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(Media Matters)   Both Russian and US right-wing media are coordinating to sell your opinion back to you   (mediamatters.org) divider line
    More: Obvious, Russia, WNBA player Brittney Griner, Russian state TV, right-wing media, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan, Daily Beast's Julia Davis, Vladimir Solovyov, Paul Whelan  
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2022-12-09 2:32:38 PM  
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2022-12-09 2:44:44 PM  
Is this about not playing hockey in the US south of the 40th parallel?
 
2022-12-09 2:55:14 PM  
The fascist media ignores Whelan's Bad Conduct Discharge from the Marine Corps for larceny and things and the whole media appears to ignore that he had $80,000 "temporarily confiscated" by customs at Domededovo Airport and then he allegedly was caught with a USB drive containing a list of personnel in a certain security agency after hanging out all day with a Russian citizen. I'm not saying Russia is correct, just that the story is entirely different than Griner's.
 
2022-12-09 3:02:41 PM  
Getting the "talking points" to line up. [Sigh]
 
2022-12-09 3:19:14 PM  
And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.
 
2022-12-09 3:21:15 PM  
Whener's case is one where Russia thinks they got a spy, and they want one of theirs back.
The issue is that Russia is overcomplicating things by trying to make it about NAtO and Germany instead of negotiating directly with the US.
 
2022-12-09 3:21:17 PM  
Ugh, I remember when Greg Kelly was the morning guy in New York who was always saying dopey things. The Soup made fun of him almost every week. Sad to see him go from fun stupid to scary stupid
 
2022-12-09 3:21:40 PM  
There isn't a "well, duh" sarcastic enough for that "revelation."
 
2022-12-09 3:24:06 PM  

Breaker Moran: The fascist media ignores Whelan's Bad Conduct Discharge from the Marine Corps for larceny and things and the whole media appears to ignore that he had $80,000 "temporarily confiscated" by customs at Domededovo Airport and then he allegedly was caught with a USB drive containing a list of personnel in a certain security agency after hanging out all day with a Russian citizen. I'm not saying Russia is correct, just that the story is entirely different than Griner's.


The same people that were screaming on Facebook about getting Bowe Bergdahl released because he deserted his post are now complaining that we left a true patriot to rot in a Russian jail because Biden didn't get Whelan released.
 
2022-12-09 3:25:06 PM  
Putin ain't complaining so neither should they. If tucks boss signed off on it, he don't get to complain.
 
2022-12-09 3:29:12 PM  
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2022-12-09 3:30:56 PM  
Quite the Russian resume building phrase --- "coordinated with US media colleagues over issues as any international correspondent would do."
 
2022-12-09 3:33:01 PM  
Yep, I'm going to get me a sex change and some bronzer.  I'm sick of being oppressed as a straight white male and I'm traveling to the idealic world that is being a Female LGBTQ POC.
 
2022-12-09 3:37:47 PM  
Because, of course, black women - lesbians especially - are accorded so much privilege in the US.
 
2022-12-09 3:41:41 PM  
Really, really similar to what a bunch of super-serious, totally progressive Farkers were saying yesterday, too.

Funny, that.
 
2022-12-09 3:41:53 PM  
"When the [Telecommunications Act of 1996] deregulated the number of radio stations a single corporation could own, it also deregulated the number of television stations a corporation or individual could own. Local stations that used to belong to a single parent corporation now belong to a larger conglomerate [...] The same goes for local news as well, with corporations like the Sinclair Broadcast Group -- a company that owned just 12 stations in 1996 -- accumulating more than 50 stations since, most of which have seen their newsrooms gutted in favor of pre-packaged, centrally produced news, almost none of which is local.

McChesney says the move happened for a fairly simple reason, saying that once corporations realized they could make money off the news -- rather than just viewing it as a public service -- they started 'making that a joke, too.' As he notes, the move made it so 'they could still put on what's called a news show, but it's mostly just fluff and trivia and 23-year-olds spewing out talking points that they read on a teleprompter, having no idea what the fark they're talking about, fortunately for them.'

That kind of mindless newsreading has real consequences, too. As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all."

