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2022-12-09 5:24:54 PM  
Now I want a scene somewhere in the Peacemaker series where Lobo and Aquaman discuss how handsome each other are.
 
2022-12-09 5:45:24 PM  
Maybe this Lobo movie will get made.  It's only been in development hell for 30 years
 
2022-12-09 6:08:01 PM  
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2022-12-09 7:18:02 PM  
I hope they remember that Lobo is a parody character making fun of 80s and 90s "edgy" anti-heroes and they keep that humour intact.
 
2022-12-09 9:51:59 PM  
"In an extensive report from the Hollywood Reporter..."

So maybe we should link that one?
 
2022-12-09 10:00:20 PM  
farking awesome, I have been wishing this for a very very long time. Now make it rated R, damnit!
 
2022-12-09 10:02:49 PM  

Trocadero: "In an extensive report from the Hollywood Reporter..."

So maybe we should link that one?


It was from 2 days ago and the Lobo reference was towards the end of that article
 
2022-12-09 10:02:56 PM  

Ghastly: I hope they remember that Lobo is a parody character making fun of 80s and 90s "edgy" anti-heroes and they keep that humour intact.


It's more like they saw the success of Deadpool and tried to find something in the tone.
 
2022-12-09 10:15:36 PM  
If he is willing to give up Aquaman for Lobo, it must mean they are starting out with Lobo on the planet of women
 
2022-12-09 10:22:26 PM  
Ok, but who's going to play Ambush Bug? Jim Carrey's aged out of the role.
 
2022-12-09 10:24:34 PM  
I bet Lobo could kick Black Adam's ass.
 
2022-12-09 10:33:54 PM  
This story should have been on Main.
 
2022-12-09 10:44:58 PM  
Great way to get away from the whole bed shtter situation.
 
2022-12-09 10:46:51 PM  
I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.
 
2022-12-09 10:50:16 PM  

Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.


Cavill would have been a fine superman under any other director by Snyder. You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout. The complexity comes from good writing, not from adding angst. For crying out loud, they did it spectacularly well on a cartoon.
 
2022-12-09 10:50:56 PM  

Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.


He really is too one dimensional to carry something on his own, unless they play serious character development time, which would piss off the fanbois.  Lobo is supposed to be one dimensional barring the very occasional "I may be me, but I won't do THAT" moment.  You'd really have to reconceptualize him as something other than the chaos monkey edition of a Greek chorus to do a whole movie imo
 
2022-12-09 10:52:36 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

He really is too one dimensional to carry something on his own, unless they play serious character development time, which would piss off the fanbois.  Lobo is supposed to be one dimensional barring the very occasional "I may be me, but I won't do THAT" moment.  You'd really have to reconceptualize him as something other than the chaos monkey edition of a Greek chorus to do a whole movie imo


Err - to be clear I mean the character of Lobo is too one dimensional, not Momoa - he'd do a good job with what there is.  There just isn't a whole lot to work with really
 
2022-12-09 11:03:55 PM  

RyansPrivates: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

Cavill would have been a fine superman under any other director by Snyder. You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout. The complexity comes from good writing, not from adding angst. For crying out loud, they did it spectacularly well on a cartoon.


Yeah, agreed and I feel so bad for the guy with how badly the property has been handled. Doubly so if he indeed is out as Superman after leaving The Witcher.
 
2022-12-09 11:09:57 PM  

Trocadero: "In an extensive report from the Hollywood Reporter..."

So maybe we should link that one?


It basically said Wonder Woman 3 was cancelled and everything from before was now up in the air. People started to speculate that Gadot, Cavill, Momoa, and the Rock were out. Gunn said that some of the article was true and some of it was not, and that it was basically up in the air. The actors started making weird posts online.

It seems like some kind of reboot is happening, but they already have four or five movies releasing through the end of 2023. Is anyone gonna pay to watch a universe of movies that's been given a death sentence?
 
2022-12-09 11:11:24 PM  

RyansPrivates: You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout.


Yep.  Reeve's Superman had some bad movies, but was a great character.  With a nearly-invulnerable character who is as strong as he needs to be... you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker.  That guy would NEVER restrain himself.  You give godlike power to someone with that personality and they would inevitably use it to satisfy their desires without thought for how that affects others.  The current cinematic Superman makes no sense.

