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(ESPN)   How bad is Marcus Mariota? He just got benched for a guy who has thrown exactly zero passes in the NFL   (espn.com) divider line
    More: Fail, National Football League, veteran Marcus Mariota, Atlanta Falcons, Indianapolis Colts, rookie Desmond Ridder, New York Jets, American football, Kansas City Chiefs  
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712 clicks; posted to Sports » on 08 Dec 2022 at 8:35 PM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-08 4:04:42 PM  
Ehh...Falcons have really exceeded expectations this year, but even if they make the playoffs and win that wretched division, they'd lose pretty quickly.

Start Ridder to see what you have. I know what the Falcons have in Mariota & it ain't pretty.
 
2022-12-08 8:42:00 PM  
It's a run first offense anyway.  It doesn't really matter.  This team is not good.  Might as well see what you've got in this guy.
 
2022-12-08 9:13:16 PM  
It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.
 
2022-12-08 9:17:54 PM  
As bad as he's been, it's not all Mariota's fault because the offensive line is still basically a row of turnstiles. It's going to be even worse for Ridder unless he can run like hell - he's got no experience reading NFL defenses, and he is going to have zero time in the pocket.
 
2022-12-08 9:30:26 PM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


Mariota and Trubisky were free agents.
 
2022-12-08 9:31:54 PM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


Well, besides Stanford for one year.

Goff is actually putting up good numbers but the defense has a league worst 27 PPG.  Not much you can do with that.
 
2022-12-08 9:34:53 PM  

Get Rich or Try Dyin': Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.

Mariota and Trubisky were free agents.


Okay - QBs that changed teams - not traded.

Better?
 
2022-12-08 9:39:37 PM  

Shotgun Justice: Get Rich or Try Dyin': Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.

Mariota and Trubisky were free agents.

Okay - QBs that changed teams - not traded.

Better?


OK, but then you'd need to include Brady. (You also omitted Matthew Stafford as a traded QB, which obviously doesn't fit the narrative.)

Other than Wilson, you listed a bunch of guys who were already suspect, which is why they were traded.
 
2022-12-08 9:44:30 PM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


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2022-12-08 9:45:48 PM  

Get Rich or Try Dyin': Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.

Mariota and Trubisky were free agents.


And Trubisky might have been fine. Hampered by a shiat OC and a line that hadn't gelled yet, and a workhorse RB that was running in a foot brace with a wonky hoof.

He wasn't given a chance. I expect he requests a trade this off-season.
 
2022-12-08 10:21:40 PM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


I think we got spoiled with great QBs over the past twenty years. And even then there was four or five top QBs maybe a dozen good QBs, then a mix of serviceable to bad.

As to QBs moving teams, it mostly happens with questionable QBs and backups that had a few good games. The top QBs just don't move very much unless there is reason to question their ability (Manning was at best a coin flip to come back at a high level from his injury, Brady questions of age made a big money contract undesirable went to a team basically built for him to win right then and not care about later)

Add in that most QBs will regress somewhat as they learn new systems, coaches, teammates etc and that those questionable or Backup QBs are often moving to otherwise poor teams and them flopping is hardly surprising.

How many current QBs would have looked good on that Atlanta team? Maybe Mahomes. I don't see anyone else doing so now. Brees or Rodgers in their prime probably could have dragged them into the postseason with a respectable record, to lose to an actually good team.
 
2022-12-08 10:24:27 PM  
At some point every QB benches someone having not thrown a pass in the NFL.
 
2022-12-08 10:43:46 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: At some point every QB benches someone having not thrown a pass in the NFL.


do what now?
 
2022-12-08 10:53:53 PM  
Not really, subby. Yeah, Mariota hasn't been great the last month, but he's a bridge qb at best and they need to start evaluating talent since they won't make the playoffs, most likely
 
2022-12-08 11:04:09 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Peter von Nostrand: At some point every QB benches someone having not thrown a pass in the NFL.

do what now?


Maybe not every QB but most QB wind up getting benched for a guy that's never thrown a pass in the NFL. Every QB has to start their first game and throw their first pass at some point.
 
2022-12-08 11:12:43 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Stud Gerbil: Peter von Nostrand: At some point every QB benches someone having not thrown a pass in the NFL.

do what now?

Maybe not every QB but most QB wind up getting benched for a guy that's never thrown a pass in the NFL. Every QB has to start their first game and throw their first pass at some point.


I think his comment was because your post is backwards.

But I would seriously question that. I suspect a large proportion of QBs throw their first passes in garbage time. Plus those that come in for players who are injured or are added to a team that had their experienced QB leave.
 
2022-12-09 3:35:02 AM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


I think what's happened is the demands on the QB position have increased so much there's a more stark line between good and bad. It's harder to be a middling QB and stick with a team. Teams want a Mahomes and they keep cutting QBs until they find one. Teams will trade for a QB, like the Rams getting Stafford, but that's costly. It leads to teams rating rookies a lot higher than they deserve, which leads to immense demands on them to produce immediately, which leads to busts. If your team needs a QB and your team doesn't have the capital to trade for one or draft one, signing someone's castoff is your only hope. Mayfield won tonight, but he's on the Rams because what else can the Rams do?
 
2022-12-09 4:36:11 AM  
Despite being a Duck, I like Marcus Mariota.  He seems like a decent dude.   I'm never gonna cry when a Duck gets benched, though.
 
2022-12-09 5:08:51 AM  
mariota has proven he has backup ability in the nfl and can continue to a hold a clipboard in the league for a long time if he wants to, honestly i doubt ridder is the answer but im not against the idea of throwing him out there
 
2022-12-09 7:32:02 AM  

dywed88: Peter von Nostrand: Stud Gerbil: Peter von Nostrand: At some point every QB benches someone having not thrown a pass in the NFL.

do what now?

Maybe not every QB but most QB wind up getting benched for a guy that's never thrown a pass in the NFL. Every QB has to start their first game and throw their first pass at some point.

I think his comment was because your post is backwards.

But I would seriously question that. I suspect a large proportion of QBs throw their first passes in garbage time. Plus those that come in for players who are injured or are added to a team that had their experienced QB leave.


Yes, well, drinking and posting leads to some jumbled thoughts. 🤷‍♂
 
2022-12-09 3:14:06 PM  

Shotgun Justice: It seems that in the last few years traded QBs become huge busts.  Mariota, Wilson, Mayfield (yet he's getting a third chance tonight apparently), Wentz (from the short time we saw him), Trubisky (though to be honest, he was about at his average this year), etc....

With the soon retirement of Brady and Rodgers, we'll be left with only Mahomes and Allen with the mantle of great QB play.  But maybe that's how it's always been two or three greats and the rest are middling at best.


I see that you don't understand what the word "middling" means.
 
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