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2022-12-08 11:20:00 PM  
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2022-12-09 2:49:36 AM  
If the queen really insisted on that formality when meeting her future daughter in law in private, that's kind of a dick move.
 
2022-12-09 3:19:48 AM  
Bow to your grandmother-in-law, peasant.
 
2022-12-09 3:20:40 AM  

EvilEgg: If the queen really insisted on that formality when meeting her future daughter in law in private, that's kind of a dick move.


The one thing you can say about Liz is she took her formality really serious. I mean she refused to sit on a prop of the Iron Throne because protocol forbids the Queen of England to sit on the throne of another nation.
 
2022-12-09 7:04:43 AM  
I mean she was the Queen and you were the first Black American in the royal family. Be yourself 100%, what's the worst that could happen?

Oh yeah, get fired.
 
2022-12-09 7:05:08 AM  
The comments are pretty stupid-- Complaining that Megan is being racist for complaining about it.

I didn't know that being British was a 'race'.
 
2022-12-09 7:06:16 AM  
So she wants to be a royal, but only on her own terms.

I thought the rest of them were entitled.
 
2022-12-09 7:13:54 AM  
These two need to stop.  We get it.  The royal family is an ancient relic that still follows old traditions. That includes racism.
That being said, please stop this charade.  You two are still wealthy beyond imagination.  Wealthy enough that Harry could break his royal ties and still live quite comfortably.  A good number of us have family members that disapprove of race mixing in relationships.  I dated an Iranian Muslim for a while, and that didn't go over well at first.  That's why I keep my family at arm's length from my relationships (and my wife is a white, blonde hair green-eyed southerner).
I don't know who is running the PR campaign for these two, but holy sh*t is someone is dropping the ball.
/Also, f*ck Oprah
 
2022-12-09 7:28:01 AM  

NathanAllen: I mean she was the Queen and you were the first Black American in the royal family. Be yourself 100%, what's the worst that could happen?


Regardless of one's background or race or anything, when you meet new people you follow their lead if you want to get along. If everyone defers to Mummy, you do it too. A curtsy is unconventional, but seriously, is it gonna kill ya? Even if you think everyone's playing a joke on you, go along with it and laugh at yourself later. They'll like you for it.

And the ripped jeans and bare feet? Have a bit of respect for the occasion, especially if you're meeting an older person or someone who may be more formal. I have a friend who thinks he's being an individual when he wears old, ripped clothes. When he went to meet his brother's fiancée in one of his usual torn shirts, Mrs Clam gave him grief, that he was giving the impression he didn't care at all.
 
2022-12-09 7:32:05 AM  
I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.
 
2022-12-09 7:43:16 AM  
The only difference between the Royals and the Kardashians is that the Kardashians appear to have some semblance of a work ethic.

And sex tapes, of course.
 
2022-12-09 7:46:53 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.


"Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something. Formal attire used to be required when dining with one's own immediate family, but I'm sure as shiat glad we got rid of that nonsense. Same thing with wigs and powder. Mores change over time because people work against them and finally convince others of how monumentally silly they are.
 
2022-12-09 7:46:56 AM  
I thought they wanted to be left alone.
 
2022-12-09 7:53:05 AM  

Oneiros: The comments are pretty stupid-- Complaining that Megan is being racist for complaining about it.

I didn't know that being British was a 'race'.


They're Norman.

JTtheCajun: "Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something.


Second worst is "You'll get over it."
 
2022-12-09 7:53:52 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.


RFK was a cabinet member, aka his brother's employee. People act different when they're on the clock versus off.
 
2022-12-09 7:53:54 AM  

Ghastly: EvilEgg: If the queen really insisted on that formality when meeting her future daughter in law in private, that's kind of a dick move.

The one thing you can say about Liz is she took her formality really serious. I mean she refused to sit on a prop of the Iron Throne because protocol forbids the Queen of England to sit on the throne of another nation.


So what did she do? Hold it in the entire time she was overseas?
 
2022-12-09 7:57:35 AM  

Oneiros: The comments are pretty stupid-- Complaining that Megan is being racist for complaining about it.

I didn't know that being British was a 'race'.


It is a whiter shade of pale.
 
