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vudukungfu [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 9:03:18 PM  
U.S. citizens aiding war criminals and what's gonna happen
 
runwiz [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 9:51:02 PM  
The US is just obtaining trade material.  A deal for Whelan may soon be in the works.
 
wildcardjack
2022-12-14 4:40:24 AM  
What's it gonna take to trade Snowden?
 
erik-k [OhFark]
2022-12-14 4:55:06 AM  

runwiz: The US is just obtaining trade material.  A deal for Whelan may soon be in the works.


Won't matter.

Just like Russian Hitler demanded mass murdering terrorist-enabler Victor Bout to have his hostage Brittney Griner released, Russian Hitler wants a spy & murderer who's been sentenced to life in prison in Germany for Whelan.

Ugh. I hate this game. Does anybody know any speedrun cheats? Like a bug where if we send enough HIMARSes or some shiat, can we clip through the ground and land straight at the cutscene where we watch a snowy version of the Qaddafi video?
 
RandomInternetComment
2022-12-14 5:00:26 AM  

vudukungfu: U.S. citizens aiding war criminals and what's gonna happen


US "residents." FTFA. ok what is a US resident? Green card possessor?
 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 5:03:29 AM  

RandomInternetComment: vudukungfu: U.S. citizens aiding war criminals and what's gonna happen

US "residents." FTFA. ok what is a US resident? Green card possessor?


One is a citizen according to another story
 
derpes_simplex
2022-12-14 5:17:49 AM  
Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2022-12-14 5:19:47 AM  
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/hedgehog in the for of war
 
iheartscotch
2022-12-14 5:55:49 AM  
Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2022-12-14 6:05:36 AM  

iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?


Until we actually declare war on russia, I don't think this even qualifies as 'giving aid to the enemy'

It's illegal, yes, but it's not treason like when congress members try to overthrow our government
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 6:46:51 AM  

derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.


Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned
 
GrymRpr
2022-12-14 7:22:32 AM  
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Fasces Breaker
2022-12-14 7:38:52 AM  

baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned


HE. One primer breaks and no more soldier.
 
WillJM8528
2022-12-14 7:40:48 AM  

iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?


I get with that it is easy to forget with the highly sympathetic reporting for Ukraine,  but we aren't at war.
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2022-12-14 7:53:08 AM  
Thing is all those Russian idiots in NH/NJ needed was the right State department paperwork and about 4k and it would have been legal. Sounds like they got hit for the export violation due to false documents saying what it was and where it was going.
 
CheatCommando [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 7:53:38 AM  

erik-k: runwiz: The US is just obtaining trade material.  A deal for Whelan may soon be in the works.

Won't matter.

Just like Russian Hitler demanded mass murdering terrorist-enabler Victor Bout to have his hostage Brittney Griner released, Russian Hitler wants a spy & murderer who's been sentenced to life in prison in Germany for Whelan.

Ugh. I hate this game. Does anybody know any speedrun cheats? Like a bug where if we send enough HIMARSes or some shiat, can we clip through the ground and land straight at the cutscene where we watch a snowy version of the Qaddafi video?


Putin, like Stalin, will die in his own bed. Quit defining impossible conditions as the only means of victory. The world is not a poorly authored morality play.
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2022-12-14 7:56:51 AM  

baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned


No black powder would work like shiat and you'd smell it right off. pistol powder loaded to the max in random rounds. You'd over pressure and wreck the guns and harm or kill the shooter.
 
Gooch [BareFark]
2022-12-14 7:57:17 AM  

CheatCommando: erik-k: runwiz: The US is just obtaining trade material.  A deal for Whelan may soon be in the works.

Won't matter.

Just like Russian Hitler demanded mass murdering terrorist-enabler Victor Bout to have his hostage Brittney Griner released, Russian Hitler wants a spy & murderer who's been sentenced to life in prison in Germany for Whelan.

Ugh. I hate this game. Does anybody know any speedrun cheats? Like a bug where if we send enough HIMARSes or some shiat, can we clip through the ground and land straight at the cutscene where we watch a snowy version of the Qaddafi video?