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.' In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

https://www.avclub.com/the-telecommunications-act-of-1996-gave-us-shiatty-cell-1798250823
 
2022-12-09 3:41:57 PM  
Obvious tag is apt

Never has it been more clear that the Kremlin's propaganda/disinformation apparatus is driving the right wing narrative

we have reports that Kremlin plans to boost the perception that this trade was bad, and 10 seconds later all of the usual derp suspects parrot the Kremlin's words - are they getting them directly from Russia?   I've typed out "russian parrot" so many times today i have a strained right pinky.

then this site gets flooded with a bunch of 18 year old accounts, with no posting history or farkies, all coming out an running the same chicken farking narrative that the RWNJ's are screeching.

It's so obvious - the GOP is compromised by Russia
 
2022-12-09 3:43:07 PM  
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2022-12-09 3:43:52 PM  
This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.
 
2022-12-09 3:45:54 PM  
how about, she has more media attention/fame than those other yahoos rotting in russian jails hose names you don't know and the news don't bother to talk about regularly.


the politics is, freeing person X will be noticed and an act that likely gains followers to vote for you later.
while person Z should also be freed, and has in fact been waiting to be freed longer, but there will be little to no political followers gains to be had, because they are not anyone the media cares to spend time talking about, unlike say a person who plays sports and has been seen on tv before.


but yeah sure you idiots go on and consume whatever ignorance you're into about the whole sexual orientation or skin color crap you can't stop banging on about.
idiots
 
2022-12-09 3:47:30 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.


Naw, if that was going on there'd be weird user names with Russian words and shiat
 
2022-12-09 3:47:33 PM  

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Dang not only has fark stopped reading the article they stopped looking at the Boobies in the thread!
 
2022-12-09 3:47:37 PM  
AI reads text off a jpg meme your racist uncle posts, relays it to Russia, it is teledumped on to a server at Murdoch enterprises and spit back at you on a rural and "local" news channel
 
2022-12-09 3:47:43 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.


Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.
 
2022-12-09 3:49:09 PM  

MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.


Elon wishes he was a 40 year old man.
 
2022-12-09 3:49:54 PM  
Why are they such shiats? I mean do they fear the "other" that much? I'm a fit guy from what would be considered a macho background, I played lots of sports, did martial arts, do traditionally considered "manly" things and I don't at all think the way they think.

Are they that beholden to their backgrounds and upbringing? What kind of human being doesn't come to some realization that we're all human and in this together? I know they don't have empathy. I'm curious why. It's got to be the fear.

I'm just not afraid of or threatened by Brittney Griner and clearly the right wingers are. Does the hate make them feel safe? I don't think they've faced any actual challenges in their lives where they've had to prove themselves or use practical knowledge in an adversarial situation. I mean even in an otherwise safe environment like sports.
You learn something about yourself and the world when you can't whine "Jesus" or mommy and daddy can't come and help you out of something.
When it happens that you go through some tougher circumstances you learn to value mercy and compassion and you appreciate things like teamwork and outcomes in practical realities.

These people just don't have that. I feel much closer to Griner than I do to them. And we're, on the surface, completely opposite. I'm a straight, white, male but I'm nothing like the people who constantly, and for some bizarre reason with a chip on their shoulder, refer to themselves as such.

Do they not have the farking brains? Or the balls? Or the soul? It's just galling how small and petty and cowardly these people really are.
 
2022-12-09 3:50:33 PM  

MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.


You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.
 
2022-12-09 3:51:36 PM  

Petroleum Oligarch: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

Elon wishes he was a 40 year old man.


How old is he...?

*Googles.*

Oh he's 51. Lol even sadder.
 
2022-12-09 3:52:35 PM  
Putin probably engineered this deal to make Biden look bad, knowing it was going to look like a terrible trade.
 
2022-12-09 3:52:54 PM  

Breaker Moran: The fascist media ignores Whelan's Bad Conduct Discharge from the Marine Corps for larceny and things and the whole media appears to ignore that he had $80,000 "temporarily confiscated" by customs at Domededovo Airport and then he allegedly was caught with a USB drive containing a list of personnel in a certain security agency after hanging out all day with a Russian citizen. I'm not saying Russia is correct, just that the story is entirely different than Griner's.


But he's a MARINE!!!  We should have *false equivalency* *tu quoque and such!* *false cause logical fallacy* *black or white logical fallacy* *No True Scotsman logical fallacy*!!!
 
2022-12-09 3:53:52 PM  

MattytheMouse: Petroleum Oligarch: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

Elon wishes he was a 40 year old man.

