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scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 8:23:26 PM  
I thought we had a rare repeat with almost the exact same headline, but subby played this well.

Elon is scared and pissed. Unfortunately he's also the riche-ohh, not that either, probably helping fuel said scary pissing. Still rich enough to break the toybox because he doesn't give a shiat.
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 8:26:10 PM  
I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:32:06 PM  
Allowing someone to post about where his jet is would be my guess
 
bloobeary [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:40:19 PM  
As soon as Tesla throws him to the curb, their account's gonna get heel stomped too.

Bet.

/Chief Jester
 
MrHormel [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:41:08 PM  
Penile warts?
 
dumbobruni
2022-12-15 8:43:49 PM  
And several journalists

https://mobile.twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1603551884748460034
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:47:37 PM  

bloobeary: As soon as Tesla throws him to the curb, their account's gonna get heel stomped too.

Bet.


He's not that dumb. Even if they kick Tesla, he's still financially dependent on it

/Be that as it may, still may it be as it may be
 
MrHormel [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:50:17 PM  
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Omnivorous [BareFark]
2022-12-15 8:52:40 PM  
Analysts have been tracking corporate jets for years and it won't stop because of Emo Musk's tantrum.  It was famously used to anticipate acquisition targets for GE, even 20 years ago.  So the guy banned my Mr. MYFreeSpeech simply goes to Facebook or a blog.
 
ChiliBoots
2022-12-15 8:56:09 PM  

Gubbo: bloobeary: As soon as Tesla throws him to the curb, their account's gonna get heel stomped too.

Bet.

He's not that dumb. Even if they kick Tesla, he's still financially dependent on it


/narrator loosens his tie and clears his throat
 
Mikey1969 [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:57:21 PM  
To be fair, it really seems odd to allow an account that exists solely to make you leave Twitter. I'm surprised these weren't the first to go. The rest of the shiat is him being petty, but I'm more surprised that they existed in the first place. I mean, a newspaper isn't going to run a full page ad bashijngbtheir own paper in favor of a competitor.
 
jso2897 [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 8:58:18 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.
 
Mikey1969 [OhFark]
2022-12-15 8:58:30 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


They aren't learning shiat. They think they can pass laws to force these companies to cater to them.
 
jso2897 [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:01:39 PM  

Mikey1969: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

They aren't learning shiat. They think they can pass laws to force these companies to cater to them.


You can't pass a law to force a company to be profitable. And I doubt you could pass a law forcing people to buy ads from companies that they don't like.
 
Mikey1969 [OhFark]
2022-12-15 9:05:21 PM  

jso2897: Mikey1969: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

They aren't learning shiat. They think they can pass laws to force these companies to cater to them.

You can't pass a law to force a company to be profitable. And I doubt you could pass a law forcing people to buy ads from companies that they don't like.


I didn't say they COULD. I just said they THINK they can. 😁

/flapdoodle!
 
Znuh [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 9:10:35 PM  
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jso2897 [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:12:09 PM  

Mikey1969: jso2897: Mikey1969: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

They aren't learning shiat. They think they can pass laws to force these companies to cater to them.

You can't pass a law to force a company to be profitable. And I doubt you could pass a law forcing people to buy ads from companies that they don't like.

I didn't say they COULD. I just said they THINK they can. 😁


"They"?
They who?
I don't think that, and don't know anyone offhand who does, so I just wondered who you were talking about.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2022-12-15 9:15:38 PM  

Mikey1969: To be fair, it really seems odd to allow an account that exists solely to make you leave Twitter. I'm surprised these weren't the first to go. The rest of the shiat is him being petty, but I'm more surprised that they existed in the first place. I mean, a newspaper isn't going to run a full page ad bashijngbtheir own paper in favor of a competitor.


Except if you claim to be a free speech advocate, like Elon, you absolutely should allow such things.

/graduate of Microwave Cooking For One school
 
Alaskan Yoda [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:20:10 PM  

Omnivorous: Analysts have been tracking corporate jets for years and it won't stop because of Emo Musk's tantrum.  It was famously used to anticipate acquisition targets for GE, even 20 years ago.  So the guy banned my Mr. MYFreeSpeech simply goes to Facebook or a blog.


It'd be hysterical if Mastadon and all Other social media places started posting it there.
 
Rage Against the Thorazine [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:21:39 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


And I think Elon is going to learn a very hard lesson on how people and corporations aren't obligated to use Twitter.
 
Alaskan Yoda [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:24:19 PM  

jso2897: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.


Why? Twitter is getting lots of press. Even this place posts multiple links hourly from Twitter and hourly threads on Musk.

More people are signing up for Twitter. I don't necessarily believe that propaganda; most are probably bots.

But still, there is a metric ton of breathless reporting on that place.

Protip: ignoring works. But sadly, just like when people are advised to ignore users here, teeth get bucked with "ignoring is for the weak!"

It is what it is.
 
Alaskan Yoda [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:25:53 PM  

Rage Against the Thorazine: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And I think Elon is going to learn a very hard lesson on how people and corporations aren't obligated to use Twitter.


