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Circusdog320 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:23:41 PM  
He should team up with George RR Martin for the next screenplay. It'll be great and debut in about 175 years
 
Thosw [BareFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:37:20 PM  
I remember sitting in the theater during the first one and when they said "nobody has ever ridden <Chekhov's flying gun-thing>" I knew it was gonna happen.
 
Ambivalence [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:37:39 PM  
Water world with better CGI, that was my impression.
 
phalamir [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 1:37:47 PM  

Circusdog320: He should team up with George RR Martin for the next screenplay. It'll be great and debut in about 175 years


You really want 75 hours of Slender Man Smurfs sitting around and cutting themselves?
 
Thosw [BareFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:38:07 PM  
I also knew the boat was gonna sink at the end of Titanic, but I don't like to brag.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:38:52 PM  
I haven't even heard that about it. From what I've read the CG wasn't improved a whole lot, and there are a TON of uncanny valley shots - which make people uncomfortable almost universally.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:40:35 PM  
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Wow, Peter Bradshaw doesn't hold back, does he?
 
BizarreMan [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 1:43:09 PM  

phimuskapsi: [Fark user image 777x233]

Wow, Peter Bradshaw doesn't hold back, does he?


I really wish he would tell us how he really feels.
 
mongbiohazard
2022-12-13 1:45:30 PM  
4 out of the 6 reviews on that top critics page are positive, not negative.

I'm betting it will be an OK movie with amazing visuals, like the first one. I saw the first one at least a dozen times in the theater. I saw it so many times in the theater that I'm not precisely sure just how many times I went. And I did that - and have watched it at home 0 times - because I wasn't going to be able to get that amazing 3D visual experience at home.

It was one of the most gorgeous movies I've ever seen, really raised the bar on visuals and effects - not just in the quality of them, but in the clever way those tools were being used.

The plot was "meh". It wasn't awful, it just was pretty cliché. It was good enough to hang all those gorgeous visuals on.
 
Wine Sipping Elitist [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 1:46:22 PM  
Oblig
James Cameron South Park
Youtube HIC22gQfh6E

The bravest pioneer! No ocean too deep or budget too steep (who's that) it's James Cameron!
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:47:17 PM  

BizarreMan: phimuskapsi: [Fark user image 777x233]

Wow, Peter Bradshaw doesn't hold back, does he?

I really wish he would tell us how he really feels.


He shouldn't take it so easy next time. Really dig in.
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Hollywood Reporter is reported as "Fresh" but the last paragraph isn't exactly singing praises either.


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SirDigbyChickenCaesar
2022-12-13 1:48:39 PM  
It doesn't have Trudy which is the best part of the first one.
 
labman [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 1:51:42 PM  

mongbiohazard: 4 out of the 6 reviews on that top critics page are positive, not negative.

I'm betting it will be an OK movie with amazing visuals, like the first one. I saw the first one at least a dozen times in the theater. I saw it so many times in the theater that I'm not precisely sure just how many times I went. And I did that - and have watched it at home 0 times - because I wasn't going to be able to get that amazing 3D visual experience at home.

It was one of the most gorgeous movies I've ever seen, really raised the bar on visuals and effects - not just in the quality of them, but in the clever way those tools were being used.

The plot was "meh". It wasn't awful, it just was pretty cliché. It was good enough to hang all those gorgeous visuals on.


You've pretty much encapsulated my thoughts on it, only I saw the original in the theater once.  I have watched it a couple of times since when nothing else was on.  My wife wants to see the new one, so i'm sure we'll do that sometime soon...
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:54:26 PM  

mongbiohazard: 4 out of the 6 reviews on that top critics page are positive, not negative.


The positive ones all say the same thing: Shallow, largely uninteresting or new story, great visuals. That's not exactly high praise.
 
syrynxx [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 1:54:43 PM  
What is the blue nipple count?
 
Copperbelly watersnake
2022-12-13 1:56:16 PM  
"Ultimately, it's the sincerity of Cameron's belief in this fantastical world he's created that makes it memorable."

