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(Fox News)   Fox News stomps on Donald Trump's face. "Having suffered the rare humiliation of failing to win a second term in the Oval Office, and having cost his party a majority in the senate - 3 times - it is time for Donald Trump to step away from politics"   (foxnews.com) divider line
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2022-12-08 12:32:02 AM  
Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?
 
2022-12-08 12:48:13 AM  

AirForceVet: Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?


Starts with 'De' and ends with 'systematic dehumanizing of everyone we don't like'
 
2022-12-08 1:16:17 AM  
While she's right about Trump, she fails to properly diagnose the root cause of why Democrats overperformed again.
 
2022-12-08 1:20:29 AM  

make me some tea: While she's right about Trump, she fails to properly diagnose the root cause of why Democrats overperformed again.


True, Fox News blames Trump. But, really, who wants to vote for rich, white men who don't have any plan on improving the lives of their constituents? Well, except for stupid, white Alabamians.
 
2022-12-08 3:02:26 AM  

AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?


People won't want to hear this, but the GQP hardcore white bigots aren't in the majority of the GOP. A majority of those in the GOP are in denial of the ways the GOP supports White Nationalism, Nazis, and White Supremacists. Yes, denial. They believe the reassuring lies. That's why the reassuring lies are told.

Repeat that, that's why the reassuring lies are told. Otherwise, why would they even bother. That's why so many hide from the overt racism and bigotry, most still don't want to believe that about their party. They make up excuses. They excuse themselves because they think they have to resist "extremists" on the other side. They excuse themselves because they think the Libruls hiat them first. There's a trite pile of defense mechanisms that a high school freshman learns about in their first psychology course --- and yes it is that simple. These aren't sophisticated people. These aren't emotionally or intellectually mature people. They imagine that if they aren't burning crosses and attending klan rallies, that means they aren't racists. This is the story they tell themselves.

A very scary aspect of Trumpism is that the cockroaches among them became less scared of the light. The bigotry and racism grew more explicit but the others excused it because they treated the criticism as being libruls over-reacting against TFG.

Yes, cite your meme about 10 people at a table with a Nazi meaning there are 11 Nazis at the table. And you're mostly right, because complicity, in practice, is essentially as bad in its effect. The effect, the impact, matters a great deal. But there's more. Those 10 at the table are to a great extent under a spell. In some cases the spell can be broken. It's not that those folks deserve some second chance, or we owe them a second chance. No.

We owe ourselves a chance to live in a world where that spell gets broken and those under the spell become less deplorable. Not for them, for us. We don't want to live in a world with that many self-deluded people. It makes it miserable for us. That's why we want to be able to break the spell. We're not coddling them if we do so. We're just hosing the shait off them so we don't have to share our planet with so many shait covered people, not for them, but because we have to smell them.
 
2022-12-08 3:26:07 AM  
oh, I see why she so mad

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2022-12-08 3:35:17 AM  

wademh: People won't want to hear this, but the GQP hardcore white bigots aren't in the majority of the GOP.


I grew up in rural southern Idaho, where there was maybe one Black student in the entire high school.  I moved to Texas.  Subtle racism was common in Idaho (Latinos were all 'migrant workers' who routinely got drunk and beat their wives), but in the South it's a different animal -- more genteel, more velvet.

At the heart of Southern hospitality is the reassurance that you don't have to be hospitable to everyone, just your group.  You don't have to treat non-whites as your equal.  You don't have to afford them respect and dignity.  You take it for granted that they're not on your level.  They don't have to go to school with your kids.  They don't have to come to your churches.  They can have their own schools and churches, where they can be among their own kind, and really, they prefer it that way.

The majority of the GOP are that: polite racists who see the world as a tiered system where you'll always have the Haves and the Have-nots.  And it's fine; that's how it's supposed to be.  Not everyone is equal.  But they hear messages every day that stoke the buried fears that one day they'll be on the bottom.  And the ones who burn crosses do it from their conviction that someone has to do the dirty job of keeping the out-groups out.

Conservativism is the fear of being displaced by the Other.  Maybe it's overt, maybe it's not, but yes, they're all like that.
 
2022-12-08 4:32:55 AM  
"Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary"

...probably in crayon, with half the words not spelled correctly.
 
2022-12-08 4:53:32 AM  
Time to step away from politics?  He should have been sent away for life more than 40 years ago.
 
2022-12-08 5:03:03 AM  
Even if they get rid of Trump, they'll never get rid of the stench. They're a fascist party now, and DeSantis is if anything more of a classic fascist than Trump.
 
2022-12-08 5:05:07 AM  
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F*** all that until that f****** orange s*** stain and all his criminal s*** stained family and Associates are in prison or dead nothing is over f*** that
 
2022-12-08 5:05:51 AM  
Please proceed
 
2022-12-08 5:08:30 AM  

AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still.


Because it's not enough to reliably win anymore.

They can get a controllable version of him, without the same baggage, to get the radical and less radical right on the same voting page.

And that may not be enough to win anymore either.
 
2022-12-08 5:14:20 AM  
Sure, let me know when they are saying this on Fox and Friends.
 
