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		Microsoft argues to the FTC that its deal to acquire Activision is fair because Sony has way more exclusive games than they do which makes them big meanies and that's not fair (ign.com)		55
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xalres

2022-12-14 1:09:37 PM

They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

NewportBarGuy

2022-12-14 1:15:04 PM

I don't even know why they blocked this buyout... it's stupid.

I don't like mega-large corporations, but this one? This seems like a really stupid one to pick.

TheYeti

2022-12-14 1:17:21 PM

The FTC is really doing a bang up job these days. High quality stuff.

Explodo

2022-12-14 1:19:06 PM

Lots of people have a grudge against MS so they get singled out for enforcement.

There's should really be a lot more enforcement against merging across the board, but there's not, so singling out MS is unfair.

Myk-House of El

2022-12-14 1:22:22 PM

I'm hoping they approach the SafewayKroger merger with as much or more suspicion.

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs

2022-12-14 1:31:07 PM

Explodo: Lots of people have a grudge against MS so they get singled out for enforcement.

There's should really be a lot more enforcement against merging across the board, but there's not, so singling out MS is unfair.

But officer, other people were speeding too so I shouldn't get a ticket.

DayeOfJustice

2022-12-14 1:32:48 PM

xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

basscomm

2022-12-14 1:33:33 PM

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

The Bestest

2022-12-14 1:36:27 PM

DayeOfJustice: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

Microsoft as a whole is not that much bigger than Sony as a whole, if you want to use that argument.
If you want to argue MS is leveraging other divisions' assets to help its game division, Sony does the same, including owning one of the Big Five movie studios.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 1:40:35 PM

basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

misanthropicsob

2022-12-14 1:41:28 PM

NewportBarGuy: I don't even know why they blocked this buyout... it's stupid.

I don't like mega-large corporations, but this one? This seems like a really stupid one to pick.

Microsoft already has a shiatton of game studios under its belt.

I'm glad they started blocking these buyouts, and you have to start somewhere. This shouldn't be the only buyout they block.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 1:41:55 PM

Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

grimlock1972

2022-12-14 1:43:36 PM

Just a Note they do not mention Nintendo which is not quite fair as they do control a slice of the Console market but it is also understandable as Nintendo's main operations are all in Japan as are it's Corporate offices.

Yes they have a US division and division for other regions but they would have no say so if Nintendo was to attempt a merger on this scale, say buying Capcom as some rumors used to suggest they might do and US regulators would have no veto on it as it would involve two Japanese companies.

Muta

2022-12-14 1:52:12 PM

Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

There are a finite number of possible birthdates. Just find out the birthday of the world's oldest person then work back from there.

Practical_Draconian

2022-12-14 1:55:04 PM

PS should just buy EA, there, you can exclude Madden and BioWare from Microsoft Boxes in tit for tat.

/EA not making NHL for the PC anyway, so IDGAF.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 2:05:03 PM

Muta: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

There are a finite number of possible birthdates. Just find out the birthday of the world's oldest person then work back from there.

I think we can narrow the search space and assume anyone over 60 and under 12 probably doesn't have their own playstation account

Noticeably F.A.T.

2022-12-14 2:09:21 PM

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

Herr Flick's Revenge

2022-12-14 2:09:59 PM

Yep.
I walked into a random Walmart and bought one a few weeks ago.
No reservation, no waiting list, no buying from a scalper.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 2:11:44 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

KingBiefWhistle

2022-12-14 2:12:49 PM

NewportBarGuy: I don't even know why they blocked this buyout... it's stupid.

I don't like mega-large corporations, but this one? This seems like a really stupid one to pick.

I get what you're saying but put me in the "They gotta farking start somewhere" camp, like holy shiat they've been asleep at the wheel for what feels like decades

xalres

2022-12-14 2:16:18 PM

basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hence the past tense. When I was in the market for a new console you couldn't find one for less than a $400 markup, so I got the Xbox X One X Series X: Part X: This Time, It's X, instead.

xalres

2022-12-14 2:18:28 PM

Then they should have said something that, and not "They're going to use their market share to do what we've been doing, only more!"

NuclearPenguins

2022-12-14 2:23:37 PM

Gubbo: Muta: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

There are a finite number of possible birthdates. Just find out the birthday of the world's oldest person then work back from there.

I think we can narrow the search space and assume anyone over 60 and under 12 probably doesn't have their own playstation account

My parents are 65 and have both PS and MS accounts.

Though they mostly play PC games.