Words, I put some together.

Even the critics claiming they loved it make it sound like a cluttered, disjointed mess plot wise that lasts too long. But it looks really pretty.
 
no1curr [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 1:59:18 PM  
It apparently needs to make $2b to be profitable, at least according to Cameron

With the first one being visually stunning and not much else, 13 years between releases, and the rise of streaming, I'm not confident it will. But we'll see I guess.

I won't be paying to see it because Cameron is a pompous ass. If it doesn't make bank I'm sure he'll blame the MCU for something.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:00:09 PM  
Does Jack still die in the end?
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:00:31 PM  

mongbiohazard: 4 out of the 6 reviews on that top critics page are positive, not negative.

I'm betting it will be an OK movie with amazing visuals, like the first one. I saw the first one at least a dozen times in the theater. I saw it so many times in the theater that I'm not precisely sure just how many times I went. And I did that - and have watched it at home 0 times - because I wasn't going to be able to get that amazing 3D visual experience at home.

It was one of the most gorgeous movies I've ever seen, really raised the bar on visuals and effects - not just in the quality of them, but in the clever way those tools were being used.

The plot was "meh". It wasn't awful, it just was pretty cliché. It was good enough to hang all those gorgeous visuals on.


I read several reviews so far, and even the positive reviews are 80% about the effects and have a meh opinion on the story/performances.
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:01:48 PM  

Ambivalence: Water world with better CGI, that was my impression.


Waterworld had Dennis Hopper chewing all the scenery.
 
Dallymo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:02:39 PM  

Thosw: I remember sitting in the theater during the first one and when they said "nobody has ever ridden <Chekhov's flying gun-thing>" I knew it was gonna happen.


I remember missing out on a nice lunch out after the movie because my kid, who'd been looking forward to Avatar for so long, heard me giggle and whisper "The ciiiiiiircle of liiiife" during the sitting around the tree of life scene. He wanted it to be the best movie ever. He was too pissed at me to be pleasant enough to go to a restaurant.

I wish Avatar had been a 40-minute Pandora travelogue, just some nice music and maybe Attenborough narration. I would have gone back to see it ten times, it was visually gorgeous.
 
Exile On Beale Street [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:02:50 PM  
"Whatever they did, it wasn't ENOUGH!"
 
Jim from Saint Paul
2022-12-13 2:08:21 PM  
So that's a lot of smack talk for a movie with 84% positive ratings.

/I have no intention of seeing this movie and didn't like the parts I saw of the first one
//"Flight of Passage" is a *great* ride though
 
Kris_Romm
2022-12-13 2:11:49 PM  
84%?  Really?

Not sure I believe it.
 
Serious Post on Serious Thread
2022-12-13 2:11:53 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Does Jack still die in the end?


John doesn't. Still.
 
soporific
2022-12-13 2:13:14 PM  
I've seen movies for worse reasons. I saw the latest Jurassic World on Imax because I wanted to see a spectacle. Hell, I saw Wing Commander because it had an Episode 1 preview attached to it.

So I'll go see this in IMAX 3D because it's going to look amazing. I want to see what we've been waiting 13 years to see. I'm mildly curious about the story, but as long as it doesn't actively piss me off like the Jurassic World sequels (I never learn) then it's a net positive.
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:15:52 PM  
So apparently on the home streams of Avatar, they cut out the tendril-wrapping sex scene between the generic guy and blue Gamora.

That was like the only scene I really remember from seeing it in the theaters.
 
Rwa2play [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:18:10 PM  

no1curr: It apparently needs to make $2b to be profitable, at least according to Cameron

With the first one being visually stunning and not much else, 13 years between releases, and the rise of streaming, I'm not confident it will. But we'll see I guess.

I won't be paying to see it because Cameron is a pompous ass. If it doesn't make bank I'm sure he'll blame the MCU for something.


Hmmm, don't recall the MCU covering "Dances With Wolves", then adding smurfs and CGI to it.
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:18:36 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: So that's a lot of smack talk for a movie with 84% positive ratings.