Putin, like Stalin, will die in his own bed. Quit defining impossible conditions as the only means of victory. The world is not a poorly authored morality play.


Username does not check out...
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2022-12-14 8:05:37 AM  

WillJM8528: highly sympathetic reporting for Ukraine
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2022-12-14 8:06:41 AM  
Reminds me of when I use to sell used computer parts on ebay, mostly chips. This is pre war. People in the US or over seas would be wanting to buy them and have me ship them to Asia, eastern Europe or even Russia. Are you insane I'd email back. I'd be hit with export violations from the state department. And they're like no no we do it all the time is legal. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are buying that stuff in the US with fake names and then drop shipping it to places they shouldn't.
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2022-12-14 8:08:27 AM  

CheatCommando: erik-k: runwiz: The US is just obtaining trade material.  A deal for Whelan may soon be in the works.

Won't matter.

Just like Russian Hitler demanded mass murdering terrorist-enabler Victor Bout to have his hostage Brittney Griner released, Russian Hitler wants a spy & murderer who's been sentenced to life in prison in Germany for Whelan.

Ugh. I hate this game. Does anybody know any speedrun cheats? Like a bug where if we send enough HIMARSes or some shiat, can we clip through the ground and land straight at the cutscene where we watch a snowy version of the Qaddafi video?

Putin, like Stalin, will die in his own bed. Quit defining impossible conditions as the only means of victory. The world is not a poorly authored morality play.


Stalin died on the floor laying in his own piss after having a stroke. The fact he was moved to a bed later is incidental.
 
Misch [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-14 8:36:01 AM  
Boris Livshiats gonna hit the fan
 
cefm
2022-12-14 9:00:09 AM  
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Thingster
2022-12-14 9:50:34 AM  
What US made "sniper rifle" bullets would be going to Russia, and once they got there what good would they do?

The US and the Russians don't use the same small arms rifle calibers in anything, and the ones that are close enough to be used are known for sub-par accuracy in Russian made arms due to Russia's 7.62 bore being 0.314" instead of the US/NATO 7.62 bore of 0.308".

No US companies make precision projectiles or precision loaded ammo in any Russian caliber.

So what was actually being smuggled, without the scare propaganda language?
 
The Dog Ate My Homework
2022-12-14 9:58:08 AM  
LOL, now russia will have to resort to using Wolf ammo, possibly the shiattiest garbage that ever existed.
 
Incog_Neeto
2022-12-14 10:00:41 AM  
If they run out of bullets I suggest they use harsh language.
 
jjorsett
2022-12-14 10:06:16 AM  
In other news Russia is apparently running out of bullets, at least the good ones

Why do good Russians need ammo?
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2022-12-14 10:08:57 AM  

Thingster: What US made "sniper rifle" bullets would be going to Russia, and once they got there what good would they do?

The US and the Russians don't use the same small arms rifle calibers in anything, and the ones that are close enough to be used are known for sub-par accuracy in Russian made arms due to Russia's 7.62 bore being 0.314" instead of the US/NATO 7.62 bore of 0.308".

No US companies make precision projectiles or precision loaded ammo in any Russian caliber.

So what was actually being smuggled, without the scare propaganda language?


https://eurasiantimes.com/dxl-5-ravager-russia-develops-1st-sniper-rifle-that-can-use-both-natos-russian-cartridges/?amp
 
electricjebus [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-12-14 10:19:11 AM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Reminds me of when I use to sell used computer parts on ebay, mostly chips. This is pre war. People in the US or over seas would be wanting to buy them and have me ship them to Asia, eastern Europe or even Russia. Are you insane I'd email back. I'd be hit with export violations from the state department. And they're like no no we do it all the time is legal. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are buying that stuff in the US with fake names and then drop shipping it to places they shouldn't.


I'm imagining that these are probably bullets not everybody has access to.  Armor piercing, incendiary etc...

So many questions though.
 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 10:24:37 AM  

Oneiros: Thingster: What US made "sniper rifle" bullets would be going to Russia, and once they got there what good would they do?

The US and the Russians don't use the same small arms rifle calibers in anything, and the ones that are close enough to be used are known for sub-par accuracy in Russian made arms due to Russia's 7.62 bore being 0.314" instead of the US/NATO 7.62 bore of 0.308".

