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(Ars Technica)   Google: "Everything at Waze is fine". Translation: Waze is doomed, will be merged in with Google Maps, and later recreated as a messaging app called Google Streets   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2022-12-08 5:49:33 PM  
Google Streets will allow you to chat only with random strangers who are heading to the same destination as you so that you can meet awkwardly when you all get there.
 
2022-12-08 6:36:34 PM  
Haven't they been the most deleted app every year for pretty much ever?
 
2022-12-08 6:49:03 PM  
24 years later and people can't find the step 2 before they sink billions into step 1.
 
2022-12-08 6:52:56 PM  

HugeMistake: Google Streets will allow you to chat only with random strangers who are heading to the same destination as you so that you can meet awkwardly when you all get there.


So does Waze.
 
2022-12-08 6:54:36 PM  

mcreadyblue: HugeMistake: Google Streets will allow you to chat only with random strangers who are heading to the same destination as you so that you can meet awkwardly when you all get there.

So does Waze.


That's literally what the headline says.
 
2022-12-08 6:55:50 PM  

azwethnkweiz: Haven't they been the most deleted app every year for pretty much ever?


Can confirm. I kept re installing it, thinking it might now finally actually be as good as its fans say but I keep deleting it shortly after.
 
2022-12-08 6:58:49 PM  
The former CEO's exit post is a good read. He's a no-nonsense guy so it makes sense that Google wasn't a good fit for him, even if it could have done some good things for Waze (narrator: it didn't)
 
2022-12-08 7:09:08 PM  
I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.
 
2022-12-08 7:20:25 PM  
Aw man NNNOOO!
 
2022-12-08 7:25:13 PM  

Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.


Dang. Mirroring my nav app to the huge screen in the middle of the dash is like 60% of why I even have a smartphone.
 
2022-12-08 7:28:21 PM  

Kar98: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Dang. Mirroring my nav app to the huge screen in the middle of the dash is like 60% of why I even have a smartphone.


I wish I could do that.  My infotainment system doesn't support mirroring.
 
2022-12-08 7:32:43 PM  

Muta: Kar98: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Dang. Mirroring my nav app to the huge screen in the middle of the dash is like 60% of why I even have a smartphone.

I wish I could do that.  My infotainment system doesn't support mirroring.


Tesla? Or a old ass Dodge Aries?
 
2022-12-08 7:41:18 PM  

Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.


Um, why not use Google Maps?
 
2022-12-08 7:55:45 PM  
It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against
 
2022-12-08 7:56:38 PM  

iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against


other apps at the same time, and Waze is nowhere near accurate. The drive is approximately 80 miles.
 
2022-12-08 8:04:49 PM  

iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against


How so? I find that it assumes you're going to drive over the speed limit on highways by 10pm, and seems to under estimate how long it can take to get through an intersection with heavy traffic. Google maps seems to be the opposite. It assumes you'll strictly drive the limit and over estimates how much traffic will slow you down.
 
2022-12-08 8:09:15 PM  

OhioUGrad: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Um, why not use Google Maps?


I don't like how google maps will change my route to save any amount of time. I'd like the option to stick to main roads and not change the route I specify initially. I do like the map and how know what lane to be in to get to the next road.
 
2022-12-08 8:36:23 PM  
tedthebellhopp:
I don't like how google maps will change my route to save any amount of time. I'd like the option to stick to main roads and not change the route I specify initially.

Apple Maps did that to me a few months back. At 10 at night, it did not save any time, and in fact took longer taking back-highways.

/Was cool seeing horse-drawn buggies...
//All lit up, at night, in the rain...
///Farking terrifying.
 
2022-12-08 8:57:39 PM  
I drive about 175 miles a day around the Houston area, from auto repair shop to auto repair shop.  My nav app is probably my most used app on my work phone.

The only time I ever used Waze for more than a few days was after Harvey because Waze seemed to update quicker on road closures & reopening from the flooding.  Aside from that I probably installed/uninstalled it a dozen times, maybe two- days use at a time.

I just found their map graphics to be way too "cutesy" and the business advertising to be way too intrusive.  Google Maps graphics just look a lot more like...well, a map.
 
2022-12-08 9:08:51 PM  
Two things that piss me off about Waze, and I say this as a user with the rank of 1185.