Now, give a guy all that power and make his problem that he has to hold it back so he can be that icon of good and find a way to challenge him so he has difficult choices to make about how much to hold back and why, and you can get a good story out of it.
 
2022-12-09 11:12:11 PM  

Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice.


No one cared about Guardians.
No one cared about Peacemaker.
I trust Gunn in making a character kind of forgotten, into someone we can all like.
(Assuming we forget about the DC52 reboot Lobo because, ugh)
 
2022-12-09 11:13:51 PM  

Ghastly: I hope they remember that Lobo is a parody character making fun of 80s and 90s "edgy" anti-heroes and they keep that humour intact.


I'm by no means a DC fan but I definitely meet my share of his fans who were completely incapable of seeing the joke. I suppose those guys were the outgrowth of Wolverine fans, but I really wonder where comics would've gone if those weren't the breakout characters of their respective decades.

Momoa can play an even bigger, louder, dumber bro. He'll be perfect
 
2022-12-09 11:14:07 PM  

Unsung_Hero: With a nearly-invulnerable character who is as strong as he needs to be... you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker. That guy would NEVER restrain himself. You give godlike power to someone with that personality and they would inevitably use it to satisfy their desires without thought for how that affects others.


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Notice how James Gunn produced that already...
 
2022-12-09 11:18:40 PM  

Myrdinn: Now I want a scene somewhere in the Peacemaker series where Lobo and Aquaman discuss how handsome each other are.


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2022-12-09 11:20:50 PM  

Zombie DJ: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice.

No one cared about Guardians.
No one cared about Peacemaker.
I trust Gunn in making a character kind of forgotten, into someone we can all like.
(Assuming we forget about the DC52 reboot Lobo because, ugh)


Yeah, except everything related to DC movies trying to replicate Marvel's success has been a gigantic clusterfark every step of the way. I've been a fan of Gunn since his Troma days so I'm sure he'll improve DC, but WB/DC have decades of history of shooting themselves in the foot. Hell, sometimes both feet.
 
2022-12-09 11:30:11 PM  
I'd watch that for Fetal's jizz
 
2022-12-09 11:34:48 PM  

Unsung_Hero: RyansPrivates: You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout.

Yep.  Reeve's Superman had some bad movies, but was a great character.  With a nearly-invulnerable character who is as strong as he needs to be... you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker.  That guy would NEVER restrain himself.  You give godlike power to someone with that personality and they would inevitably use it to satisfy their desires without thought for how that affects others.  The current cinematic Superman makes no sense.

Now, give a guy all that power and make his problem that he has to hold it back so he can be that icon of good and find a way to challenge him so he has difficult choices to make about how much to hold back and why, and you can get a good story out of it.


Add a side of guilt: he can literally save anyone but he can't save everyone.
 
2022-12-09 11:38:29 PM  
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2022-12-09 11:38:30 PM  

RyansPrivates: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

Cavill would have been a fine superman under any other director by Snyder. You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout. The complexity comes from good writing, not from adding angst. For crying out loud, they did it spectacularly well on a cartoon.


Cavill was every bit Superman as Reeves.  He did the  part very well.
 
2022-12-09 11:43:49 PM  

RyansPrivates: Unsung_Hero: RyansPrivates: You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout.

Yep.  Reeve's Superman had some bad movies, but was a great character.  With a nearly-invulnerable character who is as strong as he needs to be... you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker.  That guy would NEVER restrain himself.  You give godlike power to someone with that personality and they would inevitably use it to satisfy their desires without thought for how that affects others.  The current cinematic Superman makes no sense.

Now, give a guy all that power and make his problem that he has to hold it back so he can be that icon of good and find a way to challenge him so he has difficult choices to make about how much to hold back and why, and you can get a good story out of it.

Add a side of guilt: he can literally save anyone but he can't save everyone.


Except he's faster than the Flash and can turn back time as needed.  In some continuities he's immortal so long as he's under a yellow sun... so he could loop back on himself 8 billion times and spend an hour, a day, or whatever being a personal chaperone of every single person on the planet.

It's one of the problems I have with pretty much all of DC and a lot of Marvel - the main lineup is pretty much 100% gods if they were smart enough to intelligently use their powers.  Even Batman could do a lot more good as Bruce Wayne investing his money in politics, schools, mental health treatment, and policing than in paying for the tech to make himself a one-man small army to personally punch a handful of criminals in the face.
 