And yet all the big names corporations that clutched their pearls and left after Jan 6 are back.
 
jso2897 [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 9:36:16 PM  

Alaskan Yoda: jso2897: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.

Why? Twitter is getting lots of press. Even this place posts multiple links hourly from Twitter and hourly threads on Musk.

More people are signing up for Twitter. I don't necessarily believe that propaganda; most are probably bots.

But still, there is a metric ton of breathless reporting on that place.

Protip: ignoring works. But sadly, just like when people are advised to ignore users here, teeth get bucked with "ignoring is for the weak!"

It is what it is.


Uh...............................okay.
 
pirviii
2022-12-15 9:46:23 PM  
Pretty soon, Twitter will be nothing but bots chatting with each other.
 
Watubi
2022-12-15 9:51:54 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


Elmo certainly things Apple and Google are obligated to keep Twitter in their app stores.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut [BareFark]
2022-12-15 10:21:13 PM  

jso2897: Alaskan Yoda: jso2897: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.

Why? Twitter is getting lots of press. Even this place posts multiple links hourly from Twitter and hourly threads on Musk.

More people are signing up for Twitter. I don't necessarily believe that propaganda; most are probably bots.

But still, there is a metric ton of breathless reporting on that place.

Protip: ignoring works. But sadly, just like when people are advised to ignore users here, teeth get bucked with "ignoring is for the weak!"

It is what it is.

Uh...............................okay.


Heh - mostly the idea is "Ignoring reduces the lulz at stoopid potential"

/otherwise I'd have way more people ignoring me I mean 'cmon
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 10:38:55 PM  

Watubi: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

Elmo certainly things Apple and Google are obligated to keep Twitter in their app stores.


They aren't. But I think he forgets his app is technically a website
 
jso2897 [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 10:43:56 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: jso2897: Alaskan Yoda: jso2897: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.

Why? Twitter is getting lots of press. Even this place posts multiple links hourly from Twitter and hourly threads on Musk.

More people are signing up for Twitter. I don't necessarily believe that propaganda; most are probably bots.

But still, there is a metric ton of breathless reporting on that place.

Protip: ignoring works. But sadly, just like when people are advised to ignore users here, teeth get bucked with "ignoring is for the weak!"

It is what it is.

Uh...............................okay.

Heh - mostly the idea is "Ignoring reduces the lulz at stoopid potential"

/otherwise I'd have way more people ignoring me I mean 'cmon


Again.....okay.
 
Unsung_Hero
2022-12-15 10:44:18 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


I see no reason why 'Twitter' shouldn't be like email.  Put a 'twt' record in your domain DNS, have a tweet server, host your own damn tweets and link to any other tweet server you like.   If you don't want to host your own... you can always pay someone else.  Or use a free service.

/just like email
 
Decorus
2022-12-15 10:45:42 PM  

Gubbo: bloobeary: As soon as Tesla throws him to the curb, their account's gonna get heel stomped too.

Bet.

He's not that dumb. Even if they kick Tesla, he's still financially dependent on it


Elon will sell all his stock at once if they kick him out of being CEO in an effort to damage Tesla while shorting it.
Remember he's a Karen.
 
firefly212
2022-12-15 10:50:22 PM  

question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.


I think we all knew this was coming and only morons ever thought Elon was the free speech absolutist he pretrns to be. Twiiter allows nazis because apartheid-Karen agrees with them, the ban journalists because he doesn't.
 
firefly212
2022-12-15 10:50:57 PM  

Gubbo: Allowing someone to post about where his jet is would be my guess


he's banned like 20 main stream journalists today.

/successfully counted to infinity twice
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut [BareFark]
2022-12-15 10:53:26 PM  

jso2897: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: jso2897: Alaskan Yoda: jso2897: question_dj: I think a lot of people are learning a very hard lesson on how a corporations aren't obligated to provide services to them.

And it's not unusual for corporations to learn very hard lessons on how people are not obligated to purchase their goods and services.
I think a number of lessons are about to be learned here.

Why? Twitter is getting lots of press. Even this place posts multiple links hourly from Twitter and hourly threads on Musk.

More people are signing up for Twitter. I don't necessarily believe that propaganda; most are probably bots.

But still, there is a metric ton of breathless reporting on that place.

Protip: ignoring works. But sadly, just like when people are advised to ignore users here, teeth get bucked with "ignoring is for the weak!"

It is what it is.

Uh...............................okay.

Heh - mostly the idea is "Ignoring reduces the lulz at stoopid potential"

/otherwise I'd have way more people ignoring me I mean 'cmon

Again.....okay.


Okay then
 
Stud Gerbil
2022-12-15 10:59:28 PM  
Fleeing twitter for another server is missing the whole point.   It's giving up.   Just stay, for free.  Block the morons and keep your voice where it has always been.
 
Apophenia [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-15 11:02:51 PM  
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Jeebus Saves
2022-12-15 11:04:01 PM  
Remember when everyone wanted to put deciding truth in the hands of companies like FB and Twitter?  And wise people said that billionaires with an agenda are not the people we want deciding what truth was?  It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.
 
Mrtraveler01
2022-12-15 11:04:36 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Fleeing twitter for another server is missing the whole point.   It's giving up.   Just stay, for free.  Block the morons and keep your voice where it has always been.