2022-12-08 5:17:53 AM  
Rejecting Trump not because he's a detriment to the country and to society, not because he breaks laws left and right instead of doing his job which is to uphold them, not because he's clearly unfit for government or anything else. Nope. Only rejecting Trump because because he's becoming a net liability to their party.
 
2022-12-08 5:17:56 AM  

wademh: People won't want to hear this, but the GQP hardcore white bigots aren't in the majority of the GOP. A majority of those in the GOP are in denial of the ways the GOP supports White Nationalism, Nazis, and White Supremacists. Yes, denial. They believe the reassuring lies. That's why the reassuring lies are told.


So they're just sitting at the table with a bunch of Nazis, but they're not Nazis themselves.   Got it.

/ Nat-Cs
 
2022-12-08 5:18:06 AM  

wademh: AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?

People won't want to hear this, but the GQP hardcore white bigots aren't in the majority of the GOP. A majority of those in the GOP are in denial of the ways the GOP supports White Nationalism, Nazis, and White Supremacists. Yes, denial. They believe the reassuring lies. That's why the reassuring lies are told.

Repeat that, that's why the reassuring lies are told. Otherwise, why would they even bother. That's why so many hide from the overt racism and bigotry, most still don't want to believe that about their party. They make up excuses. They excuse themselves because they think they have to resist "extremists" on the other side. They excuse themselves because they think the Libruls hiat them first. There's a trite pile of defense mechanisms that a high school freshman learns about in their first psychology course --- and yes it is that simple. These aren't sophisticated people. These aren't emotionally or intellectually mature people. They imagine that if they aren't burning crosses and attending klan rallies, that means they aren't racists. This is the story they tell themselves.

A very scary aspect of Trumpism is that the cockroaches among them became less scared of the light. The bigotry and racism grew more explicit but the others excused it because they treated the criticism as being libruls over-reacting against TFG.

Yes, cite your meme about 10 people at a table with a Nazi meaning there are 11 Nazis at the table. And you're mostly right, because complicity, in practice, is essentially as bad in its effect. The effect, the impact, matters a great deal. But there's more. Those 10 at the table are to a great extent under a spell. In some cases the spell can be broken. It's not that those folks deserve some second chance, or we owe them a second chance. No.

We owe ourselves a chance to live in a world where that spell gets broken and those under the spell become less deplorable. Not for them, for us. We don't want to live in a world with that many self-deluded people. It makes it miserable for us. That's why we want to be able to break the spell. We're not coddling them if we do so. We're just hosing the shait off them so we don't have to share our planet with so many shait covered people, not for them, but because we have to smell them.


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"Sometimes, there's a plan."  Well said.
 
2022-12-08 5:23:18 AM  
It's time for the bull to step away from the china shop
 
2022-12-08 5:25:04 AM  
"Fox News stomps on Donald Trump's face."


With a hobnail boot??


/UGA reference, seemed appropriate...
 
2022-12-08 5:26:34 AM  

NotCodger: "Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary"

...probably in crayon, with half the words not spelled correctly.


Herschel Walker's Closing Message: 'I Don't Even Know What the Heck Is a Pronoun'

Or numerous other parts of speech.
 
2022-12-08 5:29:32 AM  

AirForceVet: make me some tea: While she's right about Trump, she fails to properly diagnose the root cause of why Democrats overperformed again.

True, Fox News blames Trump. But, really, who wants to vote for rich, white men who don't have any plan on improving the lives of their constituents? Well, except for stupid, white Alabamians.


I thought the proper nomenclature was 'Alabastards'.
 
2022-12-08 5:31:48 AM  
"Fox News stomps on Donald Trump's face. "Having suffered the rare humiliation of failing to win a second term in the Oval Office, and having cost his party a majority in the senate - 3 times - it is time for Donald Trump to step away from politics""

They conveniently forgot to mention that Trump never won the national vote either. The only election he won was because the electoral college favours small red states, not because he won more votes than Clinton.
 
2022-12-08 5:34:01 AM  
which will enable Joe Biden to [...] carry out his far-left agenda.

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2022-12-08 5:36:41 AM  
Tried reading that article. Got as far as "Biden's far-left agenda".
I feel dirty inside for clicking a Faux Snooze story.
 
2022-12-08 5:37:22 AM  

wademh: AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?

People won't want to hear this, but the GQP hardcore white bigots aren't in the majority of the GOP. A majority of those in the GOP are in denial of the ways the GOP supports White Nationalism, Nazis, and White Supremacists. Yes, denial. They believe the reassuring lies. That's why the reassuring lies are told.

Repeat that, that's why the reassuring lies are told. Otherwise, why would they even bother. That's why so many hide from the overt racism and bigotry, most still don't want to believe that about their party. They make up excuses. They excuse themselves because they think they have to resist "extremists" on the other side. They excuse themselves because they think the Libruls hiat them first. There's a trite pile of defense mechanisms that a high school freshman learns about in their first psychology course --- and yes it is that simple. These aren't sophisticated people. These aren't emotionally or intellectually mature people. They imagine that if they aren't burning crosses and attending klan rallies, that means they aren't racists. This is the story they tell themselves.

