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(The Hill)   Sanders will give 2024 "a hard look," mostly due to his trifocals being out of prescription   (thehill.com) divider line
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2022-12-09 7:48:38 AM  
Back AOC, she's next in line.
 
2022-12-09 8:14:07 AM  
Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.
 
2022-12-09 8:18:44 AM  
He lost much worse in 2020 then he ever did before, but sure Socialist Jan. The grift is just too good I suppose. $27 here, $27 there, it all adds up.
 
2022-12-09 8:23:21 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.


His legacy could be building up a viable progressive wing... or he could tilt at another presidential windmill.
 
2022-12-09 8:23:59 AM  
Why not best of the best?  87 YO Joe Biden and 114 YO Bernie as VP?

Why not save a lot of money and not run any Democrats in 2024?

Why not admit, "We don't have any good young people."

Democrats.  The only party on the planet that can lose to Republicans.
 
2022-12-09 8:32:35 AM  

claytonemery: Why not best of the best?  87 YO Joe Biden and 114 YO Bernie as VP?



Technically that's 113 years old Biden and 114 years old Bernie.
 
2022-12-09 8:45:13 AM  
The DNC is cooking up an elaborate scheme no doubt to STEAL his votes and HAND them to Hillary.
 
2022-12-09 8:45:52 AM  

vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.


Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break
 
2022-12-09 8:46:25 AM  
Sinema/Sanders 2024 - "America needs an SS"
 
2022-12-09 8:47:51 AM  

Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break


"But she's so haaaawwwwwwt!. Have you seen her dance?"
 
2022-12-09 8:47:57 AM  
"If Biden doesn't run."

Kind of a big caveat.
 
2022-12-09 8:48:02 AM  
Can we please start getting POTUS candidates that are under 65 at the very least.
 
2022-12-09 8:49:41 AM  

claytonemery: Democrats.  The only party on the planet that can lose to Republicans.


Only if Sanders helps.
 
2022-12-09 8:49:53 AM  

jlee4677: Can we please start getting POTUS candidates that are under 65 at the very least.


You did.  The overwhelming majority of candidates in 2020 were under 65.
 
2022-12-09 8:51:02 AM  

claytonemery: Why not best of the best?  87 YO Joe Biden and 114 YO Bernie as VP?

Why not save a lot of money and not run any Democrats in 2024?

Why not admit, "We don't have any good young people."

Democrats.  The only party on the planet that can lose to Republicans.


Except when they win, but that's ONLY because they promised me my $2,000 check.
 
2022-12-09 8:52:40 AM  

Print'sNotDead: Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break

"But she's so haaaawwwwwwt!. Have you seen her dance?"


Yeah, you guys are right.
Let's skip the charismatic firebrand that looks like the face of future Americans and nominate another old white man that thinks Republicans can be reasoned with.
 
2022-12-09 8:54:53 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Yeah, you guys are right.
Let's skip the charismatic firebrand that looks like the face of future Americans and nominate another old white man that thinks Republicans can be reasoned with.


We should at least wait until the ethics investigation is over though, right?
 
2022-12-09 8:55:10 AM  
AOC is not old enough or even male enough to be eligible for president in 2024.
 
2022-12-09 8:55:22 AM  
I love how Subby deliberately left out the "if Biden doesn't run" part

but hey, a Bernie troll thread
 
2022-12-09 8:55:38 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NewportBarGuy: Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.

His legacy could be building up a viable progressive wing... or he could tilt at another presidential windmill.


Welp, we all know which he's gonna choose unfortunately.
 
2022-12-09 8:55:45 AM  

vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.


She don't want it. She has given up. Washington is too corrupt.
 
2022-12-09 8:57:05 AM  
Long after Biden has passed he will be remembered as the man that saved us from 4 more years of chaos and gave us a relatively stable, peaceful time.

But for the love of god retire old man you did your job.
 
2022-12-09 8:57:37 AM  
Honestly the same for Sanders. Get these old coots out of the way.
 
2022-12-09 8:58:26 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Print'sNotDead: Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break

"But she's so haaaawwwwwwt!. Have you seen her dance?"