But that's the thing.  Even the positive reviews don't really seem to be calling it a good movie, just a movie with great special effects.  I mean, that's nice and all, but that's a long-ass movie to sit through if it's only redeeming quality is "pretty".
 
Rwa2play [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:20:48 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: So that's a lot of smack talk for a movie with 84% positive ratings.


People love paying money for looking at pretty shiat.

/They should go to a museum then
//Lots of pretty shiat there too
///but it's actually educational
 
Lambskincoat [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:24:07 PM  

syrynxx: What is the blue nipple count?


Good question, I would like to paraphrase: Will I get wood from watching a naked, giant blue CGI woman?
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:37:07 PM  

Kris_Romm: 84%?  Really?

Not sure I believe it.


The negatives are REALLY negative, and the good ones are "Well, it's Cameron, and it's a spectacle, therefore it is amazing". 


One of the negatives:
"Watching the film [feels] like being waterboarded with turquoise cement."
- Daily Telegraph
 
yakmans_dad
2022-12-13 2:42:20 PM  
It sounds like the movie equivalent of "applaud the set."
 
Some Bass Playing Guy [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:44:26 PM  
In other words, exactly like the first one. Avatar wasn't a great film in terms of storytelling, but it was a decent story with immersive visuals. This new one is probably the same. At the end of the day, a film doesn't have to have a deep meaning. Sometimes a film is just entertainment.
 
rudemix [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:48:28 PM  
This can't be true! In every fark thread about avatar the first 40 posts are 'DiD I MaKE it In BEfoRe tHE FanbOis?' and then the next posts are all shiatting on the first movie and how this movie will be terrible. Then there is a lull before someone posts something like 'I liked the first one and will give this one a look' and then the horde responds with full force about that poster and how they should stop liking what the professional dislikers dislike.

Based on fark experts in seerism and futureology who know, this movie stinks already.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 2:50:47 PM  
What was the last movie to have 10+ years between the original and the sequel/reboot/reimagining to be any good?

I know there must be some, but.
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:53:32 PM  

rudemix: This can't be true! In every fark thread about avatar the first 40 posts are 'DiD I MaKE it In BEfoRe tHE FanbOis?' and then the next posts are all shiatting on the first movie and how this movie will be terrible. Then there is a lull before someone posts something like 'I liked the first one and will give this one a look' and then the horde responds with full force about that poster and how they should stop liking what the professional dislikers dislike.

Based on fark experts in seerism and futureology who know, this movie stinks already.


Do you feel better now, getting that off your chest? Can you enjoy Avatar: Waterworld 2: Electric Tail Boogaloo more now?
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:55:32 PM  

Gubbo: What was the last movie to have 10+ years between the original and the sequel/reboot/reimagining to be any good?

I know there must be some, but.


Blade Runner 2049.

Not good in the box office numbers sense, but it was a great movie and a good follow-up to a movie that also didn't didn't do well at the box office, but became appreciated years later.

There are also people that defend that prequel/reboot of John Carpenter's The Thing from a while back.  I enjoyed Ghostbusters: Afterlife alright, although it was definitely well below the original movie.
 
Some Bass Playing Guy [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 2:57:38 PM  
Ya'll are a bunch of cranky armchair movie critics.
 
Marcos P
2022-12-13 2:58:24 PM  
When does the bald kid with the arrow on his head do the magic?
 
Foxxinnia
2022-12-13 2:59:50 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: In other words, exactly like the first one. Avatar wasn't a great film in terms of storytelling, but it was a decent story with immersive visuals. This new one is probably the same. At the end of the day, a film doesn't have to have a deep meaning. Sometimes a film is just entertainment.