How old is he...?

*Googles.*

Oh he's 51. Lol even sadder.


Nah, dude, Elon is cool.  He wears sunglasses indoors!
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I've never met a person wearing sunglasses indoors that wasn't a super cool dude.
 
2022-12-09 3:54:09 PM  

GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.


Pretty much. But at least I didn't spend $44 billion dollars to post shiat like this, lol
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2022-12-09 3:55:03 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Putin probably engineered this deal to make Biden look bad, knowing it was going to look like a terrible trade.


The Shirtless Chessmaster WINS AGAIN!  This is almost as brilliant as his 3 day invasion of Ukraine.  The man can never lose!
 
2022-12-09 4:03:18 PM  
If it were the other way around, the Russkies and the GOP would be talking nonstop about Whelan's BCD and Griner's gold medals. The only thing they really care about is making America look bad.
 
2022-12-09 4:07:22 PM  

Dr. Bison: Why are they such shiats? I mean do they fear the "other" that much? I'm a fit guy from what would be considered a macho background, I played lots of sports, did martial arts, do traditionally considered "manly" things and I don't at all think the way they think.

Are they that beholden to their backgrounds and upbringing? What kind of human being doesn't come to some realization that we're all human and in this together? I know they don't have empathy. I'm curious why. It's got to be the fear.

I'm just not afraid of or threatened by Brittney Griner and clearly the right wingers are. Does the hate make them feel safe? I don't think they've faced any actual challenges in their lives where they've had to prove themselves or use practical knowledge in an adversarial situation. I mean even in an otherwise safe environment like sports.
You learn something about yourself and the world when you can't whine "Jesus" or mommy and daddy can't come and help you out of something.
When it happens that you go through some tougher circumstances you learn to value mercy and compassion and you appreciate things like teamwork and outcomes in practical realities.

These people just don't have that. I feel much closer to Griner than I do to them. And we're, on the surface, completely opposite. I'm a straight, white, male but I'm nothing like the people who constantly, and for some bizarre reason with a chip on their shoulder, refer to themselves as such.

Do they not have the farking brains? Or the balls? Or the soul? It's just galling how small and petty and cowardly these people really are.


I think there are two things at play.  First, they have a fixed mindset, which leads them to believe that their abilities are fixed and cannot be improved (a common tell is that they tend to value strength and/or intelligence over hard work).   Second, they see all of life as a zero-sum game, therefore if someone else is becoming more successful, it must mean that they themselves are becoming less successful.

As a result, if they see someone who is clearly better than them at something they consider important, their typical reaction is either to try to tear them down, or to try to suck up to them.  Which path they choose depends on how similar they perceive the more successful person to be to themselves.

/I may have read an unhealthy number of books on human behavior during lockdown
 
2022-12-09 4:13:40 PM  

MattytheMouse: GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.

Pretty much. But at least I didn't spend $44 billion dollars to post shiat like this, lol
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It's a shame what all of those time-outs have done to your public work here...
 
2022-12-09 4:20:11 PM  

GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.

Pretty much. But at least I didn't spend $44 billion dollars to post shiat like this, lol
[static1.e621.net image 850x562]

It's a shame what all of those time-outs have done to your public work here...


I'm doing the lord's work.
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2022-12-09 4:25:12 PM  

MattytheMouse: GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.

Pretty much. But at least I didn't spend $44 billion dollars to post shiat like this, lol
[static1.e621.net image 850x562]

It's a shame what all of those time-outs have done to your public work here...

I'm doing the lord's work.
[Fark user image 425x271]


For some reason it's weird to me that people would have Garfield of all things as a subject for genderbending.
 
2022-12-09 4:32:03 PM  
Amazing how so many trolls have suddenly popped up to post the usual bullshiat about this....
 
2022-12-09 4:33:14 PM  

MattytheMouse: Petroleum Oligarch: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

Elon wishes he was a 40 year old man.

How old is he...?

*Googles.*

Oh he's 51. Lol even sadder.


hi every1 im new! *holds up spork* my name is elon but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m! lol...as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i bought twitter 2 meet random ppl like me ^_^... im 51 years old (im immature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol...neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM! <--- me bein random again ^_^ hehe...toodles!!!!!
 
2022-12-09 4:45:58 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Putin probably engineered this deal to make Biden look bad, knowing it was going to look like a terrible trade.