2022-12-09 11:45:13 PM  
Like I said the other day when WW3 was canceled: they're nuking the Snyder-DC universe.

It's a complete reset.
 
2022-12-09 11:45:19 PM  

RyansPrivates: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

Cavill would have been a fine superman under any other director by Snyder. You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout. The complexity comes from good writing, not from adding angst. For crying out loud, they did it spectacularly well on a cartoon.


No, they didn't, you were just 12.
Man of Steel raised a good question. Would you rather save an adopted world that did you wrong, or resurrect an unknown homeworld where you might have belonged?
The devil you know, or the devil you don't?
It's an odd hypothetical, and it's not unheard of in sci-fi. Three Body Problem raised a similar question and answered it in the opposite way.
 
2022-12-09 11:46:00 PM  

Unsung_Hero: you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker.


Wtf? What movie did you watch?
 
2022-12-09 11:52:35 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Even Batman could do a lot more good as Bruce Wayne investing his money in politics, schools, mental health treatment, and policing than in paying for the tech to make himself a one-man small army to personally punch a handful of criminals in the face.


They kind of handled that in the new movie. First, the Waynes set up a foundation to "renew" Gotham but it turns into an unlimited slush fund for the mob and crooked cops. Near the end, the new mayor tells Bruce he could be doing so much more to help the city if he just tried a little. I'd like to see them try, in any of these movies, to let Lex Luthor successfully run for president.
 
2022-12-09 11:56:19 PM  

Trocadero: They kind of handled that in the new movie


I watched that movie expecting to be disappointed.  OK, I wasn't particularly happy about Emo Wayne in the Batsuit, but overall I liked seeing Batman use his brains more than his fists.
 
2022-12-10 12:05:10 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Trocadero: They kind of handled that in the new movie

I watched that movie expecting to be disappointed.  OK, I wasn't particularly happy about Emo Wayne in the Batsuit, but overall I liked seeing Batman use his brains more than his fists.


There were a handful of things that kept it from being perfect. And since it was so close, those flaws stick out more and drive you crazy. Also, the best scenes were made for a big farking screen; they're still good at home, but man, they were something else in a dark theater, w/ a massive screen and huge speakers (the Batmobile's coming out party, raiding the penthouse in the dark). The director did similar stuff w/ his two Planet of the Apes movies. There's an absolutely beautiful scene where a chimpanzee commandeers a 50 cal turret on a Humvee, and the camera is perched inside for the whole ride.
 
2022-12-10 12:06:38 AM  
I've been complaining that Momoa should have been cast as Lobo from the start and he was playing Aquaman as Lobo-Lite anyways, it will be a perfect role for him.
 
2022-12-10 12:09:39 AM  

Nintenfreak: Maybe this Lobo movie will get made.  It's only been in development hell for 30 years


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2022-12-10 12:34:25 AM  
Is there just one Aquaman or is there a freshwater Aquaman and a saltwater Aquaman?

Hydrophobic Aquaman?
 
2022-12-10 12:34:44 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

He really is too one dimensional to carry something on his own, unless they play serious character development time, which would piss off the fanbois.  Lobo is supposed to be one dimensional barring the very occasional "I may be me, but I won't do THAT" moment.  You'd really have to reconceptualize him as something other than the chaos monkey edition of a Greek chorus to do a whole movie imo


There's gonna be a chorus of monkeys in this thing? Awesome!
 
2022-12-10 12:38:48 AM  

carnifex2005: I've been complaining that Momoa should have been cast as Lobo from the start and he was playing Aquaman as Lobo-Lite anyways, it will be a perfect role for him.


Momoa got his start on Baywatch. He's a water guy. Therefore, Aquaman. Back off, buddy!
 
2022-12-10 1:02:37 AM  

Ghastly: I hope they remember that Lobo is a parody character making fun of 80s and 90s "edgy" anti-heroes and they keep that humour intact.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

No they're gonna take him 100% seriously and ruin it.
 
2022-12-10 1:03:04 AM  

Unsung_Hero: RyansPrivates: Unsung_Hero: RyansPrivates: You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout.

Yep.  Reeve's Superman had some bad movies, but was a great character.  With a nearly-invulnerable character who is as strong as he needs to be... you don't write him as a creepy incel stalker.  That guy would NEVER restrain himself.  You give godlike power to someone with that personality and they would inevitably use it to satisfy their desires without thought for how that affects others.  The current cinematic Superman makes no sense.

