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2022-12-08 3:47:50 PM  
He is the reason why historically, peasants rise up and do unspeakable things to their wealthy oppressors.
 
2022-12-08 3:52:26 PM  
 
2022-12-08 5:04:16 PM  
Those employees will be soon filing lawsuits and getting some cash.
That's the only reason they haven't quit.
Probably talking to lawyers already, actually.
Unless they are really stupid.
 
2022-12-08 5:04:26 PM  

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2022-12-08 5:04:52 PM  
Give him a year and he'll be paying his employees in MuskBucks, his own crypto-currency.
 
2022-12-08 5:04:59 PM  
This is to create some Twitter profit under his watch.  Know how much a hotel room in San Francisco costs this time of year?  More than $8
 
2022-12-08 5:06:48 PM  
Don't read the comments Ray.
 
2022-12-08 5:06:57 PM  

Lambskincoat: He is the reason why historically, peasants rise up and do unspeakable things to their wealthy oppressors.


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2022-12-08 5:08:01 PM  
This has been all over the BBC for a day, but this link gets greened today. I don't get it.
 
2022-12-08 5:08:05 PM  
Eliminating their commuting costs, too.
 
2022-12-08 5:08:53 PM  
What else is he supposed to do with all that space now they half his workforce was fired or quit?
 
2022-12-08 5:08:59 PM  
I bet each and every single one of those employees who opted to stay rather than take the severance package when it was offered is sorely regretting their poor life choice now

They now find themselves obligated to put in 80+ hour weeks for a mercurial megalomaniac who will fire people on a whim and will now be expected to spend 24/7 of their lives working in Twitter HQ, meaning the can kiss their friends, family and any sense of a normal life goodbye ... all for the same salary they had before with only the BS pinky swear Musk made of "rewarding outstanding work", whatever the fark that means

The City of SF should send in a crises team, I suspect many employees are weighing suicide at this point
 
2022-12-08 5:09:29 PM  
 https://youtu.be/MTCen9-RELM
 
2022-12-08 5:09:56 PM  
Just saying, if someone snapped I couldn't find them guilty.
 
2022-12-08 5:10:38 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: I bet each and every single one of those employees who opted to stay rather than take the severance package when it was offered is sorely regretting their poor life choice now

They now find themselves obligated to put in 80+ hour weeks for a mercurial megalomaniac who will fire people on a whim and will now be expected to spend 24/7 of their lives working in Twitter HQ, meaning the can kiss their friends, family and any sense of a normal life goodbye ... all for the same salary they had before with only the BS pinky swear Musk made of "rewarding outstanding work", whatever the fark that means

The City of SF should send in a crises team, I suspect many employees are weighing suicide at this point


Just remember your coworkers aren't your enemy, thats the guy at the room with the whip.
 
2022-12-08 5:10:41 PM  

doctorguilty: This has been all over the BBC for a day, but this link gets greened today. I don't get it.


I think it was greened 2-3 days ago here.
 
2022-12-08 5:11:03 PM  
Is it ok if I bring chicks "home"?
 
2022-12-08 5:11:26 PM  
These tech assholes are already trying to bring back scrip and company towns. Like, this is a thing they've already been trying to do.
 
2022-12-08 5:11:28 PM  
At what point do workers rights get invoked?

This should be illegal no matter what they're getting paid.
 
2022-12-08 5:11:38 PM  

Meatsim1: What else is he supposed to do with all that space now they half his workforce was fired or quit?


House the homeless and pay theme to shiatpost on twitter?
 
2022-12-08 5:12:15 PM  
Looks like slightly better accommodations than some of my colleagues got when the government in China locked them in the office for COVID quarantine. Keep that in mind when deciding if you want to be working for Elmo when the next pandemic happens.
 
2022-12-08 5:12:30 PM  
What is everyone complaining about, at least he isn't locking the doors from the outside yet.
 
2022-12-08 5:13:09 PM  

maxandgrinch: doctorguilty: This has been all over the BBC for a day, but this link gets greened today. I don't get it.

I think it was greened 2-3 days ago here.


I think it's because the city is getting into it today. Zoning seems to be another in a long list of words Elon doesn't know.
 
