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2022-12-09 3:53:48 AM  
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2022-12-09 5:49:41 AM  
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2022-12-09 7:51:20 AM  
And then Republicans wonder why every woman in America shows up to kick their fat asses out of office...
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2022-12-09 7:55:11 AM  
I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?
 
2022-12-09 7:58:22 AM  
The cruelty is the point.
 
2022-12-09 7:59:31 AM  

Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?


1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.
 
2022-12-09 8:01:52 AM  

Vermithrax Perjorative: The cruelty is the point.


It's also costing republicans elections
 
2022-12-09 8:01:54 AM  
Is the abortion clinic next to the restrooms?
 
2022-12-09 8:02:11 AM  
This guy is misogyny personified.
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2022-12-09 8:03:02 AM  
What the fark that can't be real
 
2022-12-09 8:05:57 AM  

holdmybones: This guy is misogyny personified.
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That nose is a paradox, in that it's been punched plenty of times, and somehow nowhere near enough.
 
2022-12-09 8:07:19 AM  
Seems to me from all this is that the Catholic Church has declared war on the United States. Its continuing coverups and protections of criminal clergy, their open and egregious attacks on the Constitution and promoting of bills that create protections for their particular religious institution bear this out.

Maybe the next time a Pope dies, we should nuke the Vatican while the Cardinals are all in town to vote. Just wipe the whole thing off the face of the Earth.

The Abrahamic religions have been nothing but violently oppressive to the human race.
 
2022-12-09 8:09:18 AM  

Deathfrogg: Maybe the next time a Pope dies, we should nuke the Vatican while the Cardinals are all in town to vote. Just wipe the whole thing off the face of the Earth.


I like the architecture and pagan history of Rome. Can you maybe just hit them with a nerve gas attack instead? That'll preserve historical monuments but get rid of the human infestation.
 
2022-12-09 8:09:26 AM  

Weaver95: And then Republicans wonder why every woman in America shows up to kick their fat asses out of office...
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Not nearly enoug white women, sadly.
 
2022-12-09 8:10:31 AM  
However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

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2022-12-09 8:11:48 AM  
FTFA:"However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

Outside of the utterly asinine slippery slope, I hate to break it to you, Tom, but failure to give reasonable accommodations for those suffering pregnancy related disabilities can be enforced by more than the EEOC. Ever heard of a lawsuit claiming discrimination for denial to grant a reasonable accommodation in employment? There's only a few thousand of those filed a year without the EEOC being remotely involved.

You're A) lying, B) ignorant, or C) stupid. I'm betting on some from column A, some from column B, and the bulk from column C.
 
2022-12-09 8:12:36 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.


It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.
 
2022-12-09 8:14:50 AM  

gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.


Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing
 
2022-12-09 8:16:59 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing


Wow. She just left the party.

I guess that puts to rest any debate about her intentions.
 
2022-12-09 8:19:12 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing


Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.
 
2022-12-09 8:19:41 AM  
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2022-12-09 8:19:53 AM  
I loved him in Cannonball Run with Terry Bradshaw.
 
2022-12-09 8:19:58 AM  

Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?


Cinnamon Toast Crunch is now an "independent". The story broke an hour or so ago.
 
2022-12-09 8:20:11 AM  
Well if they weren't such sluts they would be at home while their man worked.


What a bunch of damn aholes, hope they all have a medical need and get denied breaks or anything.
 
2022-12-09 8:21:40 AM  
You want to cut down on abortion?

STOP BEING SO DAMN HOSTILE TO EXPECTANT MOTHERS.

Duh.
 
2022-12-09 8:23:15 AM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: You want to cut down on abortion?

STOP BEING SO DAMN HOSTILE TO EXPECTANT MOTHERS.

Duh.


If Republicans want babies so much...maybe they should get out their check books and pay for them.
 
2022-12-09 8:23:50 AM  

aybara: centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing

Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.


The nice thing is she'll be gone in 2024 whether she decides to run or not. If for some reason she decides to run as an independent in order to spoil the Dems chance at her seat, the Dems need to support a Tea Party candidate or some such to run as a fourth to spoil the Republican.
 
2022-12-09 8:26:14 AM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: You want to cut down on abortion?

STOP BEING SO DAMN HOSTILE TO EXPECTANT MOTHERS.

Duh.


We live in Tillis' state. Mrs. F is pregnant right now and says the lack of societal support has been the worst part.
 
2022-12-09 8:26:31 AM  
He doesn't hate women; he loves money and will oppose anything that costs him 1/10 of 1% of revenue.
 
2022-12-09 8:28:02 AM  

gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.


Sinema just switched her party to independent. I'm not joking the farking coont just did that.
 
