women is between 78 and 82 beats. This difference is largely accounted for by the size of the heart, which is typically smaller in females than males. The smaller female heart, pumping less blood with each beat, needs to beat at a faster rate to match the larger male heart's output"

Those differences would be minuscule, one would have to see many hearts to be able to distinguish, the caveat of 'barring disease' is also not a small thing, as many people are walking around with varying degrees, and types of heart diseases and failure, all of which can affect the size of a male or female heart.


How did the tell?

It was...

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2022-12-16 3:35:24 PM  
Maybe the heart belonged to a farker. We'll have to wait til later to find out.
 
2022-12-16 3:36:50 PM  
So, no one had the heart to ask for the preferred pronoun?
 
2022-12-16 3:37:24 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


Female red blood cells have little knobs on them. Male red blood cells don't. A simple microscope examination is enough to determine the sex.
 
2022-12-16 3:45:53 PM  

Goimir: phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.

Or they know whose it is


Someone showed up to the Lost-n-Found, "Um, you're probably not going to believe this, but..."
 
2022-12-16 3:47:42 PM  

phalamir: Lambskincoat: The only way they could guess that, is if a dismembered Johnson was also found on the scene.

Or they did a simple DNA test to check the sex chromosome.


And they still assumed the heart's gender.  I'm calling HR.
 
2022-12-16 3:55:18 PM  
Weird. I tried to verify my claim that females' red blood cells are different from males'. That's something I learned in 7th-grade biology (1977). I even saw photos. As I recall, a small percent of red blood cells in females have a little knob on them. It's visible under any decent microscope.

I can't find anything on Google about that. Either I was miseducated, or the internet forgot something.
 
2022-12-16 4:23:37 PM  
Subby seems confounded that there are physical differences between male and female anatomy besides genitalia.
 
2022-12-16 4:45:55 PM  

Gleeman: Heart buried in salt? Somebody really didn't want that demon respawned.


I came to say something similar, although historically salt burial of vital organs is a ritual used for, and on, bad witches and/or sorcerers. Supposedly, the salt will kill all trace of the spirit, and thus prevent the regeneration of the body from its (clearly) disparate parts.
 
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