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(ESPN)   In latest breakup news, Rodon moves from San Francisco to New York, possibly to be as far from Godzilla as possible   (espn.com) divider line
    More: Scary, New York Yankees, Left-handed starter Carlos Rodon, Major League Baseball, Cleveland Indians, Boston Red Sox, San Francisco Giants, Chicago White Sox, World Series  
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2022-12-16 2:23:01 AM  
SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.
 
2022-12-16 2:32:51 AM  
NL west became better.
 
2022-12-16 3:02:05 AM  
And the Giants also just lost out on Judge which the locals here were saying was a done deal. Psych! Fools. Sports dudes were befuddled again.

/ Pinstripes ( money ) talks.
 
2022-12-16 5:11:13 AM  

Crocoduck: SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.


Oh its more than that, they stuck the yanks with someone who will collapse because of the vast difference in the right field wall....both its distance and its sudden lack of wind blowing infield going from one of the top pitchers parks to one of the top hitters parks
 
2022-12-16 7:51:24 AM  

Concrete Donkey: Crocoduck: SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.

Oh its more than that, they stuck the yanks with someone who will collapse because of the vast difference in the right field wall....both its distance and its sudden lack of wind blowing infield going from one of the top pitchers parks to one of the top hitters parks


Yankee Stadium is 14th in total park factor (0.991 basically neutral, edge to pitcher) and 15th in home runs (1.015, neutral, edge to hitters. For every cheapie that goes out in right, just as many die in center that'd be out in other parks).
PacBellSBCAT&TOracle is 18th (0.968, very slightly pitcher friendly) and 28th (0.721, clearly homer-hating) respectively.

People just LOVE to perpetuate the myth that Yankee Stadium is hiatters heaven when its literally middle of the pack.
 
2022-12-16 8:54:23 AM  

The Bestest: Concrete Donkey: Crocoduck: SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.

Oh its more than that, they stuck the yanks with someone who will collapse because of the vast difference in the right field wall....both its distance and its sudden lack of wind blowing infield going from one of the top pitchers parks to one of the top hitters parks

Yankee Stadium is 14th in total park factor (0.991 basically neutral, edge to pitcher) and 15th in home runs (1.015, neutral, edge to hitters. For every cheapie that goes out in right, just as many die in center that'd be out in other parks).
PacBellSBCAT&TOracle is 18th (0.968, very slightly pitcher friendly) and 28th (0.721, clearly homer-hating) respectively.

People just LOVE to perpetuate the myth that Yankee Stadium is hiatters heaven when its literally middle of the pack.


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2022-12-16 9:02:23 AM  
Hope he enjoys Yankees elimination day '03!
 
2022-12-16 9:31:30 AM  

Concrete Donkey: [blog.fanatics.com image 685x1500]


The only reason Citizen's Bank is so low on that list is because until this year, the vast majority of the Phillies lineup was lucky to get the ball out of the infield.
 
2022-12-16 9:32:11 AM  

Concrete Donkey: The Bestest: Concrete Donkey: Crocoduck: SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.

Oh its more than that, they stuck the yanks with someone who will collapse because of the vast difference in the right field wall....both its distance and its sudden lack of wind blowing infield going from one of the top pitchers parks to one of the top hitters parks

Yankee Stadium is 14th in total park factor (0.991 basically neutral, edge to pitcher) and 15th in home runs (1.015, neutral, edge to hitters. For every cheapie that goes out in right, just as many die in center that'd be out in other parks).
PacBellSBCAT&TOracle is 18th (0.968, very slightly pitcher friendly) and 28th (0.721, clearly homer-hating) respectively.

People just LOVE to perpetuate the myth that Yankee Stadium is hiatters heaven when its literally middle of the pack.

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STOP THE PRESSES!
You mean to tell me.. that the home team.. who would build their lineup specifically to take advantage of their home park.. would be able to take advantage of their home park?

What does that have to do with overall park factor (which takes both home and visitor into account) or better yet, what does that have ANY thing to do with the home pitcher, what this thread is ostensibly about?
 
2022-12-16 9:35:16 AM  

Joe_diGriz: Concrete Donkey: [blog.fanatics.com image 685x1500]

The only reason Citizen's Bank is so low on that list is because until this year, the vast majority of the Phillies lineup was lucky to get the ball out of the infield.


That's the other thing.. that chart has more to do with each team's lineup than the parks.
 
2022-12-16 9:39:38 AM  

The Bestest: Joe_diGriz: Concrete Donkey: [blog.fanatics.com image 685x1500]

The only reason Citizen's Bank is so low on that list is because until this year, the vast majority of the Phillies lineup was lucky to get the ball out of the infield.

