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(Mother Jones)   Apparently Supreme Court Court justices have been meeting with lobbyists for quite awhile. Now who would lobby the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas?   (motherjones.com) divider line
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2022-12-08 11:32:51 PM  
Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.
 
2022-12-09 12:17:36 AM  
Court Court?

Is that like Space Court?

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2022-12-09 12:21:26 AM  

eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.


I wish Thomas would continue following Alito's example and die.
 
2022-12-09 4:51:40 AM  
Maybe a justice can write another tearful thinkpiece about how they're not respected as an independent "above politics" judiciary anymore.

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2022-12-09 6:28:46 AM  
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2022-12-09 6:45:50 AM  
People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.
 
2022-12-09 6:46:40 AM  

Nintenfreak: eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.

I wish Thomas would continue following Alito's example and die.


You mean Antonin Scalia?
 
2022-12-09 6:51:06 AM  

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The SCOTUS has to report gifts but is not prevented from receiving them.  I don't think there is an effective or easy way of punishing them if they flaunt bribery.  It's part of the constitution to prevent undermining the court by congress or the POTUS.  Another one is that members of congress can't be arrested for minor crimes.
This is also why only the most qualified ethical people should be placed onto the SCOTUS bench.  We have done the opposite, especially under GWB and #45.
 
2022-12-09 6:51:25 AM  
Since we can't try them without the case ending up in front of them for an immediate dismissal I think we should go trial by stone.

TRIAL BY STONE.

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2022-12-09 6:52:05 AM  
I'm not some fancy-talkin' Harvard-edjeekated lawyer, but I do think that these people ain't exactly above the kind of corrupt muckery that they'd pass judgement on.
 
2022-12-09 6:52:12 AM  

Nintenfreak: eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.

I wish Thomas would continue following Alito's example and die.



You goddamn tease, for a moment there I thought this was about to be an especially great Friday.
 
2022-12-09 6:52:39 AM  

eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.


Not for nothing, but the Bible says not to take a bribe in ANY case (Exodus 23:8) - the common interpretation of "[a gift] perverts the words of the righteous" is that even taking a gift from a party who is "obviously" in the right (or whom you intended to rule in favor of anyway) has the appearance of favoritism and calls the integrity of whole proceedings into question.

Even doing the right thing looks wrong if you act unethically. I wish the conservatives on the Court understood that - and it's weird that jurists can make it to the highest court in the land without that understanding.

// the fact that SCOTUS just keeps redefining political bribery out of existence is totally irrelevant, I'm sure
 
2022-12-09 6:54:54 AM  

Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.


This is why justice needed to be swift with Trump. It wasn't, and we taught the GOP that there are no consequences for their actions. They will continue to openly flaunt the laws until someone is held accountable.

Seriously... Does anyone really believe they will be removed via impeachment?
 
2022-12-09 6:57:16 AM  

Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.


"flouting"
 
2022-12-09 6:58:30 AM  

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Laws and rules don't mean anything if no one is willing or able to enforce them.
 
2022-12-09 6:59:01 AM  
there needs to be a code of ethics for them just like any other judge. why should they have some Star Chamber unlimited privilege to take bribes without oversight?
 
2022-12-09 6:59:08 AM  

AngryTeacher: Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.

This is why justice needed to be swift with Trump. It wasn't, and we taught the GOP that there are no consequences for their actions. They will continue to openly flaunt the laws until someone is held accountable.

Seriously... Does anyone really believe they will be removed via impeachment?


Not just them, all the treasonous scum in congress too.

We've set up the system that if you get into power you can dismantle any checks to your abuse of power.

Laws are just ink on a page unless someone has the will to enforce them.  And we don't.
 
2022-12-09 6:59:21 AM  

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The SCOTUS has to report gifts but is not prevented from receiving them.  I don't think there is an effective or easy way of punishing them if they flaunt bribery.  It's part of the constitution to prevent undermining the court by congress or the POTUS.  Another one is that members of congress can't be arrested for minor crimes.
This is also why only the most qualified ethical people should be placed onto the SCOTUS bench.  We have done the opposite, especially under GWB and #45.


"FLOUT!"
 
2022-12-09 7:01:09 AM  

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Unfortunately the SC has said bribery only applies if one party says "I am bribing you". Otherwise it's "free speech".
 
2022-12-09 7:01:11 AM  
I cannot think of any society anywhere in human history that survived a corrupt legal system.
They all failed.
All.
Of.
Them.
Took a while for some of those cultures to collapse, but eventually it for them as well.
Once everyone in a given culture understands that the laws are entirely arbitrary....well go and do some research for yourselves.
 
2022-12-09 7:02:55 AM  
 
2022-12-09 7:05:43 AM  

Hobodeluxe: there needs to be a code of ethics for them just like any other judge. why should they have some Star Chamber unlimited privilege to take bribes without oversight?


There is a code of ethics but they realized they aren't bound by them because there's no enforcement.

There's always a loophole.  There's always a gotcha.   The "standards" for enforcement are so high they can't be reached; look at all the mumbling about "the most bigly airtightness" required to even indict TFG:  there are no specifics tied to it - just a concept that it has to be really really really really really airtight, allowing the feckless - when prodded - to say "nope not enough" forever, thereby avoiding their own
accountability as well.
 
2022-12-09 7:07:00 AM  

AngryTeacher: Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.

This is why justice needed to be swift with Trump. It wasn't, and we taught the GOP that there are no consequences for their actions. They will continue to openly flaunt the laws until someone is held accountable.

Seriously... Does anyone really believe they will be removed via impeachment?


GODDAMMIT!!!
 
2022-12-09 7:08:31 AM  
I'm pretty sure if any other judge accepted bribes from "concerned organizations" there'd be chaos as every case they handled was called into question.
 