2022-12-09 8:31:41 AM  
Thom represents NC, and NC has the 7th largest illegal immigrant population. Obviously since North Carolina is on the border with Mexico it makes perfect sense, until you realize that it's not on the border with Mexico. NC's illegal immigrant population is due to pig and chicken production facilities in the state.

Cargill, Tyson, Smithfield and Perdue all advertise heavily in Latin America for jobs in North Carolina. They don't tell the workers how to get to NC, but it's implied that they'll be hired if they can show up. Local police and the industry work hard to control the illegal immigrant population, and any time there's even a whisper of a union forming, raids happen and large chunks of immigrants get deported.

The companies that Thom represents don't want all their pregnant workers to get accommodations because it increases costs and slows down productivity. Also Thom is a farking dipshiat who's considering a run for governor.

The 'h' in his name isn't silent. His name is pronounced as it's spelled, so it doesn't sound like Tom, but rather it's Thom.
 
2022-12-09 8:31:49 AM  

Nick Nostril: aybara: centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing

Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.

The nice thing is she'll be gone in 2024 whether she decides to run or not. If for some reason she decides to run as an independent in order to spoil the Dems chance at her seat, the Dems need to support a Tea Party candidate or some such to run as a fourth to spoil the Republican.


All they need to do is primary her. She's probably about as popular with Dems as overturning Roe. You seem to think that she'll automatically get the nomination.
 
2022-12-09 8:33:03 AM  

holdmybones: This guy is misogyny personified.
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Yeah, but he he claims he has a wife and daughters, so his views are now valid.
 
2022-12-09 8:38:46 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.


Yep. Every bill is considered filibustered by default - it doesn't even make the news anymore.
 
2022-12-09 8:43:03 AM  

stuhayes2010: He doesn't hate women; he loves money and will oppose anything that costs him 1/10 of 1% of revenue.


Both.  He wants to keep his money AND hates women.
 
2022-12-09 8:54:30 AM  

gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.


As a practical matter, eliminating the filibuster in the next Congress does absolutely nothing to help Democrats pass legislation.  The House is GOP controlled and will be though 2024.  Eliminating the filibuster just to have the Senate pass dead-on-arrival (in the House) bills would be a shortsighted.  It would not result in any additional legislative victories - not a single one.  And God forbid the GOP take the Senate in 2024 without the legacy of an intact filibuster to give Democrats at least a bit of leverage!

Don't get me wrong - the filibuster is deeply undemocratic, was born from racism, and should not exist (at least not in its current form).  But eliminating it on 1/1/23 is worse than a pyrrhic victory, it'll end up being an actual setback.  I don't like the situation, but realpolitik dictates not shooting yourself in the foot just so you can hear a gun go off.
 
2022-12-09 9:08:23 AM  

Fireproof: Nick Nostril: aybara: centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing

Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.

The nice thing is she'll be gone in 2024 whether she decides to run or not. If for some reason she decides to run as an independent in order to spoil the Dems chance at her seat, the Dems need to support a Tea Party candidate or some such to run as a fourth to spoil the Republican.

All they need to do is primary her. She's probably about as popular with Dems as overturning Roe. You seem to think that she'll automatically get the nomination.


No, I'm thinking she's the type of person to run third party just to fark the Dems by pulling a few votes away from them. There are a lot of stupid people in this country, evidenced by how many vote for people like Lake and Walker. The Dem side has to have a certain number of those folks in their ranks too.
 
2022-12-09 9:10:06 AM  
Isn't the republican plan to keep women pregnant, out of the workforce and in poverty?

Just because his wife and daughter were lucky enough to go through pregnancies without complications he expects all women to have that same exact experience

$inema and Manchin haven't voted with dems for the past two years - why would they start now?
 
2022-12-09 9:10:23 AM  

Fireproof: Nick Nostril: aybara: centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing

Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.

The nice thing is she'll be gone in 2024 whether she decides to run or not. If for some reason she decides to run as an independent in order to spoil the Dems chance at her seat, the Dems need to support a Tea Party candidate or some such to run as a fourth to spoil the Republican.

All they need to do is primary her. She's probably about as popular with Dems as overturning Roe. You seem to think that she'll automatically get the nomination.


Wait, not primary her, since she'd be a third-part candidate, but why bother with a fourth party?
 
2022-12-09 9:16:02 AM  
So he's one of those assholes? We should stop providing food stamps for the poor because they might be able to get Twinkies or chocolate milk.
 
2022-12-09 9:23:47 AM  

FnkyTwn: Thom represents NC, and NC has the 7th largest illegal immigrant population. Obviously since North Carolina is on the border with Mexico it makes perfect sense, until you realize that it's not on the border with Mexico. NC's illegal immigrant population is due to pig and chicken production facilities in the state.