Yeah, you guys are right.
Let's skip the charismatic firebrand that looks like the face of future Americans and nominate another old white man that thinks Republicans can be reasoned with.


So far the only thing that AOC has demonstrated any aptitude for is fundraising vast sums of money for her D+30 district and twitter burns.

There is a lot of "talking the the talk" and zero "walking the walk"

Sorry you are so preoccupied with the fact that she's just telling you what you want to hear that you can't realize that she has done nothing in 4 years to back that up.
 
2022-12-09 9:01:26 AM  

mattj1984: Long after Biden has passed he will be remembered as the man that saved us from 4 more years of chaos and gave us a relatively stable, peaceful time.

But for the love of god retire old man you did your job.


I think the main reason Biden has not offered not to run is that Kamala Harris has no charisma on the national stage. I wish she did, I wish she wasn't the Right's new Hate Magnet, I wish she hadn't done and said some inartful things - but this is the situation we live in.

If she was Obama 2.0, he'd have announced his one-termery sometime in February 2021.
 
2022-12-09 9:02:09 AM  
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2022-12-09 9:02:10 AM  

claytonemery: Why not admit, "We don't have any good young people."


jlee4677: Can we please start getting POTUS candidates that are under 65 at the very least.


Some of you need to learn to say yes.
 
2022-12-09 9:03:41 AM  

Gubbo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NewportBarGuy: Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.

His legacy could be building up a viable progressive wing... or he could tilt at another presidential windmill.

Welp, we all know which he's gonna choose unfortunately.


A progressive President is not a viable President, without a firm base of progressives at the local and state level.  There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.  If there is a broad pool of future progressive candidates and a large support structure of progressive elected officials, the Democrats are more likely to choose a Presidential candidate that reflects those values.
 
2022-12-09 9:03:46 AM  
How farking irritating are reporters that we finish an election a month ago and they're on about 2024
Yeah sure, Zombie Bernie's going to run at age 85 or whatever
He's farking with you, my god
 
2022-12-09 9:05:32 AM  

Basket Of Deplorables: Rev. Skarekroe: Print'sNotDead: Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break

"But she's so haaaawwwwwwt!. Have you seen her dance?"

Yeah, you guys are right.
Let's skip the charismatic firebrand that looks like the face of future Americans and nominate another old white man that thinks Republicans can be reasoned with.

So far the only thing that AOC has demonstrated any aptitude for is fundraising vast sums of money for her D+30 district and twitter burns.

There is a lot of "talking the the talk" and zero "walking the walk"

Sorry you are so preoccupied with the fact that she's just telling you what you want to hear that you can't realize that she has done nothing in 4 years to back that up.


Username checks out
 
2022-12-09 9:07:15 AM  

jlee4677: Can we please start getting POTUS candidates that are under 65 at the very least.


Yeah, but when you've got ten of them running against each other to compete with the one guy in the room with national name recognition and an established base they're not going to win.
 
2022-12-09 9:07:44 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NewportBarGuy: Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.

His legacy could be building up a viable progressive wing... or he could tilt at another presidential windmill.

Welp, we all know which he's gonna choose unfortunately.

A progressive President is not a viable President, without a firm base of progressives at the local and state level.  There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.  If there is a broad pool of future progressive candidates and a large support structure of progressive elected officials, the Democrats are more likely to choose a Presidential candidate that reflects those values.


I know this. You know this. Most sensible people know that the only way to build political power is from the ground up. From school boards to city councils and state houses. Run for everything. God help us even Republicans know this.

But, it's hard work and it's a long term thing and why not just focus all your attention on running the President.
 
2022-12-09 9:07:45 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.


Yes there is, and the DCCC has done everything in their power to make sure they don't win.
Right-wing superPACs were literally funding the primary campaigns of centrists in safe blue seats where progressives had a shot.
We just lost the house because Sean Maloney decided to fark over progressives in New York.
Could you possible be more wrong about this?
 
2022-12-09 9:09:18 AM  

Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break


To begin with, there is not a "line".

Ask Barack Obama.
 
2022-12-09 9:11:35 AM  

vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.


It's her turn?
 
2022-12-09 9:11:57 AM  
Bernie's involvement helps energize progressive youth. It's good that he's around.
 