2022-12-08 5:13:21 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: I bet each and every single one of those employees who opted to stay rather than take the severance package when it was offered is sorely regretting their poor life choice now

They now find themselves obligated to put in 80+ hour weeks for a mercurial megalomaniac who will fire people on a whim and will now be expected to spend 24/7 of their lives working in Twitter HQ, meaning the can kiss their friends, family and any sense of a normal life goodbye ... all for the same salary they had before with only the BS pinky swear Musk made of "rewarding outstanding work", whatever the fark that means

The City of SF should send in a crises team, I suspect many employees are weighing suicide at this point


I'm betting most of the employees who have stayed are on work visas that would make it incredibly difficult to leave.
 
2022-12-08 5:14:16 PM  
How many people outraged about this online still have twitter accounts? Put your money where your mouth is.

Delete. That. Shiat.
 
2022-12-08 5:14:33 PM  
...honestly, I work in my basement "office/tv room" and sleep there many nights.  This would be an upgrade for me.

Downgrade for everyone else in the building that has to deal with my snoring, but I told you I was hardcore.
 
2022-12-08 5:14:47 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "rewarding outstanding work", whatever the fark that means


Come on, you know what it means.  That's corporate tool-speak for "no raises unless you're personally responsible for completely revolutionizing the company."
 
2022-12-08 5:15:00 PM  

Russ1642: Give him a year and he'll be paying his employees in MuskBucks, his own crypto-currency.


Some people say that work can be fun
Here's a billionaire's workers never seein' the sun
Coding and working fingers to the bone
A back that's weak and a stench thats strong

One dumb Musk, and what do you get
Sleeping on a couch, not hardcore yet
Honey don't call me cuz I can't go
Livin' at work I'll never be home

/got nothin
 
2022-12-08 5:15:06 PM  

Begoggle: Those employees will be soon filing lawsuits and getting some cash.
That's the only reason they haven't quit.
Probably talking to lawyers already, actually.
Unless they are really stupid.


Do you even H1B bro?

A citizen/permanent resident quits or is sacked, they need to find a job or they'll be out of money.

A non permanent resident quits or gets sacked, they have 60 days to find employment with a company that is able to sponsor a nonresident visa. If they don't, after 60 days their visa expires and are subject to deportation.
 
2022-12-08 5:15:22 PM  

El_Dan: What is everyone complaining about, at least he isn't locking the doors from the outside yet.


Yeah he was. You must have missed that story.
 
2022-12-08 5:15:48 PM  

austerity101: These tech assholes are already trying to bring back scrip and company towns. Like, this is a thing they've already been trying to do.


Next move Musk will pay them in Doge coin to use at the company store.
 
2022-12-08 5:17:39 PM  
I think it's hilarious that THIS is what makes the news as worker plight.  These are the people that make hundreds of thousands of dollars and get huge bonuses (well, maybe not under Elon) and have driven up housing and livings costs all throughout the Bay Area.  Meanwhile, those same companies use contract labor for menial jobs and don't share the wealth to those types of employees that work hard and contribute in supportive roles to the company's success.  There was a time when a janitor working at IBM could make enough to own a house next door to an engineer and have a reasonable pension after retirement.  But, yes, cry me a river for the software engineer that has to sleep in an office instead of their $5000/mo SF apartment or, *gasp*, can't work from home!!  Oh, the humanity!!
 
2022-12-08 5:18:31 PM  

Russ1642: Give him a year and he'll be paying his employees in MuskBucks, his own crypto-currency.


That place still running with him at the helm in a year is...optimistic
 
2022-12-08 5:18:40 PM  

doctorguilty: This has been all over the BBC for a day, but this link gets greened today. I don't get it.


LOL!
Also, half of the stuff greenlit of Fark these days isn't event Fark, it's news!  So, you know...
 
2022-12-08 5:19:12 PM  
If I ever brought a couple of cots into my office and told the staff we'll be sleeping here to increase production, they'd laugh in my face and quit immediately.
Why does this raging asshole have any employees left?  Oh right. Because he has employees who need a job to keep their work visas valid. Basically, legalized slave labor.
 
2022-12-08 5:19:21 PM  

Begoggle: Those employees will be soon filing lawsuits and getting some cash.
That's the only reason they haven't quit.
Probably talking to lawyers already, actually.
Unless they are really stupid.


Or they're all H1B employees that don't want to get deported and Musk knows this so he's treating them like slaves.
 
2022-12-08 5:19:24 PM  
Possibly a dumb question, but... are there any showers at the Twitter Motel?
 