That's what makes Cameron's obsession with the series all the stranger. It's one thing to make the first Avatar film, but what exactly is it about this series which makes him so compelled to make a half-dozen of them if he's just going to be telling fairly rote, not terrifically original stories with fantastic special effects? It's not like these seem to be the studio demanding these movies and expecting them to fit some market-approved mold, it all seems to be his vision. But why is this of all things his vision? It'd be one thing if it really were some massive work of staggering genius or an absurd, out there, immensely flawed work of self-indulgence. But they just seem to be fairly entertaining special effects driven movies of no particular depth.
 
centrifugal bumblepuppy
2022-12-13 3:01:12 PM  
Smurfatar | Robot Chicken | adult swim
Youtube Z6Je6RsI_PA
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 3:01:44 PM  

Gubbo: What was the last movie to have 10+ years between the original and the sequel/reboot/reimagining to be any good?

I know there must be some, but.


i.kym-cdn.comView Full Size


/I know it's not bait, but I couldn't help answering with a gif that provides a solid answer
 
TDWCom29
2022-12-13 3:02:06 PM  
If nothing else it'll take us back to a more innocent time where we wondered why Sam Worthington was in every single movie
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 3:03:30 PM  

TDWCom29: If nothing else it'll take us back to a more innocent time where we wondered why Sam Worthington was in every single movie


That really was a strange few years.
 
rudemix [OhFark]
2022-12-13 3:06:53 PM  

scottydoesntknow: rudemix: This can't be true! In every fark thread about avatar the first 40 posts are 'DiD I MaKE it In BEfoRe tHE FanbOis?' and then the next posts are all shiatting on the first movie and how this movie will be terrible. Then there is a lull before someone posts something like 'I liked the first one and will give this one a look' and then the horde responds with full force about that poster and how they should stop liking what the professional dislikers dislike.

Based on fark experts in seerism and futureology who know, this movie stinks already.

Do you feel better now, getting that off your chest? Can you enjoy Avatar: Waterworld 2: Electric Tail Boogaloo more now?


I imagine i feel as smug and swell as the people who relentlessly shiat on things they don't like. I guess i should ask you, does it always feel so good to be smug and smarmy?
 
stoli n coke
2022-12-13 3:07:09 PM  

Kris_Romm: 84%?  Really?

Not sure I believe it.


I know. People liking a thing you dont like has to be a conspiracy.
 
stoli n coke
2022-12-13 3:07:57 PM  

Rwa2play: no1curr: It apparently needs to make $2b to be profitable, at least according to Cameron

With the first one being visually stunning and not much else, 13 years between releases, and the rise of streaming, I'm not confident it will. But we'll see I guess.

I won't be paying to see it because Cameron is a pompous ass. If it doesn't make bank I'm sure he'll blame the MCU for something.

Hmmm, don't recall the MCU covering "Dances With Wolves", then adding smurfs and CGI to it.


Awwwww. That's just like the South Park show.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-13 3:09:26 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Gubbo: What was the last movie to have 10+ years between the original and the sequel/reboot/reimagining to be any good?

I know there must be some, but.

[i.kym-cdn.com image 500x207]

/I know it's not bait, but I couldn't help answering with a gif that provides a solid answer


That hadn't occurred to me. That was a good movie, certainly provides an answer that it can actually be done
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2022-12-13 3:11:25 PM  

rudemix: scottydoesntknow: rudemix: This can't be true! In every fark thread about avatar the first 40 posts are 'DiD I MaKE it In BEfoRe tHE FanbOis?' and then the next posts are all shiatting on the first movie and how this movie will be terrible. Then there is a lull before someone posts something like 'I liked the first one and will give this one a look' and then the horde responds with full force about that poster and how they should stop liking what the professional dislikers dislike.

Based on fark experts in seerism and futureology who know, this movie stinks already.

Do you feel better now, getting that off your chest? Can you enjoy Avatar: Waterworld 2: Electric Tail Boogaloo more now?

I imagine i feel as smug and swell as the people who relentlessly shiat on things they don't like. I guess i should ask you, does it always feel so good to be smug and smarmy?


Of course it does. If it didn't, people wouldn't be smug and smarmy. You got the 2nd best form of being smug and smarmy: Being smug and smarmy about other peoples' smugness and smarminess.

I get the best form because I still get to be smug and smarmy about you being smug and smarmy.
 
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