One:  cutting corners.  The app constantly wants me to make a right on a back street then another right onto the main road when staying on the main road doesn't cost any time.

Addresses. Seems that a bunch of right wingers PO'd about e911 got ahold of the editing and created a bunch of areas named after CDPs, and townships.  Meaning that when I type in an address it comes back with a different city name and I have to go look at another map to find out if it's right or not.
 
2022-12-08 9:16:34 PM  

iron_city_ap: iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against

other apps at the same time, and Waze is nowhere near accurate. The drive is approximately 80 miles.


I use Waze daily on my commute, and it's usually within a minute or two of accuracy. It is less accurate the longer the drive, so when I do my DC to Ohio drive to see the family, it is usually off by an hour. I'm not sure that's entirely fair to the app, though, because I stop all the time to pee, because I have the bladder of a three year-old.
 
2022-12-08 9:19:33 PM  

Goimir: Two things that piss me off about Waze, and I say this as a user with the rank of 1185.

One:  cutting corners.  The app constantly wants me to make a right on a back street then another right onto the main road when staying on the main road doesn't cost any time.

Addresses. Seems that a bunch of right wingers PO'd about e911 got ahold of the editing and created a bunch of areas named after CDPs, and townships.  Meaning that when I type in an address it comes back with a different city name and I have to go look at another map to find out if it's right or not.


What's a CDP? I noticed back when I used TomTom 20 years ago, some overzealous map editors added settlement names from a hundred years ago which nobody alive uses and you can only find in local history books.
 
2022-12-08 9:20:48 PM  

Kar98: Goimir: Two things that piss me off about Waze, and I say this as a user with the rank of 1185.

One:  cutting corners.  The app constantly wants me to make a right on a back street then another right onto the main road when staying on the main road doesn't cost any time.

Addresses. Seems that a bunch of right wingers PO'd about e911 got ahold of the editing and created a bunch of areas named after CDPs, and townships.  Meaning that when I type in an address it comes back with a different city name and I have to go look at another map to find out if it's right or not.

What's a CDP? I noticed back when I used TomTom 20 years ago, some overzealous map editors added settlement names from a hundred years ago which nobody alive uses and you can only find in local history books.


Census Designated Place
 
2022-12-08 9:29:59 PM  
Google maps could have changed itself to integrate all the features people liked about Waze and then declared victory, announced a shutdown integration and moved on. Google could have also kept both maps and Waze moving along separate and used their different clientele to better target ads etc. or Google could have not bought Waze in the first place. This fourth option is the dumbest one of all. Buy Waze with no plan, screw around for a few years running both simultaneously with no long term or short term plan, then start the move to shutter Waze without putting any of its best features into Maps and basically flush all that money down the toilet. And some other new company will fill that gap just like Waze did, to offer options and features Maps does not.
 
2022-12-08 9:35:54 PM  

cefm: Google maps could have changed itself to integrate all the features people liked about Waze and then declared victory, announced a shutdown integration and moved on. Google could have also kept both maps and Waze moving along separate and used their different clientele to better target ads etc. or Google could have not bought Waze in the first place. This fourth option is the dumbest one of all. Buy Waze with no plan, screw around for a few years running both simultaneously with no long term or short term plan, then start the move to shutter Waze without putting any of its best features into Maps and basically flush all that money down the toilet. And some other new company will fill that gap just like Waze did, to offer options and features Maps does not.


I don't think Google Maps could afford to spend the political capital adding warnings for cops would entail.
 
2022-12-08 9:39:07 PM  

Lsherm: iron_city_ap: iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against

other apps at the same time, and Waze is nowhere near accurate. The drive is approximately 80 miles.

I use Waze daily on my commute, and it's usually within a minute or two of accuracy. It is less accurate the longer the drive, so when I do my DC to Ohio drive to see the family, it is usually off by an hour. I'm not sure that's entirely fair to the app, though, because I stop all the time to pee, because I have the bladder of a three year-old.


There's an option to customise your eta based on your driving habits.  It's handy for me as about half my waze miles are in an f550 which weighs in around 19k lbs, and the other half are in a mitsubishi mirage with a whole 72 cubic inches of displacement.