Now, give a guy all that power and make his problem that he has to hold it back so he can be that icon of good and find a way to challenge him so he has difficult choices to make about how much to hold back and why, and you can get a good story out of it.

Add a side of guilt: he can literally save anyone but he can't save everyone.

Except he's faster than the Flash and can turn back time as needed.  In some continuities he's immortal so long as he's under a yellow sun... so he could loop back on himself 8 billion times and spend an hour, a day, or whatever being a personal chaperone of every single person on the planet.

It's one of the problems I have with pretty much all of DC and a lot of Marvel - the main lineup is pretty much 100% gods if they were smart enough to intelligently use their powers.  Even Batman could do a lot more good as Bruce Wayne investing his money in politics, schools, mental health treatment, and policing than in paying for the tech to make himself a one-man small army to personally punch a handful of criminals in the face.


Batman isn't about doing good. That's Superman's job. Batman is about a mentally unstable rich guy who dresses up so he can maintain a secret identity while beating up substitutions for the guy that killed his parents.

You'll notice that he only whips out the big piles of cash when Lex Luthor, mind-controlled Superman, etc. get in the way of that goal.
 
2022-12-10 1:16:11 AM  

baron von doodle: Batman isn't about doing good. That's Superman's job. Batman is about a mentally unstable rich guy who dresses up so he can maintain a secret identity while beating up substitutions for the guy that killed his parents.


You gotta be wondering what the designers of Arkham were thinking. Gee, we need to build a mental hospital to incarcerate and rehabilitate the most dangerously criminally insane people. Let's make it like a brutal medieval dungeon. There's a good environment to nourish mental health. Like seriously Wayne, invest some money into modernizing Arkham to turn it into a real mental hospital and maybe you wouldn't have to keep beating the same mentally ill guys up over and over again.
 
2022-12-10 1:22:28 AM  

Ghastly: baron von doodle: Batman isn't about doing good. That's Superman's job. Batman is about a mentally unstable rich guy who dresses up so he can maintain a secret identity while beating up substitutions for the guy that killed his parents.

You gotta be wondering what the designers of Arkham were thinking. Gee, we need to build a mental hospital to incarcerate and rehabilitate the most dangerously criminally insane people. Let's make it like a brutal medieval dungeon. There's a good environment to nourish mental health. Like seriously Wayne, invest some money into modernizing Arkham to turn it into a real mental hospital and maybe you wouldn't have to keep beating the same mentally ill guys up over and over again.


Beating up mentally ill people is the goal.
 
2022-12-10 1:24:41 AM  

10Speed: carnifex2005: I've been complaining that Momoa should have been cast as Lobo from the start and he was playing Aquaman as Lobo-Lite anyways, it will be a perfect role for him.

Momoa got his start on Baywatch. He's a water guy. Therefore, Aquaman. Back off, buddy!


And then he worked on Stargate:Atlantis. You may be onto something here.
 
2022-12-10 1:25:16 AM  
Lobo is pretty much the only character that really fits into the edgelord, grimdark, extreme, synderverse.

That said, Lobo is a parody character, and the tone needs to be closer to the Deadpool movies than anything else.
 
2022-12-10 2:11:27 AM  
Easy...bring back Vincent Chase:

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2022-12-10 2:53:40 AM  

RyansPrivates: Wobambo: I want Gunn to succeed and I certainly see how Mamoa's perfect for Lobo... that's not a character I would expect or really care about seeing right out the gate for an all new DCU attempt. And taking away the lead on one of the few successful series they've managed to create for it seems like an odd choice. Actually popped over to this tab since I saw a rumor Cavil is now out as Superman, which.... I sincerely hope DC's train wreck days are in the rearview.

Only really cared for Lobo in small doses, like in LEGION. Which again is something I'd love to see on the screen, but strikes me as an odd, odd leading choice.

Cavill would have been a fine superman under any other director by Snyder. You don't need to deconstruct Superman. Let him be the big blue boy scout. The complexity comes from good writing, not from adding angst. For crying out loud, they did it spectacularly well on a cartoon.


The horrible version of Jonathan Kent set the table for the most disappointing Superman I've seen to date.
 
2022-12-10 3:25:28 AM  
He's a good choice for Lobo.
Less so for Aquaman.
Wonder which version they'll go for.
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