2022-12-08 5:19:39 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: I bet each and every single one of those employees who opted to stay rather than take the severance package when it was offered is sorely regretting their poor life choice now

They now find themselves obligated to put in 80+ hour weeks for a mercurial megalomaniac who will fire people on a whim and will now be expected to spend 24/7 of their lives working in Twitter HQ, meaning the can kiss their friends, family and any sense of a normal life goodbye ... all for the same salary they had before with only the BS pinky swear Musk made of "rewarding outstanding work", whatever the fark that means

The City of SF should send in a crises team, I suspect many employees are weighing suicide at this point


I bet most who stayed have H-1B visas and would be deported in a few months if they quit and cannot find a job
 
2022-12-08 5:19:56 PM  

maxandgrinch: doctorguilty: This has been all over the BBC for a day, but this link gets greened today. I don't get it.

I think it was greened 2-3 days ago here.


That link was paid for by another company, Gizmodo's check just cleared for theirs.
 
2022-12-08 5:20:23 PM  

Watubi: I think it's hilarious that THIS is what makes the news as worker plight.  These are the people that make hundreds of thousands of dollars and get huge bonuses (well, maybe not under Elon) and have driven up housing and livings costs all throughout the Bay Area.  Meanwhile, those same companies use contract labor for menial jobs and don't share the wealth to those types of employees that work hard and contribute in supportive roles to the company's success.  There was a time when a janitor working at IBM could make enough to own a house next door to an engineer and have a reasonable pension after retirement.  But, yes, cry me a river for the software engineer that has to sleep in an office instead of their $5000/mo SF apartment or, *gasp*, can't work from home!!  Oh, the humanity!!


Hurr.

Derp.
 
2022-12-08 5:20:40 PM  

Walker: El_Dan: What is everyone complaining about, at least he isn't locking the doors from the outside yet.

Yeah he was. You must have missed that story.


I think that was him locking the doors from the inside, although I wouldn't honestly be that surprised if it were the other way either.
 
2022-12-08 5:21:08 PM  

Lambskincoat: He is the reason why historically, peasants rise up and do unspeakable things to their wealthy oppressors.


Historically peasants didn't have Netflix and high fructose corn syrup
 
2022-12-08 5:22:09 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Possibly a dumb question, but... are there any showers at the Twitter Motel?


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2022-12-08 5:22:26 PM  
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2022-12-08 5:22:41 PM  

whidbey: At what point do workers rights get invoked?

This should be illegal no matter what they're getting paid.


If the space is theirs to the extent that normal tenant rights, including privacy, access, guests, timely maintenance, and the notification period for eviction are respected, then I don't have a problem with it, provided that it's properly furnished (ie, not throwing bedding on a couch designed for commercial duty).  At that point it potentially becomes a perk if it's not provided solely in exchange for insanely long hours.

But if it's just a shiatty crash-pad under the expectation that the employee will work stupid-long hours and the employee has no reasonable expectation of privacy or any other normal tenant perks, then fark that.
 
2022-12-08 5:22:50 PM  
Elon, when your employees said they wanted to work from home, this isn't what they meant.
 
2022-12-08 5:24:31 PM  
In my line of work there have been nights where I'd have welcomed a place to just sleep at the office. Like, once or twice a quarter when things got busy. Sometimes I would get a hotel in Manhattan because late night commutes take too much time.

But if I interviewed at a company and saw beds in the office, I'd run.

The way this asshole is doing it is borderline. I hope he gets sued back into the stone age by whatever body manages labor laws in Cali. They don't play. Sure he can go to Texass if he wants. Good luck getting anyone to follow.
 
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2022-12-08 5:25:01 PM  

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Is the door banged-up from the person beating on it, screaming for help?
 
2022-12-08 5:26:34 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: Begoggle: Those employees will be soon filing lawsuits and getting some cash.
That's the only reason they haven't quit.
Probably talking to lawyers already, actually.
Unless they are really stupid.

Or they're all H1B employees that don't want to get deported and Musk knows this so he's treating them like slaves.


Let's be honest, when they designed the H1B visa rules, isn't that kind of what they were hoping for?
 
2022-12-08 5:26:58 PM  

Begoggle: Those employees will be soon filing lawsuits and getting some cash.
That's the only reason they haven't quit.
Probably talking to lawyers already, actually.
Unless they are really stupid.


I suspect the bulk of remaining staff are stuck due to visa issues: transferring employer-linked visas is a long process and requires a very generous and considerate future employer to jump through the hoops.

They're highly skilled immigrants who have now found themselves in a situation similar to indentured labourers. The system needs to be reassessed to address situations like this.
 
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