You know what was an even worse trade? Maria Butina for nothing along with pardoning her boyfriend. It's weird how you Trumphumpers didn't give one red fark about Whelan when he was arrested and Trump made zero effort to bring him back. I bet you had some strong opinions about Bowe Bergdahl when he was released.
 
2022-12-09 4:49:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.


Were the accounts created in early/mid 2004?
 
2022-12-09 5:17:02 PM  
I'm glad Griner is out. Whelan is barely on my radar, same as any other Americans that may be detained in Russia.
But it was a bad deal.
America has no Russian nationals in prison on drug charges? Anything lighter than "International Arms Dealer"?
So yeah, expect Russia to strut.
I don't give a f*ck what Tucker or his ilk have to say.
 
2022-12-09 5:24:05 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.


She was released because she is a sports star, and her potential to boost approval ratings was higher than that of the CIA guy.
 
2022-12-09 5:30:19 PM  

MattytheMouse: GoldSpider: MattytheMouse: Peter von Nostrand: And elon is a useful idiot to both while thinking he's an edgelord.

Elon Musk is a 40 year old man whose entire deal is posting "lol ex-dee random" impact font-ass memes in 2022 with the only end goal seemingly to get strangers on the internet to like him... And I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than that.

You pretty much described most of FarkPol, just at a much smaller scale.

Pretty much. But at least I didn't spend $44 billion dollars to post shiat like this, lol
[static1.e621.net image 850x562]


Perfect solution, we take Twitter away from Elmo and just give it to you and you can go nuts.  Totally vote for that vs. what we got going now
 
2022-12-09 5:39:43 PM  

AcneVulgaris: Rapmaster2000: This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.

She was released because she is a sports star, and her potential to boost approval ratings was higher than that of the CIA guy.


So it has nothing to do with Russia simply not giving him up?   The US is the only participant in this?
 
2022-12-09 8:15:46 PM  

swahnhennessy: I'm glad Griner is out. Whelan is barely on my radar, same as any other Americans that may be detained in Russia.
But it was a bad deal.
America has no Russian nationals in prison on drug charges? Anything lighter than "International Arms Dealer"?
So yeah, expect Russia to strut.
I don't give a f*ck what Tucker or his ilk have to say.


It's not that we don't.

It's that Russian Hitler specifically and explicitly said the only one he would surrender his hostage for is terrorist mass murderer Viktor Bout.
 
2022-12-09 9:03:17 PM  

AcneVulgaris: Rapmaster2000: This was the entire initial thread complete with long dormant accounts suddenly appearing to tell us that she ONLY was released because she's a black lesbian and the white man can't get a fair shake in America.

Yes, I know, Fark is a backwater that no Russian would ever expend resources on astroturfing.  It's still weird how that happens.

She was released because she is a sports star, and her potential to boost approval ratings was higher than that of the CIA guy.


Another zombie troll account
 
2022-12-09 11:11:56 PM  
To be fair, Fox News has been repurposing RT programming for enough years that a lot of Americans think that it's home grown pissyness.
 
2022-12-09 11:23:12 PM  

Breaker Moran: The fascist media ignores Whelan's Bad Conduct Discharge from the Marine Corps for larceny and things and the whole media appears to ignore that he had $80,000 "temporarily confiscated" by customs at Domededovo Airport and then he allegedly was caught with a USB drive containing a list of personnel in a certain security agency after hanging out all day with a Russian citizen. I'm not saying Russia is correct, just that the story is entirely different than Griner's.


They're not ignoring it. They consider those to be his bonafides as a Real 'Murican Hero.

Real 'Murica hates the Fake America that formed the nation from the Thirteen Colonies. That's the elitist, East Coast 'America' that turned against 'Traditional Values' when they warred against States' Rights. Russians understand all this because they broke apart, and reformed into a new nation, that stripped its infrastructure and government, and threw anyone who disagreed with them in prisons or served them up some elevator shaft bullet cushions. Real 'Murica rejects their ideas on even basic health care or taxation. I mean, WTF do THOSE states know about being frontier types? I mean, they only carved out the basis for the nation from the wilderness and built it into powerhouse of industry, while Real 'Murica was homesteading and fighting the Indians instead of trading with them, like wussies. In order to Real 'Murica, you gotta be strong. Like Russian strong.

Strong like bear. Smart like goat.
 
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