DayeOfJustice

2022-12-14 2:26:52 PM

xalres: DayeOfJustice: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

Then they should have said something that, and not "They're going to use their market share to do what we've been doing, only more!"

I thought that was what the FTC is arguing, not Sony though. Not to mention, MS seems to be arguing that "Sony has exclusives too!" But MS isn't arguing that this Sony has a monopoly or too much control over the market. Greater market control and influence from Sony's end has to exist outside of exclusives for this argument to have sway I would think. MS might be able to argue that Sony's push for $70 games is a sign of market dominance. Maybe.

madgonad

2022-12-14 2:27:02 PM

The Bestest: Microsoft as a whole is not that much bigger than Sony as a whole, if you want to use that argument.

Microsoft's market cap is $1.9T.
Sony's is $100B.

So Microsoft is worth 19x what Sony is worth.

DoctorCal

2022-12-14 2:30:52 PM

Vertical integration, title exclusivity, and numerous other aspect of this are pretty complicated, and MS is going to focus its arguments on aspects that make the acquisition not appear anti-competitive. That said

Smith added that PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59. "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."

I don't understand what he means by this. Acquisition of AB will increase the number of exclusive titles on XBox by exactly one? Which title?

baron von doodle

2022-12-14 2:31:29 PM

Gubbo: Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

Nice to know that other people have had to do that.

You already have an account for this email.
No I don't.... Or do I?

Gubbo

2022-12-14 2:33:15 PM

baron von doodle: Gubbo: Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

Nice to know that other people have had to do that.

You already have an account for this email.
No I don't.... Or do I?

The curse of having firstname

lastname

liamg

com

Gubbo

2022-12-14 2:33:35 PM

NuclearPenguins: Gubbo: Muta: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

There are a finite number of possible birthdates. Just find out the birthday of the world's oldest person then work back from there.

I think we can narrow the search space and assume anyone over 60 and under 12 probably doesn't have their own playstation account

My parents are 65 and have both PS and MS accounts.

Though they mostly play PC games.

That was not a helpful comment to me

DayeOfJustice

2022-12-14 2:35:26 PM

The Bestest: DayeOfJustice: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

Microsoft as a whole is not that much bigger than Sony as a whole, if you want to use that argument.
If you want to argue MS is leveraging other divisions' assets to help its game division, Sony does the same, including owning one of the Big Five movie studios.

That's a fair argument (depending on how successful Sony pictures is. I thought it was failing a few years ago, but could be incorrect). Also, Sony is not as big as MS at least in market cap. Sony has a market cap of 100b or so and MS market cap is nearly 2 trillion. Sony cannot compete with the sheer market dominance of MS as a corporation.

SMB2811

2022-12-14 2:38:07 PM

Someone else used your own or you have a gmail account with a '.' in it?

NuclearPenguins

2022-12-14 2:38:42 PM

Gubbo: NuclearPenguins: Gubbo: Muta: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

There are a finite number of possible birthdates. Just find out the birthday of the world's oldest person then work back from there.

I think we can narrow the search space and assume anyone over 60 and under 12 probably doesn't have their own playstation account

My parents are 65 and have both PS and MS accounts.

Though they mostly play PC games.

That was not a helpful comment to me

Sir, this is Fark. No one here is helpful.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 2:39:25 PM

SMB2811: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Someone else used your own or you have a gmail account with a '.' in it?

No that should come to me as well.

firs

tname

lastname

liamg

com is the same email box from the perspective of google

Lumbar Puncture

2022-12-14 2:41:21 PM

DayeOfJustice: xalres: DayeOfJustice: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

Then they should have said something that, and not "They're going to use their market share to do what we've been doing, only more!"

I thought that was what the FTC is arguing, not Sony though. Not to mention, MS seems to be arguing that "Sony has exclusives too!" But MS isn't arguing that this Sony has a monopoly or too much control over the market. Greater market control and influence from Sony's end has to exist outside of exclusives for this argument to have sway I would think. MS might be able to argue that Sony's push for $70 games is a sign of market dominance. Maybe.

MS arguing that Sony has exclusives to is a good point by them because that's the main argument Sony is making, that it would be detrimental to the market for Microsoft to potentially make the highest selling game exclusive. Of course Sony does this often with third party studios as well, making arrangements for timed or completely console exclusive titles and currently still do, like with FFXVI. So it makes Sony's complaint ring hollow because they'd make the same move if they could afford to.