I just shiatpost the right-wing Twitter accounts.

The bad thing is now the algorithm thinks I'm a Trumper.
 
Mrtraveler01
2022-12-15 11:05:14 PM  

Jeebus Saves: It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.


So like Fark then?
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-12-15 11:05:17 PM  

firefly212: Gubbo: Allowing someone to post about where his jet is would be my guess

he's banned like 20 main stream journalists today.


Mainstream like twitter journalists, or mainstream like Fox?
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-12-15 11:06:20 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Jeebus Saves: It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.

So like Fark then?


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OptionC [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 11:06:32 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Remember when everyone wanted to put deciding truth in the hands of companies like FB and Twitter?  And wise people said that billionaires with an agenda are not the people we want deciding what truth was?  It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.


???

I think companies should allow or disallow whatever and whoever they damn well please.  I would highly recommend that they disallow disinformation and assholes, but that's merely a suggestion for the kind of site I would like to visit.
 
cefm
2022-12-15 11:06:37 PM  
Ya know, it's not much more of this before twatter stops being seen as a global public forum and just the PR page of one twat.
 
Mrtraveler01
2022-12-15 11:06:46 PM  

Jeebus Saves: firefly212: Gubbo: Allowing someone to post about where his jet is would be my guess

he's banned like 20 main stream journalists today.

Mainstream like twitter journalists, or mainstream like Fox?


No. Actual legitimate sources like Voice of America.
 
Mrtraveler01
2022-12-15 11:07:20 PM  

cefm: Ya know, it's not much more of this before twatter stops being seen as a global public forum and just the PR page of one twat.


I think that's happening already.
 
The Exit Stencilist
2022-12-15 11:20:18 PM  
I think every Twitter user now has a sacred duty to post updates on the location of Musk's plane
 
quantsuff
2022-12-15 11:21:19 PM  
Come back to this thread and discover some shiatposter who thought that the libs were getting owned just got elon musked by the fark mods.

In the meantime mastadon is experiencing an uptick in new users.

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Jeebus Saves
2022-12-15 11:31:22 PM  

OptionC: Jeebus Saves: Remember when everyone wanted to put deciding truth in the hands of companies like FB and Twitter?  And wise people said that billionaires with an agenda are not the people we want deciding what truth was?  It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.

???

I think companies should allow or disallow whatever and whoever they damn well please.  I would highly recommend that they disallow disinformation and assholes, but that's merely a suggestion for the kind of site I would like to visit.


Like I said, you want someone like Elon deciding what disinformation is.  And who an asshole is.  It's almost like you cant comprehend that your definition of things isn't what another persons is.  The picture child of "no, not like that!"
 
OptionC [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 11:39:43 PM  

Jeebus Saves: OptionC: Jeebus Saves: Remember when everyone wanted to put deciding truth in the hands of companies like FB and Twitter?  And wise people said that billionaires with an agenda are not the people we want deciding what truth was?  It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.

???

I think companies should allow or disallow whatever and whoever they damn well please.  I would highly recommend that they disallow disinformation and assholes, but that's merely a suggestion for the kind of site I would like to visit.

Like I said, you want someone like Elon deciding what disinformation is.  And who an asshole is.  It's almost like you cant comprehend that your definition of things isn't what another persons is.  The picture child of "no, not like that!"


Ummm... no, that is not what I said.

Try reading it again, but slowly.
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-12-15 11:45:23 PM  

OptionC: Jeebus Saves: OptionC: Jeebus Saves: Remember when everyone wanted to put deciding truth in the hands of companies like FB and Twitter?  And wise people said that billionaires with an agenda are not the people we want deciding what truth was?  It would be like fark being run by a drunk with delusions of grandeur deciding what was and wasn't funny.

???

I think companies should allow or disallow whatever and whoever they damn well please.  I would highly recommend that they disallow disinformation and assholes, but that's merely a suggestion for the kind of site I would like to visit.

Like I said, you want someone like Elon deciding what disinformation is.  And who an asshole is.  It's almost like you cant comprehend that your definition of things isn't what another persons is.  The picture child of "no, not like that!"

Ummm... no, that is not what I said.

Try reading it again, but slowly.


I read it.  You highly recommend they disallow disinformation and assholes.  Who those people are are up to the whim of a billionaire.  Right now, Musk is showing a lot of people the door.
 
OptionC [TotalFark]
2022-12-15 11:54:08 PM  

Jeebus Saves: I read it.  You highly recommend they disallow disinformation and assholes.  Who those people are are up to the whim of a billionaire.  Right now, Musk is showing a lot of people the door.


Yes, it's his company.  He gets to make the rules.  🤷

If I disagree with his decisions, I can go elsewhere (and I did, almost immediately).  That's how freedom of speech and freedom of association actually work.

Nobody is owed a platform, nobody is required to publish.  If you don't want someone on your platform, ban them.  If you don't like being part of a platform, leave.  If you don't want to advertise on a platform, don't advertise on it.

Objective truth exists outside this paradigm - it just is.

/Do you think aliens like tacos as much as we do?
 
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