So my ETAs are a bit on the conservative side.
 
2022-12-08 9:46:41 PM  

Goimir: cefm: Google maps could have changed itself to integrate all the features people liked about Waze and then declared victory, announced a shutdown integration and moved on. Google could have also kept both maps and Waze moving along separate and used their different clientele to better target ads etc. or Google could have not bought Waze in the first place. This fourth option is the dumbest one of all. Buy Waze with no plan, screw around for a few years running both simultaneously with no long term or short term plan, then start the move to shutter Waze without putting any of its best features into Maps and basically flush all that money down the toilet. And some other new company will fill that gap just like Waze did, to offer options and features Maps does not.

I don't think Google Maps could afford to spend the political capital adding warnings for cops would entail.


I get "speed trap ahead" warnings in Maps all the time. Have for years. It used to freak my son out when he was younger, thinking we were going to get pulled over just because. I always assumed they came from Waze users.
 
2022-12-08 10:17:59 PM  

tedthebellhopp: OhioUGrad: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Um, why not use Google Maps?

I don't like how google maps will change my route to save any amount of time. I'd like the option to stick to main roads and not change the route I specify initially. I do like the map and how know what lane to be in to get to the next road.


I believe you can edit that ability in settings and you can dismiss things if it tries to change your route
 
2022-12-08 10:46:54 PM  

Kar98: mcreadyblue: HugeMistake: Google Streets will allow you to chat only with random strangers who are heading to the same destination as you so that you can meet awkwardly when you all get there.

So does Waze.

That's literally what the headline says.


Huh?
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2022-12-08 11:09:08 PM  

thornhill: iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against

How so? I find that it assumes you're going to drive over the speed limit on highways by 10pm, and seems to under estimate how long it can take to get through an intersection with heavy traffic. Google maps seems to be the opposite. It assumes you'll strictly drive the limit and over estimates how much traffic will slow you down.



I was checking google maps to see how traffic was before I left the other day.  It showed the intersection on the corner of my block as orange.  The one I can clearly see from my front window.  The 4 way stop with no traffic at all.
 
2022-12-08 11:11:35 PM  
That was a deliciously saucy article. Well-written and sarcastic. More of this!
 
2022-12-08 11:12:09 PM  
I've used Waze for 9 years and it's saved me a few tickets I'm sure. I only wish iat had customizable hotspots on the right and left of the display. Maybe two per side which you can set to your most-used reports. Vehicle stopped & cop, for example. Tap right side or left side as needed. Save like 20 or 30 taps for common reports.

I liked the Pac-Man display back when my neighborhood was being built and there were lots of new roads. In the early days I would intentionally take detours to hoover up any un-verified streets. Because I'm a damn nerd.
 
2022-12-08 11:16:01 PM  
Employee: So you are saying that our app isn't going to be merged into Google Maps.

Google CEO: No Waze, that's going to happen.
 
2022-12-08 11:23:26 PM  

Chajeungna: I've used Waze for 9 years and it's saved me a few tickets I'm sure. I only wish iat had customizable hotspots on the right and left of the display. Maybe two per side which you can set to your most-used reports. Vehicle stopped & cop, for example. Tap right side or left side as needed. Save like 20 or 30 taps for common reports.

I liked the Pac-Man display back when my neighborhood was being built and there were lots of new roads. In the early days I would intentionally take detours to hoover up any un-verified streets. Because I'm a damn nerd.


Same. I recently hit the 10 year mark. I enjoy the app for the most part. My main gripe is when I go into a cell signal dead zone for an extended time (which is common around here), the app can't reconnect without being shut down and restarted.
My other minor gripe is if a report on, say, 2 cars on the side of the road .49 miles apart, they will be considered the same car.
 
2022-12-08 11:35:18 PM  

HugeMistake: Google Streets will allow you to chat only with random strangers who are heading to the same destination as you so that you can meet awkwardly when you all get there.


Now that's streets ahead thinking.
 
2022-12-08 11:42:44 PM  
Waze was the absolute best. Traffic info, police activity, decent routing, etc....now, not so much. It's still great for traffic avoidance, and FAR superior to Google in that regard, so seeing them go away is just downright depressing.
Back to sitting in traffic, I guess. Thanks, Google, for ruining another convenience.
 