2022-12-09 9:12:11 AM  

Gaythiest Elitist: He lost much worse in 2020 then he ever did before, but sure Socialist Jan. The grift is just too good I suppose. $27 here, $27 there, it all adds up.


May get some bites.
 
2022-12-09 9:12:48 AM  

Basket Of Deplorables: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Excuse me? A backbencher congresswoman with zero legislative achievements is "next in line?" Give me a farking break


But don't you dare suggest there's a weird AOC cult here (and not just here).
 
2022-12-09 9:14:03 AM  

moothemagiccow: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.

Yes there is, and the DCCC has done everything in their power to make sure they don't win.
Right-wing superPACs were literally funding the primary campaigns of centrists in safe blue seats where progressives had a shot.
We just lost the house because Sean Maloney decided to fark over progressives in New York.
Could you possible be more wrong about this?


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2022-12-09 9:14:21 AM  

moothemagiccow: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.

Yes there is, and the DCCC has done everything in their power to make sure they don't win.
Right-wing superPACs were literally funding the primary campaigns of centrists in safe blue seats where progressives had a shot.
We just lost the house because Sean Maloney decided to fark over progressives in New York.
Could you possible be more wrong about this?


I mean, I could have terrible spelling and grammar errors.
 
2022-12-09 9:15:05 AM  

vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.


Weeeeeeeell, she will be old enough to run in October 2024. Plenty of time to get a campaign together!
 
2022-12-09 9:15:09 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NewportBarGuy: Bernie... I mostly love what you're fighting for you crazy old man. But, give it a rest and help someone with a f*cking chance.

His legacy could be building up a viable progressive wing... or he could tilt at another presidential windmill.

Welp, we all know which he's gonna choose unfortunately.

A progressive President is not a viable President, without a firm base of progressives at the local and state level.  There's too much emphasis on the Presidential election as a backstop and not enough emphasis on building a broad pool of future candidates for higher office.  If there is a broad pool of future progressive candidates and a large support structure of progressive elected officials, the Democrats are more likely to choose a Presidential candidate that reflects those values.


This is why I vote for the Green Party.  They do nothing but run some guy for president every 4 years, but my support for that guy shows how iconoclastic I am.
 
2022-12-09 9:15:46 AM  
Oh look, the Bernie haters are up early.  This one should be good.
 
2022-12-09 9:16:48 AM  

Print'sNotDead: Sinema/Sanders 2024 - "America needs an SS"


Weird joke about a Jewish man, but you do you I guess.

Your farkie just became piss yellow.
 
2022-12-09 9:17:17 AM  
I love what he stands for, but he's had his day (as has Dump). Let's see some new blood, and I'm not talking about a McKinsey alum here.

Having said that, getting anyone even moderately progressive on the ticket is going to be an uphill battle on the order of climbing Mt. Everest. There is no greater enemy to The Powers That Be than progressives. The money people don't give a shiat which letter is after your name on the ballot, so long as you'll play ball with them. If you won't, you're first in their crosshairs.
 
2022-12-09 9:17:36 AM  

vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.


That's a recipe for disaster. She does not have the votes. Let me repeat that: SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE VOTES. Progressives don't even represent the majority of the Democratic Party, let alone the American people. The Congressional Progressive Caucus has roughly 100 out of 435 House members and 1 out of 100 Senators.
 
2022-12-09 9:17:37 AM  
With the DNC moving away from caucuses, Bernie has zero chance. If you go back and look at 2016, you'll see that he won very few primaries, just caucuses where a small group of enthusiastic supports could carry the day.
 
2022-12-09 9:18:48 AM  

kling_klang_bed: vudukungfu: Back AOC, she's next in line.

Weeeeeeeell, she will be old enough to run in October 2024. Plenty of time to get a campaign together!


If there is an open primary (and I don't think there will be because I think Biden runs again) she should run. She won't win, but it's good experience.
 
2022-12-09 9:19:29 AM  
Trump and Sanders are in a race for biggest loser
 
2022-12-09 9:19:30 AM  
If Biden doesn't run...

JFC put away the Sanders Derangement Syndrome and take a breather.
 
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