MS has been and is making the claim that Sony has too much control over the market, they've pointed out how Sony has sold several times more consoles than Microsoft has, how much influence over the market they currently control and how Sony is mostly doing what it's doing to prevent MS being an equal competitor.

But the FTC isn't wrong to make the attempt to due all the diligence for such a large merger. That's working as intended. Though I'm not sure how anyone can argue that Microsoft as owner will be worse for either consumers or workers than Bobby Kotick run Activision.

Lumbar Puncture

2022-12-14 2:44:49 PM

Can try sending something to support and tell them you no longer have the 2FA phone number and need to update that in order to be able to change your password.

G. Tarrant

2022-12-14 2:46:54 PM

DoctorCal: Vertical integration, title exclusivity, and numerous other aspect of this are pretty complicated, and MS is going to focus its arguments on aspects that make the acquisition not appear anti-competitive. That said

Smith added that PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59. "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."

I don't understand what he means by this. Acquisition of AB will increase the number of exclusive titles on XBox by exactly one? Which title?

Call of Duty is the title Sony has been complaining about.

It's actually kind of amazing. I worked for Activision doing email tech support when I was in graduate school for extra money. Back then, they published dozens of games a year. In 2001, Activision published 41 games. In 2022, they've published *one* - just Call of Duty (Blizzard not included in these numbers).

The sort of amusing thing is that for the last few years, Sony has been paying Activision incredible amounts of money for some exclusive Call of Duty access - it sometimes releases earlier on Sony consoles, the PS version has extra features, more game modes, etc. Xbox players have complained about this for years. Now Microsoft wants to buy Activision and is even willing to guarantee Call of Duty on PS platforms for a minimum of 10 years (but perhaps with Xbox extra features) and Sony is crying foul.

NateAsbestos

2022-12-14 2:48:12 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Gubbo: Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

Can try sending something to support and tell them you no longer have the 2FA phone number and need to update that in order to be able to change your password.

Support's probably going to ask for that birthdate too. At least if they don't entirely suck.

The benefits of having a vanity domain for my email: I can make an alias for anything

niamodym

com, and know nobody else's email is even close

xalres

2022-12-14 2:51:55 PM

Lumbar Puncture: DayeOfJustice: xalres: DayeOfJustice: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

Sony's exclusives aren't the equivalent of Microsoft's massive size and market power. Sony couldn't afford Activation if they wanted to and if MS was as small as they claim, they wouldn't have been able to afford it either. MS clearly used resources and weight from the entire company, not just the games division, to buy Activision. So their claim that Sony is actually bigger and more powerful doesn't hold up. It's like if some trillionaire uses the fact that you live on a beach as a sign that youre actually wealthier than them because none of their 10 houses are on a beach. Its silly. Context matters.

Then they should have said something that, and not "They're going to use their market share to do what we've been doing, only more!"

I thought that was what the FTC is arguing, not Sony though. Not to mention, MS seems to be arguing that "Sony has exclusives too!" But MS isn't arguing that this Sony has a monopoly or too much control over the market. Greater market control and influence from Sony's end has to exist outside of exclusives for this argument to have sway I would think. MS might be able to argue that Sony's push for $70 games is a sign of market dominance. Maybe.

MS arguing that Sony has exclusives to is a good point by them because that's the main argument Sony is making, that it would be detrimental to the market for Microsoft to potentially make the highest selling game exclusive. Of course Sony does this often with third party studios as well, making arrangements for timed or completely console exclusive titles and currently still do, like with FFXVI. So it makes Sony's complaint ring hollow because they'd make the same move if they could afford to.

This is the crux of it. Sony thinks it's unfair, not because MS is doing an anticompetition, which it is, but because they can't afford to do something similar with their current resources and darn it, it's just not FAIR!

And for all the folks tossing billions around talking about market cap, make sure you're comparing the game portions of the studios. I seriously doubt the XBox division has almost 2 trillion to throw around. Most of that is O365 and Azure.

chitownmike

2022-12-14 3:00:00 PM

As does Walmart, target...

Gubbo

2022-12-14 3:23:33 PM

I mean, that's a lot of work to go to if the end result is stealing someone else's account.

NewportBarGuy

2022-12-14 3:27:42 PM

KingBiefWhistle: NewportBarGuy: I don't even know why they blocked this buyout... it's stupid.

I don't like mega-large corporations, but this one? This seems like a really stupid one to pick.

I get what you're saying but put me in the "They gotta farking start somewhere" camp, like holy shiat they've been asleep at the wheel for what feels like decades

This, we 100% agree on. It just feel soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo late.