2022-12-09 7:09:20 AM  
The Federalist Society delenda est.
 
2022-12-09 7:10:57 AM  
Money for nothing, chiks for free...
Ahh, the good life..
 
2022-12-09 7:12:07 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.

"flouting"


They're flaunting the corruption, they're flouting the corruption laws.
 
2022-12-09 7:12:30 AM  

hardinparamedic: I'm pretty sure if any other judge accepted bribes from "concerned organizations" there'd be chaos as every case they handled was called into question.


Once everyone in the country understands that SCOTUS really IS for sale to the highest bidder, that's when this country will see some very serious ripple effects.
Actually, we really only need a critical mass of angry people. It won't require EVERYONE, just a large enough number of people who honestly believe that laws don't matter anymore.
 
2022-12-09 7:18:04 AM  
Christ.  Save the Sinema nonsense for an upcoming thread.  There will be plenty of time to make sexist comments then.
Anywho, it's getting to the point where SCOTUS needs to be ignored.  You can't just strip basic rights from people and expect to survive as an institution.  Eventually, level-headed states will say "Ok.  You want to strip abortion/marriage right from people while giving Americans unregulated access to firearms?  Well, we're going to pass our own laws.  Try to stop us".  It always starts with California.  That will create a ripple effect across the nation.
 
2022-12-09 7:25:04 AM  

Weaver95: hardinparamedic: I'm pretty sure if any other judge accepted bribes from "concerned organizations" there'd be chaos as every case they handled was called into question.

Once everyone in the country understands that SCOTUS really IS for sale to the highest bidder, that's when this country will see some very serious ripple effects.
Actually, we really only need a critical mass of angry people. It won't require EVERYONE, just a large enough number of people who honestly believe that laws don't matter anymore.


The right people already knew they were open for business.
 
2022-12-09 7:29:39 AM  
Thank the heaven almighty God, wonderful counselor, Prince of Peace that we don't live in a theocracy.

Amirite?
 
2022-12-09 7:30:06 AM  

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Remove them, and the GOP will kick and scream and drag their heels to obstruct until Desantis gets to replace them with 30 year old Groypers.
 
2022-12-09 7:38:03 AM  
Find a crime
 
2022-12-09 7:39:10 AM  
I would defund their security attachments; let the lobbyists spring for their bodyguards.
 
2022-12-09 7:55:59 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: AngryTeacher: Weaver95: People are already mad as hell at the conservatives wing of SCOTUS. Openly flaunting the corruption and taking bribes in exchange for favorable decisions *never* ends well. For anyone. Ever.

This is why justice needed to be swift with Trump. It wasn't, and we taught the GOP that there are no consequences for their actions. They will continue to openly flaunt the laws until someone is held accountable.

Seriously... Does anyone really believe they will be removed via impeachment?

GODDAMMIT!!!


Sorry....  I was only on my first cup of coffee, but that's no excuse.  I should of known better. I'll go sit in my corner now.

(I know....have...  I only added that to be annoying.)
 
2022-12-09 8:02:52 AM  
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2022-12-09 8:16:04 AM  
"The context of that was what we had been dong at the court for at that stage nearly 17 years."

The bribes and the lobbying I knew about. But this is news.
 
2022-12-09 9:15:04 AM  
Banana republic.
 
2022-12-09 9:19:52 AM  

thehobbes: Glitchwerks: puffy999: Sinema the **** just went independent

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For the thread on that.

I'm surprised she didn't go Republican.  I guess that would have been too obvious.

She wants committee assignments.

This puts us back at de facto 50+1 as quirky does what quirky does. 

Congrats centrists.


Sinema is entirely due to the voters of AZ. nobody else was involved.
 
2022-12-09 9:30:20 AM  

eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.


Which really illustrates the "two tiered" set of rules and regs that exists in this country. Government employees I (may or may not) work with can't accept shiat from a contractor without disclosing it, and if over a nominal amount, simply cannot accept it at all. These guys get perks in the 7 figures and, well, no problem, nothing to see here, move along.

Yet another sign this country is on the way out.
 
2022-12-09 9:31:29 AM  

Fereals: Banana republic.


And they simply don't care who knows it.
 
2022-12-09 10:57:32 AM  

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"FLOUT!"

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2022-12-09 11:14:07 AM  
Dishonest and willfully corrupt mother#$kers.

That is what we have here on the supreme court.

Now, imagine the assholes that are judges on lower courts.
 
2022-12-09 11:36:47 AM  
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2022-12-09 11:55:27 AM  
Well duh, the SCOTUS has been bought and paid for at least for a few decades now. The Citizen's United decision certainly didn't happen in a vacuum...
 
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2022-12-09 1:06:18 PM  
You don't lobby judges, you lobby politicians. The current Supreme Court is an illegitimate political body due to it's corrupt leadership and majority.
 
2022-12-09 1:18:31 PM  

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The SCOTUS has to report gifts but is not prevented from receiving them.  I don't think there is an effective or easy way of punishing them if they flaunt bribery.  It's part of the constitution to prevent undermining the court by congress or the POTUS.  Another one is that members of congress can't be arrested for minor crimes.
This is also why only the most qualified ethical people should be placed onto the SCOTUS bench.  We have done the opposite, especially under GWB and #45.

"FLOUT!"


I'm not Britich.
 
2022-12-09 1:47:50 PM  

Northern: Nintenfreak: eurotrader: Alito was given over a million dollars in gifts that he never disclosed and that is just for over 100 hunting vacations all expense paid.

I wish Thomas would continue following Alito's example and die.

You mean Antonin Scalia?


All of them
 
2022-12-09 1:57:54 PM  
"Schenck's revelations have further punctured the illusion that the justices are above the political fray"
All the smart people have known this was BS for decades.....
 
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