2022-12-09 8:04:58 AM  

NathanAllen: I mean she was the Queen and you were the first Black American in the royal family. Be yourself 100%, what's the worst that could happen?

Oh yeah, get fired.


Fired from what? The Royal Family doesn't have jobs.

Inbred, taxpayer subsidized, teeth like methed out carnies, Paw-in-law never moved out of Memaw's house, Uncle Andy's a diddler, and Memaw was scared shiatless about how black the grand baby was gonna be.

That deserves the same decorum as a family reunion in Kentucky.
 
2022-12-09 8:06:32 AM  
The Markles are horrible, self indulgent, entitled people.
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And only one wipe per cub.
They don't even have them washed for repeat uses.
They have them ground up and used for fertilizer.
 
2022-12-09 8:10:30 AM  

stoli n coke: Oneiros: The comments are pretty stupid-- Complaining that Megan is being racist for complaining about it.

I didn't know that being British was a 'race'.

It is a whiter shade of pale.


No, that's Irish

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2022-12-09 8:12:04 AM  
I've shown more respect for parents who lived in trailers.  Sort of impressive that you're in a PR snit with the royal family and it's hard to say which side is more entitled.

Either Harry knew these customs and said something, or knew them and didn't say anything.  You're a grown ass man, you're sitting right there, speak up.  Did you send her in oblivious or not?
 
2022-12-09 8:26:42 AM  

JTtheCajun: Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.

"Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something. Formal attire used to be required when dining with one's own immediate family, but I'm sure as shiat glad we got rid of that nonsense. Same thing with wigs and powder. Mores change over time because people work against them and finally convince others of how monumentally silly they are.



A person meeting the Queen of England either bows or curtsies, or stands there looking like an ignorant hillbilly who doesn't belong in that situation.

Someone greeting the President of the United States with "Hey Joe, how's it going?" doesn't come across like some hero of the working class, he looks like a buffoon who doesn't know the protocol.

I'm not Jewish, but at Jewish weddings and funerals I put on a yarmulke. It's a simple show of respect for the situation, and a subtle statement that I'm sophisticated enough to know how things are done in this space even though I don't frequent it.

Clinging to the notion that "I don't gotta do nothin I don't wanna" as a way of ignoring appropriate situational conduct fairly reeks of ignorance and insecurity.
 
2022-12-09 8:27:10 AM  

Ishkur: Ghastly: EvilEgg: If the queen really insisted on that formality when meeting her future daughter in law in private, that's kind of a dick move.

The one thing you can say about Liz is she took her formality really serious. I mean she refused to sit on a prop of the Iron Throne because protocol forbids the Queen of England to sit on the throne of another nation.

So what did she do? Hold it in the entire time she was overseas?


she hovered, got it all over the seat, and made someone else wipe.
 
2022-12-09 8:28:46 AM  

stoli n coke: Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.

RFK was a cabinet member, aka his brother's employee. People act different when they're on the clock versus off.


This took place at an informal lunch setting with a bunch of guys they both knew from childhood. RFK wasn't "on the clock" he just wasn't an ignoramus.
 
2022-12-09 8:29:17 AM  
Why would she curtsey? She's American, she's not a subject, and protocol is that only subjects bow/curtsey. After she married Harry she might have to at public events, but that's just the performative bullshiat that goes with the gig.

Like much of their story (including the part about "we just want to be left alone"), I'm calling bullshiat.
 
2022-12-09 8:31:57 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: JTtheCajun: Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.

"Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something. Formal attire used to be required when dining with one's own immediate family, but I'm sure as shiat glad we got rid of that nonsense. Same thing with wigs and powder. Mores change over time because people work against them and finally convince others of how monumentally silly they are.


A person meeting the Queen of England either bows or curtsies, or stands there looking like an ignorant hillbilly who doesn't belong in that situation.

Someone greeting the President of the United States with "Hey Joe, how's it going?" doesn't come across like some hero of the working class, he looks like a buffoon who doesn't know the protocol.

I'm not Jewish, but at Jewish weddings and funerals I put on a yarmulke. It's a simple show of respect for the situation, and a subtle statement that I'm sophisticated enough to know how things are done in this space even though I don't frequent it.