2022-12-08 11:45:41 PM  

cefm: Google maps could have changed itself to integrate all the features people liked about Waze and then declared victory, announced a shutdown integration and moved on. Google could have also kept both maps and Waze moving along separate and used their different clientele to better target ads etc. or Google could have not bought Waze in the first place. This fourth option is the dumbest one of all. Buy Waze with no plan, screw around for a few years running both simultaneously with no long term or short term plan, then start the move to shutter Waze without putting any of its best features into Maps and basically flush all that money down the toilet. And some other new company will fill that gap just like Waze did, to offer options and features Maps does not.


All the worthwhile features from Waze already got added to Maps. The only thing that's left that didn't make it is what? Methed-up truckers reporting things that don't exist and ads for Dunkin' Donuts?
 
2022-12-08 11:50:03 PM  

tedthebellhopp: OhioUGrad: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Um, why not use Google Maps?

I don't like how google maps will change my route to save any amount of time. I'd like the option to stick to main roads and not change the route I specify initially. I do like the map and how know what lane to be in to get to the next road.


This is such a dumb blind spot for Maps... I'm on my motorcycle with earbud navigation and it's constantly changing my route in the middle of a highway

Even on the car it sucks because they won't take no for an answer. Decline the new route and they'll keep asking every 3 minutes. No means no Google

Quite the trend with tech nowadays. Like Reddit nagging to use their app every time you visit the mobile site. They used let you turn off the request, but not any more. They KNOW you don't want to use it, and don't want to be asked, but they're going to keep asking and try to wear you down, pretty rapey if you ask me
 
2022-12-09 3:30:58 AM  

SBinRR: Chajeungna: I've used Waze for 9 years and it's saved me a few tickets I'm sure. I only wish iat had customizable hotspots on the right and left of the display. Maybe two per side which you can set to your most-used reports. Vehicle stopped & cop, for example. Tap right side or left side as needed. Save like 20 or 30 taps for common reports.

I liked the Pac-Man display back when my neighborhood was being built and there were lots of new roads. In the early days I would intentionally take detours to hoover up any un-verified streets. Because I'm a damn nerd.

Same. I recently hit the 10 year mark. I enjoy the app for the most part. My main gripe is when I go into a cell signal dead zone for an extended time (which is common around here), the app can't reconnect without being shut down and restarted.
My other minor gripe is if a report on, say, 2 cars on the side of the road .49 miles apart, they will be considered the same car.


Mine (as someone that likes Waze):
1. When stuck in backup for a major intersection don't have me cut through the neighborhood to bypass the backup only to attempt a left on the artery that is the crossroad in that intersection, now without benefit of a light
2. Do not take an alternate route through our most violent neighborhoods where driving a well cared for car puts a target on you. The highway is fine
 
2022-12-09 5:50:07 AM  
I learned I can't let Chrysler's navigation reroute me for anything less than 20 minutes of delays, from the time it kept bringing me back to a flooded out intersection in the dark.

/bio is..."historical"
//now I'm a dad with a minivan
 
2022-12-09 6:19:31 AM  

Kar98: Muta: Kar98: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Dang. Mirroring my nav app to the huge screen in the middle of the dash is like 60% of why I even have a smartphone.

I wish I could do that.  My infotainment system doesn't support mirroring.

Tesla? Or a old ass Dodge Aries?


2017 Subaru Outback.
 
2022-12-09 6:41:49 AM  

OhioUGrad: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Um, why not use Google Maps?


Because Google is tracking me when I use their map app. That's why I love Apple maps. You know you are safe from being tracked.
 
2022-12-09 6:53:13 AM  
I use Waze over the others mainly due to the crowdsourced hazard warnings. Speed cameras, police warnings, road closures, potholes, crashes, etc.  

Other useful features include the ability to quickly glance at the expected flow of traffic (below), getting essentially a loading bar that pops up when I hit a slowdown, easily adding stops along the way, low power consumption, and a simple interface that is conducive to driving without distraction.

I don't care to learn a new interface. Google Maps has always been an energy hog - I've had it slowly suck my battery dry, even while connected to power on a long trip.  