Cargill, Tyson, Smithfield and Perdue all advertise heavily in Latin America for jobs in North Carolina. They don't tell the workers how to get to NC, but it's implied that they'll be hired if they can show up. Local police and the industry work hard to control the illegal immigrant population, and any time there's even a whisper of a union forming, raids happen and large chunks of immigrants get deported.

The companies that Thom represents don't want all their pregnant workers to get accommodations because it increases costs and slows down productivity. Also Thom is a farking dipshiat who's considering a run for governor.

The 'h' in his name isn't silent. His name is pronounced as it's spelled, so it doesn't sound like Tom, but rather it's Thom.


And come the next Congress, he'll be the sane Senator. Ted Budd is at least as looney as Jesse Helms was.
 
2022-12-09 9:24:46 AM  

aybara: centrifugal bumblepuppy: gilgigamesh: Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.

It only takes 51 to eliminate the senate filibuster. Come January, that needs to be item number 1 on the senate agenda.

The American people just handed the democrats a clear mandate to do it.  The dems would be wise to heed it.

Sinema is now an independent, hasn't said how she's caucusing

Plus she and Manchin have repeatedly said they won't eliminate it.  So a 51 vote majority isn't enough.  Dems needed 52 (VP being tie-breaker) to make up for those two asshats.


You are cute if you think that will be enough. I have 2 Democratic Senators (Carper and Coons) and neither will support getting rid of it. They won't even agree to $15 minimum wage. Now Carper is borderline senile and hopefully doesn't run again but whoever takes his place will probably be the same in terms of ideology.
 
2022-12-09 9:29:54 AM  

Fireproof: However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

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Shouldn't workers be able to just take a sick day or two without clarifying why?
 
2022-12-09 9:36:31 AM  
First Roe v. Wade gets overturned, essentially making women brood mares (depending on the state they live in).

So now that a lot of women are going to be forced to be pregnant against their will, we're not going to do anything to make the experience a little easier (and safer) for them.  Gotcha.

/Republicans really, REALLY hate women
 
2022-12-09 9:43:26 AM  

SharkInfested: Fireproof: However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

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Shouldn't workers be able to just take a sick day or two without clarifying why?


Depends on where you work.

At one place I worked, they required a doctor's note for all sick days, and the doctor's note had to include why you were seen. Now some docs would be willing to shade the truth a touch for you (I never wanted it to list as a followup for my depression issues, so he would write on the note "general medical followup and health maintenance") but not all.
 
2022-12-09 9:56:19 AM  
They say they oppose abortion, but they don't want to help women keep their pregnancies either. Maybe a rider that requires women of childbearing age to wear red gowns and white bonnets would help him feel better about the bill.
 
2022-12-09 9:59:43 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Gooch: I thought the donkeys had the majority. Why are they incapable of steamrolling this guy?

1) It's easier to pass bills when you have unanimous consent to do so - I think it reduces or removes the requirement for debate on the Senate floor.

b) Dunno if you know this, but for the last 15 years or so, it functionally takes 60 Senators (not a majority 51, or 50+the VP) to advance a non-budget bill. Democrats do not have 60 Senators.


Wasn't aware of b). Thanks!
 
2022-12-09 10:00:31 AM  

Vermithrax Perjorative: The cruelty is the point.


I think these turds are opposed to anything that suggests that pregnancy is difficult.  They want to believe that pregnancy is easy and painless.  Hell, it's so easy a girl can do it.  If pregnancy is a burden then
a) it makes women look strong
b) it makes pregnancy look like work
 
2022-12-09 10:11:09 AM  

Fireproof: However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

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Years ago in Ohio there was a public referendum on whether mourning doves should be added to the list of animals that forbidden to hunt.  (Mourning doves mate for life so killing one took the pair out of the breeding pool.)

You would never know that's what the bill was about if you only watched TV ads.  The republicans turned it into kids dying from cancer.  "What's the connection?" you ask. The claim was that this bill would lead to restrictions on using animals for medical research which would lead to your kid dying from cancer.

This was before I understood how farked up the gun lobby was.  Nothing should interfere with your right to shoot whatever you want, whenever you want or your kid will get CANCER!
 
2022-12-09 10:41:20 AM  

Sword and Shield: SharkInfested: Fireproof: However, in its current form, this legislation before us would give federal bureaucrats at the EEOC [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] authority to mandate that employers nationwide provide accommodations such as leave to obtain abortions on demand, under the guise of pregnancy-related conditions."

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Shouldn't workers be able to just take a sick day or two without clarifying why?

Depends on where you work.

At one place I worked, they required a doctor's note for all sick days, and the doctor's note had to include why you were seen. Now some docs would be willing to shade the truth a touch for you (I never wanted it to list as a followup for my depression issues, so he would write on the note "general medical followup and health maintenance") but not all.


That seems like a gross violation of an employee's medical privacy.
 
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