Clinging to the notion that "I don't gotta do nothin I don't wanna" as a way of ignoring appropriate situational conduct fairly reeks of ignorance and insecurity.


A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.
 
2022-12-09 8:35:30 AM  

stoli n coke: NathanAllen: I mean she was the Queen and you were the first Black American in the royal family. Be yourself 100%, what's the worst that could happen?

Oh yeah, get fired.

Fired from what? The Royal Family doesn't have jobs.

Inbred, taxpayer subsidized, teeth like methed out carnies, Paw-in-law never moved out of Memaw's house, Uncle Andy's a diddler, and Memaw was scared shiatless about how black the grand baby was gonna be.

That deserves the same decorum as a family reunion in Kentucky.


They go hunting, fark their cousins, drink all day, go mudding in SUVs, are racist and hit the government up for money constantly.
 
2022-12-09 8:38:39 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.


And when the President stands, no one sits.

/especially in the People's House
 
2022-12-09 8:39:24 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: A person meeting the Queen of England either bows or curtsies, or stands there looking like an ignorant hillbilly who doesn't belong in that situation.


Nope. Non-subjects may choose to curtsey, but it's considered... not exactly hick-ish, but a sign that you're just copying what others did because you don't know how to act, if a non-subject bored or curtseys. It's a symbol of fealty.

Ordinary gestures of respect, yes. Of course. An American meeting the King should treat him as the would any head of state.  I wouldn't curtsey to Joe Biden, that would look pretentious. Same with a non-subject curtseying to the King.
 
2022-12-09 8:42:29 AM  
EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.

This particular "gracious host" wasn't acting on her own accord, but in her capacity as the Queen of England. Similar to the example of the President, the respect being demonstrated is for the office itself, not the person occupying it.

And a gracious guest who wishes to demonstrate respect should learn what behavior is appropriate and either do what is expected or not place themselves and the host in the awkward situation of having to paper over a clumsy interaction.
 
2022-12-09 8:42:35 AM  
This conversation about Presidential Protocol would have been quite different, say, five years ago.
 
2022-12-09 8:44:48 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.

And when the President stands, no one sits.

/especially in the People's House


"Toby? That's how I beat him."
 
2022-12-09 8:55:43 AM  
Ok, who doesn't know that certain decorum is required when meeting a major head of state?  Would anyone, upon meeting the president, grab him by the shoulder and say, "Hey, Joey, how's it hanging?"
 
2022-12-09 9:00:51 AM  
Why do some people care about the Royal Family? It's not like they're the Kardashians.
 
2022-12-09 9:08:30 AM  

Great_Milenko: Ok, who doesn't know that certain decorum is required when meeting a major head of state?  Would anyone, upon meeting the president, grab him by the shoulder and say, "Hey, Joey, how's it hanging?"


A couple of people in this thread might, and then they'd congratulate themselves for not being bound to outdated modes of purportment.
 
2022-12-09 9:09:27 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Great_Milenko: Ok, who doesn't know that certain decorum is required when meeting a major head of state?  Would anyone, upon meeting the president, grab him by the shoulder and say, "Hey, Joey, how's it hanging?"

A couple of people in this thread might, and then they'd congratulate themselves for not being bound to outdated modes of purportment.


"comportment," goddammit.
 
2022-12-09 9:25:14 AM  
EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.

Its more fun to be a petty vengeful host. If my guests use the wrong utensil on the Vichyssoise they get to enjoy a hour or to in the stocks.
 
2022-12-09 9:35:33 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: JTtheCajun: Barricaded Gunman: I remember a story about how a bunch of JFK's friends came to visit him at the White House early in his presidency, and they were all sitting around the table calling him "Jack" and "John."

When Robert Kennedy arrived, he sat down and said "Good morning, Mr President" to his own brother, and everyone else at the table got quiet as they realized they'd been behaving like hicks.

Standards of decorum exist. Meeting those standards doesn't reduce a person, it shows that that person understands the occasion. Being the guy who refuses to bow when everyone else bows or the guy who addresses a Head of State with inappropriate familiarity doesn't make you look like some kind of rebellious iconoclast, it makes you look like an ignorant yob who doesn't belong.

"Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something. Formal attire used to be required when dining with one's own immediate family, but I'm sure as shiat glad we got rid of that nonsense. Same thing with wigs and powder. Mores change over time because people work against them and finally convince others of how monumentally silly they are.


A person meeting the Queen of England either bows or curtsies, or stands there looking like an ignorant hillbilly who doesn't belong in that situation.

Someone greeting the President of the United States with "Hey Joe, how's it going?" doesn't come across like some hero of the working class, he looks like a buffoon who doesn't know the protocol.

I'm not Jewish, but at Jewish weddings and funerals I put on a yarmulke. It's a simple show of respect for the situation, and a subtle statement that I'm sophisticated enough to know how things are done in this space even though I don't frequent it.

Clinging to the notion that "I don't gotta do nothin I don't wanna" as a way of ignoring appropriate situational conduct fairly reeks of ignorance and insecurity.


Just because I'm ideologically opposed to silly notions of formal actions doesn't mean I'm ignorant of the actions. Following along the silly protocol for fear you might be seen as an "other" is about as insecure as it gets. I'm not an obsequious bootlicker. Hump the crown all you like, but as for me....no gods, no masters.
 
2022-12-09 9:38:27 AM  

darkmayo: EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.

Its more fun to be a petty vengeful host. If my guests use the wrong utensil on the Vichyssoise they get to enjoy a hour or to in the stocks.


May God have mercy on their soul if they taste the finger bowl.
 
2022-12-09 9:48:34 AM  
Shut up. Meg.
 
2022-12-09 9:56:14 AM  

JTtheCajun: Just because I'm ideologically opposed to silly notions of formal actions doesn't mean I'm ignorant of the actions. Following along the silly protocol for fear you might be seen as an "other" is about as insecure as it gets. I'm not an obsequious bootlicker. Hump the crown all you like, but as for me....no gods, no masters.


Eye contact, handshakes, dapping, wai-ing, bowing, curtsying... all of these are just variants of cultural greetings considered appropriate in given situations. Following customs is a show of respect and a declaration that one understands the protocols of the situation.

When I think of a person who hilariously sees themselves as some kind of iconoclastic hero for obtusely ignoring agreed-upon social constructs, I couldn't have possibly come up with a more on-the-nose example than "Hump the crown all you like, but as for me....no gods, no masters."

It sounds like the posturing of a high school dropout trying to sound tough behind 7-11, and it's so goddamn f*cking embarrassing that I'm cringing just from copy/pasting it.
 
2022-12-09 10:08:49 AM  
Mrs. Swine and I have English grandmothers and since The Crown came out, we (especially me) have studied the monarchy as a hobby, going all the way back to Alfred the Great.  I'm puzzled why people have such disdain for people who do so.  It's just history.  I'm not saying we should abandon democracy ffs.  I just think it's interesting.

The whole Harry/Megan thing is definitely a grey area with valid points on both sides.  I still believe that she was the best thing that ever happened to him and that his reasons for getting out of Dodge were all valid.  He saw what was happening to his family, remembered what happened to his mom, saw his wife going down the same mental health path, and stood by his beloved wife at ALL costs.

On the other hand. they're incredibly naïve to ignore protocol like this.  EVERY member of the royal family bows/curtseys to the Queen.  If I remember correctly, they only have to do it the first time they see her that day so if you ever see one of the princesses NOT curtseying, it's because they already did it in private.  Harry KNOWS that.  I understand shielding her from tabloid abuse but there's nothing wrong with following the family traditions like a simple curtsey.  See the RFK protocol/decorum comments above.

Harry is justified in protecting his family and the Royals are justified in feeling betrayed and aghast at the way he went about it.
 
2022-12-09 10:09:37 AM  

FLMountainMan: The only difference between the Royals and the Kardashians is that the Kardashians appear to have some semblance of a work ethic.

And sex tapes, of course.


Elizabeth served as a mechanic in WW2
Harry served as a pilot in Afghanistan

The british royals do not seem to have a work ethic, they actually do have one with their tradition of military service. They are not in the direct line of fire often, but still actively involved.
 
2022-12-09 10:15:41 AM  

Ghastly: EvilEgg: If the queen really insisted on that formality when meeting her future daughter in law in private, that's kind of a dick move.