No US companies make precision projectiles or precision loaded ammo in any Russian caliber.

So what was actually being smuggled, without the scare propaganda language?

https://eurasiantimes.com/dxl-5-ravager-russia-develops-1st-sniper-rifle-that-can-use-both-natos-russian-cartridges/?amp


Huh, interesting.  Thanks for posting!
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2022-12-14 10:33:59 AM  

Thingster: No US companies make precision projectiles or precision loaded ammo in any Russian caliber.

So what was actually being smuggled, without the scare propaganda language?


Correct, but we have a SAE and Metric fark ton of ammo in this country. The number one buyer of Russian small arms ammo in the past was: The USA... which is also the number one producer and user of small arms ammo in the world. There are people here who could source rounds for Russian mortars because they have the tax stamp. Basements full of cases of good Russian 12.7 ammo imported legally before the ban.
 
Mikeyworld
2022-12-14 10:47:50 AM  

Fasces Breaker: baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned

HE. One primer breaks and no more soldier.


But thiere is no safe guard that only Russian snipers get this ammo. It's planting small land mines, setting up a trap that will do harm with out consideration for who uses it. A Ukrainian sniper, who found a stash of Russian ammo would be a consequence of doing this. Not to mention a farmer out for family meat using the ammo he found. Not a good plan, sneaky but with issues.
 
Thingster
2022-12-14 10:54:45 AM  

Mikeyworld: Fasces Breaker: baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned

HE. One primer breaks and no more soldier.

But thiere is no safe guard that only Russian snipers get this ammo. It's planting small land mines, setting up a trap that will do harm with out consideration for who uses it. A Ukrainian sniper, who found a stash of Russian ammo would be a consequence of doing this. Not to mention a farmer out for family meat using the ammo he found. Not a good plan, sneaky but with issues.


We don't care, we've done similar before.

Project Eldest Son
 
spongeboob [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 11:42:43 AM  
This is an outrage
Why are those people being prosecuted
Instead they should be offered Pole Beans

program of covert operations conducted by the United States' Studies and Observation Group (SOG) during the Vietnam War. The project focused on placement of exploding cartridges into supplies used by communist combat forces
 
spongeboob [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 11:43:03 AM  

Thingster: Mikeyworld: Fasces Breaker: baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned

HE. One primer breaks and no more soldier.

But thiere is no safe guard that only Russian snipers get this ammo. It's planting small land mines, setting up a trap that will do harm with out consideration for who uses it. A Ukrainian sniper, who found a stash of Russian ammo would be a consequence of doing this. Not to mention a farmer out for family meat using the ammo he found. Not a good plan, sneaky but with issues.

We don't care, we've done similar before.

Project Eldest Son


Darn it
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2022-12-14 12:06:23 PM  

spongeboob: This is an outrage
Why are those people being prosecuted
Instead they should be offered Pole Beans

program of covert operations conducted by the United States' Studies and Observation Group (SOG) during the Vietnam War. The project focused on placement of exploding cartridges into supplies used by communist combat forces


Rear case of "A u vas Vietnavtsev bjut"
 
JessieL [TotalFark]
2022-12-14 12:13:18 PM  

Thingster: What US made "sniper rifle" bullets would be going to Russia, and once they got there what good would they do?

The US and the Russians don't use the same small arms rifle calibers in anything, and the ones that are close enough to be used are known for sub-par accuracy in Russian made arms due to Russia's 7.62 bore being 0.314" instead of the US/NATO 7.62 bore of 0.308".

No US companies make precision projectiles or precision loaded ammo in any Russian caliber.

So what was actually being smuggled, without the scare propaganda language?


https://www.sierrabullets.com/product/303-caliber-7-7mm-174-gr-hpbt-matchking/

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/scrapbook/archive/762x54r-150-grn-sst-accuracy-sal
 
Geotpf
2022-12-14 12:39:02 PM  

iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?


Treason has a specific constitutional definition, unlike most laws, one which is sometimes difficult to meet.