That's the other thing.. that chart has more to do with each team's lineup than the parks.


He says with a completely straight face with two of the worst teams in the MLB on the top two spots
 
2022-12-16 9:46:46 AM  

Concrete Donkey: The Bestest: Joe_diGriz: Concrete Donkey: [blog.fanatics.com image 685x1500]

The only reason Citizen's Bank is so low on that list is because until this year, the vast majority of the Phillies lineup was lucky to get the ball out of the infield.

That's the other thing.. that chart has more to do with each team's lineup than the parks.

He says with a completely straight face with two of the worst teams in the MLB on the top two spots


I say it with a straight face because its a garbage chart with a garbage premise that you can't really glean anything from. All this chart shows you is how well the home team tailored their lineup to their home park, and not about the park itself. A -visitor- chart would be -slightly- more telling about the park itself.

..but again, this thread is about a pitcher.. pitching for the Yankees.. home homers has absolutely nothing to do with that.

If you want to see actual park factors, ESPN, fangraphs, statcast, baseball-reference, a dozen others all publish them. Take your pick.
 
2022-12-16 9:56:20 AM  

The Bestest: ..but again, this thread is about a pitcher.. pitching for the Yankees.. home homers has absolutely nothing to do with that.


He's going to be pitching at Yankee stadium more often than any other specific park. Unless the analytics freaks go full tilt and have a separate rotation for home vs away. I know the Dodgers might push a start so somebody coming back from injury doesn't have to pitch at Coors Field.
 
2022-12-16 10:07:04 AM  

Trocadero: He's going to be pitching at Yankee stadium more often than any other specific park.


Right.. so what does that have to do with how many homers the -Yankees- hiat at Yankee Stadium?
My whole point was that visiting teams hiat homers in Yankee Stadium at about the same rate as they do in the average park, and fewer overall hits in Yankee Stadium than average. Yes, they hit far fewer in Oracle, but in terms of overall hits they're not that far apart.

..so unless Rodon's bugaboo is the longball specifically, it shouldn't be much of an adjustment for him.
 
2022-12-16 11:12:22 AM  
so is he gonna go for the creeper mustache to just shave off completely and look like a tool?
 
2022-12-16 11:26:14 AM  
The Yankees stumbled into the playoffs last year with an uncharacteristically shaky defense and with a six-pack of ice cold power hitters. I'm not convinced that any one player is enough to stem the rising tide of very young, unexpectedly talented Baltimore Orioles team, much less a very young, supremely talented Toronto Blue Jays team.
 
2022-12-16 11:33:13 AM  
What Rodin in SF might look like:
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2022-12-16 11:39:10 AM  

ElFugawz: What Rodin in SF might look like:
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should've signed rodan to terrorize the league
 
2022-12-16 1:30:50 PM  

The Bestest: Concrete Donkey: Crocoduck: SF stuck the Yanks with an aging Goliath and a Lefty with shoulder problems.  If there's one thing History proves it's that gigantic guys never become high strike out, creaky, low output guys and lefties with long-term shoulder problems pitch just like you want them to without exception.

Oh its more than that, they stuck the yanks with someone who will collapse because of the vast difference in the right field wall....both its distance and its sudden lack of wind blowing infield going from one of the top pitchers parks to one of the top hitters parks

Yankee Stadium is 14th in total park factor (0.991 basically neutral, edge to pitcher) and 15th in home runs (1.015, neutral, edge to hitters. For every cheapie that goes out in right, just as many die in center that'd be out in other parks).
PacBellSBCAT&TOracle is 18th (0.968, very slightly pitcher friendly) and 28th (0.721, clearly homer-hating) respectively.

People just LOVE to perpetuate the myth that Yankee Stadium is hiatters heaven when its literally middle of the pack.


Well they did catch mlb using a tighter wound ball at Yankees games this season.  It should have been a huge deal but it's mlb so the story died.
 
2022-12-16 1:55:42 PM  

The Bestest: Trocadero: He's going to be pitching at Yankee stadium more often than any other specific park.

Right.. so what does that have to do with how many homers the -Yankees- hiat at Yankee Stadium?
My whole point was that visiting teams hiat homers in Yankee Stadium at about the same rate as they do in the average park, and fewer overall hits in Yankee Stadium than average. Yes, they hit far fewer in Oracle, but in terms of overall hits they're not that far apart.

..so unless Rodon's bugaboo is the longball specifically, it shouldn't be much of an adjustment for him.


It only applies to lefties in that stadium so it's not obvious in the overall numbers.  No numbers are needed though, you can look at the extremely short porch out there and some of the fly balls that go out.
 
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