The one thing you can say about Liz is she took her formality really serious. I mean she refused to sit on a prop of the Iron Throne because protocol forbids the Queen of England to sit on the throne of another nation.


what an utterly pointless way to live
 
2022-12-09 10:16:04 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.
This particular "gracious host" wasn't acting on her own accord, but in her capacity as the Queen of England. Similar to the example of the President, the respect being demonstrated is for the office itself, not the person occupying it.

And a gracious guest who wishes to demonstrate respect should learn what behavior is appropriate and either do what is expected or not place themselves and the host in the awkward situation of having to paper over a clumsy interaction.


At the end of the day, people aren't that different, presidents are sitting around talking about bungholes and getting blowjobs at the office and you're over here saying, "Kneel before him! You should feel honored to have even be looked at by this man."
 
2022-12-09 10:27:13 AM  

JTtheCajun: "Just because it's always been done that way" is probably the worst reason to continue to do something. Formal attire used to be required when dining with one's own immediate family, but I'm sure as shiat glad we got rid of that nonsense. Same thing with wigs and powder. Mores change over time because people work against them and finally convince others of how monumentally silly they are.


Traditions come in 3 basic forms:

Those that are beneficial to maintain
Those that have net negative effects some level.
Those that do not have a net positive or negative effect

No one sane complains about the beneficial traditions, and if they do you can point out the actual benefit and then ask "Do you have a better solution?".

"It has always been done this way" is not a justification for the negative ones, but is for the neutral.

Formal attire for dining is in the net negative camp, is incurs extra costs on cloths and cleaning, and inconveniences people as they have to get changed (wasting time) to eat.

Most rules of decorum, like the curtsying that Megan mentioned, are going to fall into the neutral. Though some will actually be positive like do not blindly hug people who are no open to being hugged (which "huggers" do too often BTW)
 
2022-12-09 10:33:26 AM  

JTtheCajun: Just because I'm ideologically opposed to silly notions of formal actions doesn't mean I'm ignorant of the actions. Following along the silly protocol for fear you might be seen as an "other" is about as insecure as it gets. I'm not an obsequious bootlicker. Hump the crown all you like, but as for me....no gods, no masters.



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2022-12-09 10:38:35 AM  

browntimmy: Barricaded Gunman: EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.
This particular "gracious host" wasn't acting on her own accord, but in her capacity as the Queen of England. Similar to the example of the President, the respect being demonstrated is for the office itself, not the person occupying it.

And a gracious guest who wishes to demonstrate respect should learn what behavior is appropriate and either do what is expected or not place themselves and the host in the awkward situation of having to paper over a clumsy interaction.

At the end of the day, people aren't that different, presidents are sitting around talking about bungholes and getting blowjobs at the office and you're over here saying, "Kneel before him! You should feel honored to have even be looked at by this man."


You sort of *have* to kneel for all the bunghole & blowjob action.
 
2022-12-09 10:45:07 AM  

Naido: browntimmy: Barricaded Gunman: EvilEgg:A gracious host, who actually desires your company, overlooks such breaches and doesn't make a big deal of them.
This particular "gracious host" wasn't acting on her own accord, but in her capacity as the Queen of England. Similar to the example of the President, the respect being demonstrated is for the office itself, not the person occupying it.

And a gracious guest who wishes to demonstrate respect should learn what behavior is appropriate and either do what is expected or not place themselves and the host in the awkward situation of having to paper over a clumsy interaction.

At the end of the day, people aren't that different, presidents are sitting around talking about bungholes and getting blowjobs at the office and you're over here saying, "Kneel before him! You should feel honored to have even be looked at by this man."

You sort of *have* to kneel for all the bunghole & blowjob action.


Not always

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2022-12-09 11:12:39 AM  

browntimmy: At the end of the day, people aren't that different, presidents are sitting around talking about bungholes and getting blowjobs at the office and you're over here saying, "Kneel before him! You should feel honored to have even be looked at by this man."


At the end of the day, being the guy standing awkwardly while everyone else is bowing to the Queen or the guy who calls the President "Joe" doesn't make you look like the bold, devil-may-care individualist that you clearly imagine it does, it makes you look like an insecure poseur who's in over his head because he didn't learn how to properly behave in the situation:

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