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

So, you need two seperate eyewitnesses to testify in open court that they witnessed them selling the bullets.  Things like financial paperwork, wire taps, etc., don't count.  It's an extra step that increases the chance of an acquittal or even a dismissal, when other laws have similar or stronger punishments but don't have the same technical requirements for a conviction.
 
Geotpf
2022-12-14 12:41:32 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Thing is all those Russian idiots in NH/NJ needed was the right State department paperwork and about 4k and it would have been legal. Sounds like they got hit for the export violation due to false documents saying what it was and where it was going.


You would probably be right before the Ukrainian war, but not now.  There is now a total arms embargo to Russia.
 
Do you know the way to Mordor
2022-12-14 12:48:55 PM  

Oneiros: iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?

Until we actually declare war on russia, I don't think this even qualifies as 'giving aid to the enemy'

It's illegal, yes, but it's not treason like when congress members try to overthrow our government


Russia is hoist by its' own petard here. Because officially, at least as far as we can call statements from the Russian government official, RUSSIA has not actually declared war on Ukraine. Instead, Russia insists on calling this a "special military operation."

So despite all the aid we are giving Ukraine, semantically we can use their own statements and tell Russia that we are not helping Ukraine win a war. Nothing to see here, comradskis!
 
cheeseaholic
2022-12-14 1:05:37 PM  

Do you know the way to Mordor: Oneiros: iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?

Until we actually declare war on russia, I don't think this even qualifies as 'giving aid to the enemy'

It's illegal, yes, but it's not treason like when congress members try to overthrow our government

Russia is hoist by its' own petard here. Because officially, at least as far as we can call statements from the Russian government official, RUSSIA has not actually declared war on Ukraine. Instead, Russia insists on calling this a "special military operation."

So despite all the aid we are giving Ukraine, semantically we can use their own statements and tell Russia that we are not helping Ukraine win a war. Nothing to see here, comradskis!


The Police Action in Vietnam all over again, with the sides reversed.
 
i.r.id10t
2022-12-14 1:17:40 PM  

baka-san: derpes_simplex: Be a shame if that ammo got delivered with a little C4 bonus hidden in the casing.

Black powder
One mag and the gun is useless until cleaned


Huh? I mean, a case full of 3f in a 762x39 is about 40gr, leave some room for the bullet and it is about 35, which is the same charge as I use in my 44 bp revolver... so it would be a weak shot... and may not cycle the action completely... but an AK would kinda shrug it off and keep going.   Even if you left enough air space in the case so the BP actually kaboomed an AK probably wouldn't care ... because at that point you are at even less powder and while problematic for a weaker design like the open top colts of the 1860s the AK is used to dealing with 45k psi as normal operating pressure ...

As to BP being "dirty" to shoot? It isn't that bad... most of the "mess" is partially burnt powder mixing with whatever is being used as lube (crisco, unsalted lard/tallow/fat from various animals, olive or other veg oil, etc or god forbid petroleum products) especially if they are petroleum based 'cause that stuff gets nasty when shooting with BP.
 
stuffy
2022-12-14 1:44:00 PM  
The case of MAGA hats was free.
 
ShowStop
2022-12-14 5:29:44 PM  
So my surplus stock of 7.62x54R in spam cans is potentially worth big money to the right people? I paid like $0.25/rd. Have prices hiat $5.00/rd yet? Hmmm...
 
anuran
2022-12-14 5:48:26 PM  

cheeseaholic: Do you know the way to Mordor: Oneiros: iheartscotch: Why do we have treason laws on the books if we do not utilize them?

Until we actually declare war on russia, I don't think this even qualifies as 'giving aid to the enemy'

It's illegal, yes, but it's not treason like when congress members try to overthrow our government

Russia is hoist by its' own petard here. Because officially, at least as far as we can call statements from the Russian government official, RUSSIA has not actually declared war on Ukraine. Instead, Russia insists on calling this a "special military operation."

So despite all the aid we are giving Ukraine, semantically we can use their own statements and tell Russia that we are not helping Ukraine win a war. Nothing to see here, comradskis!

The Police Action in Vietnam all over again, with the sides reversed.


During that era the USSR called it"fraternal assistance"
 
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