But fine. If we're going to make this a thing, I'm on board.

Only problem is, this will all stop if a Republican gets in the WH.

xalres

2022-12-14 3:34:16 PM

G. Tarrant: DoctorCal: Vertical integration, title exclusivity, and numerous other aspect of this are pretty complicated, and MS is going to focus its arguments on aspects that make the acquisition not appear anti-competitive. That said

Smith added that PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59. "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."

I don't understand what he means by this. Acquisition of AB will increase the number of exclusive titles on XBox by exactly one? Which title?

Call of Duty is the title Sony has been complaining about.

It's actually kind of amazing. I worked for Activision doing email tech support when I was in graduate school for extra money. Back then, they published dozens of games a year. In 2001, Activision published 41 games. In 2022, they've published *one* - just Call of Duty (Blizzard not included in these numbers).

The sort of amusing thing is that for the last few years, Sony has been paying Activision incredible amounts of money for some exclusive Call of Duty access - it sometimes releases earlier on Sony consoles, the PS version has extra features, more game modes, etc. Xbox players have complained about this for years. Now Microsoft wants to buy Activision and is even willing to guarantee Call of Duty on PS platforms for a minimum of 10 years (but perhaps with Xbox extra features) and Sony is crying foul.

Can Xbox and PC players use Spiderman in the Avengers game yet?

Lumbar Puncture

2022-12-14 3:41:36 PM

Gubbo: Lumbar Puncture: Gubbo: Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

Can try sending something to support and tell them you no longer have the 2FA phone number and need to update that in order to be able to change your password.

I mean, that's a lot of work to go to if the end result is stealing someone else's account.

If it was easy you would've already done it.

Gubbo

2022-12-14 3:47:06 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Gubbo: Lumbar Puncture: Gubbo: Noticeably F.A.T.: Gubbo: Gubbo: basscomm: xalres: They have a point. I'd like to play some of Sony's exclusives, but I didn't feel like entering a thousand year blood pact just to secure one of the 30 PS5s gifted to Man.

So put out Forbidden West on Xbox or STFU.

I'm pretty sure that Sony has PS5 consoles in stock right now

Hmmm *tries to sign into Playstation account*

I always forget that someone else has managed to use my email address to set up their playstation account. I can reset their password and everything.

I wonder would it give me their game library

Damn. Turns out I can't reset their password. It has a 2FA (wants to know the date of birth).

Try your own; maybe you signed up years ago blackout drunk.

First one I tried.

Can try sending something to support and tell them you no longer have the 2FA phone number and need to update that in order to be able to change your password.

I mean, that's a lot of work to go to if the end result is stealing someone else's account.

If it was easy you would've already done it.

What if I did it and the guys library was empty and I didn't even steal anything of value. I'd feel so silly

AppleOptionEsc

2022-12-14 4:50:12 PM

Throw Blacktivision into a garbage compactor. Can't get any worse than it already is by being a Microsoft company.

DoctorCal

2022-12-14 4:59:18 PM

Ah, I see. Thanks for the insight.

(CSB: I provided consulting/support to them for part of their CoD infra in 2016-2018.)

Nintenfreak

2022-12-14 5:29:35 PM

Look I just want Spyro the Dragon 4 on my Switch, IDGAF about anything else.

Lumbar Puncture

2022-12-14 5:35:21 PM

Nintenfreak: Look I just want Spyro the Dragon 4 on my Switch, IDGAF about anything else.

Might be possible under new leadership, otherwise I believe the primary internal team that had worked on the trilogy remaster was reassigned to COD: Warzone.

Nintenfreak

2022-12-14 6:03:22 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Nintenfreak: Look I just want Spyro the Dragon 4 on my Switch, IDGAF about anything else.

Might be possible under new leadership, otherwise I believe the primary internal team that had worked on the trilogy remaster was reassigned to COD: Warzone.

Wait was it cancelled? I didn't hear about that

Lumbar Puncture

2022-12-14 6:08:21 PM

Nintenfreak: Lumbar Puncture: Nintenfreak: Look I just want Spyro the Dragon 4 on my Switch, IDGAF about anything else.

Might be possible under new leadership, otherwise I believe the primary internal team that had worked on the trilogy remaster was reassigned to COD: Warzone.

Wait was it cancelled? I didn't hear about that

Not cancelled, but a lot of the Toys For Bob team were reassigned for Call of Duty: Warzone support.

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