Frankly, at this point, Apple Maps has a better interface (K.I.S.S.) and integration with Siri for use as a driving GPS.  If the user reporting goes away, I'll switch to Apple Maps as my primary GPS.  

/I didn't use it as much before moving to the DMV
//usefulness/accuracy is based on how many others use it
///needs better "avoid unprotected left turn" programming

/Israelis are crafty - they WILL create another Waze if the niche claimed by Waze is abandoned.
 
2022-12-09 8:37:08 AM  

BlazeTrailer: Mine (as someone that likes Waze):
1. When stuck in backup for a major intersection don't have me cut through the neighborhood to bypass the backup only to attempt a left on the artery that is the crossroad in that intersection, now without benefit of a light


Yeah I use Waze all the time, and this is one of my peeves with it too. I thought there used to be a setting "Reduce difficult left turns" or something like that, but now I can only find "Avoid difficult intersections." Not sure if it's the same thing.
 
2022-12-09 8:54:03 AM  

tedthebellhopp: OhioUGrad: Muta: I switched to Waze after Android Auto discontinued their mobile app.  It's alright.

Um, why not use Google Maps?

I don't like how google maps will change my route to save any amount of time. I'd like the option to stick to main roads and not change the route I specify initially. I do like the map and how know what lane to be in to get to the next road.


Yeah that's one reason not to touch Google maps. I don't want to suddenly reroute because it thinks it shaved 45 seconds by having me take a left turn onto a busy road and then a slalom through some residential neighborhood
 
2022-12-09 8:55:48 AM  

Lsherm: iron_city_ap: iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against

other apps at the same time, and Waze is nowhere near accurate. The drive is approximately 80 miles.

I use Waze daily on my commute, and it's usually within a minute or two of accuracy. It is less accurate the longer the drive, so when I do my DC to Ohio drive to see the family, it is usually off by an hour. I'm not sure that's entirely fair to the app, though, because I stop all the time to pee, because I have the bladder of a three year-old.


Yes, Waze seems spot on for me. I'm in the DC area so who knows. It seems to be the best for rerouting due to traffic.
 
2022-12-09 8:58:44 AM  

BlazeTrailer: SBinRR: Chajeungna: I've used Waze for 9 years and it's saved me a few tickets I'm sure. I only wish iat had customizable hotspots on the right and left of the display. Maybe two per side which you can set to your most-used reports. Vehicle stopped & cop, for example. Tap right side or left side as needed. Save like 20 or 30 taps for common reports.

I liked the Pac-Man display back when my neighborhood was being built and there were lots of new roads. In the early days I would intentionally take detours to hoover up any un-verified streets. Because I'm a damn nerd.

Same. I recently hit the 10 year mark. I enjoy the app for the most part. My main gripe is when I go into a cell signal dead zone for an extended time (which is common around here), the app can't reconnect without being shut down and restarted.
My other minor gripe is if a report on, say, 2 cars on the side of the road .49 miles apart, they will be considered the same car.

Mine (as someone that likes Waze):
1. When stuck in backup for a major intersection don't have me cut through the neighborhood to bypass the backup only to attempt a left on the artery that is the crossroad in that intersection, now without benefit of a light
2. Do not take an alternate route through our most violent neighborhoods where driving a well cared for car puts a target on you. The highway is fine


This this this this
 
2022-12-09 9:00:39 AM  

Fano: Lsherm: iron_city_ap: iron_city_ap: It would be nice if Waze's ETA was remotely accurate. I will run it against

other apps at the same time, and Waze is nowhere near accurate. The drive is approximately 80 miles.

I use Waze daily on my commute, and it's usually within a minute or two of accuracy. It is less accurate the longer the drive, so when I do my DC to Ohio drive to see the family, it is usually off by an hour. I'm not sure that's entirely fair to the app, though, because I stop all the time to pee, because I have the bladder of a three year-old.

Yes, Waze seems spot on for me. I'm in the DC area so who knows. It seems to be the best for rerouting due to traffic.


Waze seems spot on for me in the DMV as well.  I suspect Waze requires a certain critical mass of users in the locale to be truly effective.
 
2022-12-09 11:31:40 AM  
so you are saying that going forward Waze is going to be
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2022-12-09 11:31:41 AM  
So Waze is just going to be a reskin of Google Maps. Got it.
 
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