A very scary aspect of Trumpism is that the cockroaches among them became less scared of the light. The bigotry and racism grew more explicit but the others excused it because they treated the criticism as being libruls over-reacting against TFG.

Yes, cite your meme about 10 people at a table with a Nazi meaning there are 11 Nazis at the table. And you're mostly right, because complicity, in practice, is essentially as bad in its effect. The effect, the impact, matters a great deal. But there's more. Those 10 at the table are to a great extent under a spell. In some cases the spell can be broken. It's not that those folks deserve some second chance, or we owe them a second chance. No.

We owe ourselves a chance to live in a world where that spell gets broken and those under the spell become less deplorable. Not for them, for us. We don't want to live in a world with that many self-deluded people. It makes it miserable for us. That's why we want to be able to break the spell. We're not coddling them if we do so. We're just hosing the shait off them so we don't have to share our planet with so many shait covered people, not for them, but because we have to smell them.


I have nothing to add except sincere applause for your post.
 
2022-12-08 5:37:57 AM  
On the one hand, Republicans fall in line.

On the other hand, Republicans are fanatically devoted to Rump.

I honestly do not know how this is gonna shake out.
 
2022-12-08 5:38:43 AM  
It's gonna take a LOT more than one shiatty article to deprogram all those Trumpers, Fox. You should know; you helped brainwash most of them.
 
2022-12-08 5:39:05 AM  
I very much hope TFG still runs for 2024 as an "Independant" and pulls a significant # of votes away from the republican candidate.
 
2022-12-08 5:39:51 AM  

AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?


The three-time candidate and one-time president that garnered 60 million plus votes twice is Republican leadership.
 
2022-12-08 5:43:11 AM  

NotCodger: "Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary"

...probably in crayon, with half the words not spelled correctly.


So it could be TFG writing his own political obituary. But his would be in Sharpie ink.
 
2022-12-08 5:44:42 AM  

AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?


Kanye?
 
2022-12-08 5:45:37 AM  

AirForceVet: make me some tea: While she's right about Trump, she fails to properly diagnose the root cause of why Democrats overperformed again.

True, Fox News blames Trump. But, really, who wants to vote for rich, white men who don't have any plan on improving the lives of their constituents? Well, except for stupid, white Alabamians.


You can include the rest of the South and most of the Midwest in that.
 
2022-12-08 5:49:44 AM  
One of the neighborhood dogs came into my front yard tonight. I don't know what he had eaten, but it made him violently sick. He threw up a large putrid mass and then ran off, apparently feeling better after eliminating the foulness. I went outside to clean it up, but the stench was just too strong. I'm not even sure what it was before the dog ate it. Identifying it was not possible in its current condition.

And yet, that decaying mass of dog vomit has a better chance than Walker of ever being the Republican nominee for any future office.
 
2022-12-08 5:51:14 AM  
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2022-12-08 5:51:22 AM  
A majority which will enable Joe Biden to appoint more judges, enact more legislation and put in place more appointees willing and able to carry out his far-left agenda.

Eye roll.

Few are shocked that Herschel Walker lost the Georgia senate race to Raphael Warnock. Walker was not a strong candidate; he had been hand-picked by Trump...

The sad thing is he lost by a spread of less than 3 percentage points. Based on the single qualification of being able to put a single coherent sentence together should have meant at least a 20 point spread.

But no, a bunch of voters are like the woman in one of our offices who keeps trying to engage in political discussion. Among her missives: "Elon Musk sure is driving the Democrats and Liberals crazy." "These vaccines are stupid and overblown (in a discussion about a co-worker's relative who had a rare adverse reaction)." "Well, I guess we're stuck with Warlock (yes, she said "Warlock") for six years" "I tell people I go to work to pay taxes for deadbeats."

The one thing she said that I commented on was "only 50% of registered voters voted in the runoff" To which I said, "that's actually a high percentage." But her obvious implication is she's part of some "silent majority." In her semi-rural county, they aren't silent.
 
2022-12-08 5:51:25 AM  

schnee: AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?

The three-time candidate and one-time president that garnered 60 million plus votes twice is Republican leadership.


He can't be the leader when he has no idea how to do that.
 
2022-12-08 5:53:29 AM  
Heh. They really are going to try and purge him. They will act like it was just an excursion in to madness facilitated by a minority. "The voters wanted the demagogue, not us true conservatives who believe in America."

And people in this country will let them.
 
2022-12-08 5:54:06 AM  

Alphax: schnee: AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?

The three-time candidate and one-time president that garnered 60 million plus votes twice is Republican leadership.

He can't be the leader when he has no idea how to do that.


Monkey see, monkey do. It's kinda like leadership if all you have are brainwashed assholes, grifters, and marks.
 
2022-12-08 5:54:23 AM  
Nobody likes a loser. Fox loves this idiot even though he is a thief, a fascist, a liar, a wife beater and a seditionist. But nobody likes a loser.
 
2022-12-08 5:55:48 AM  

NotCodger: One of the neighborhood dogs came into my front yard tonight. I don't know what he had eaten, but it made him violently sick. He threw up a large putrid mass and then ran off, apparently feeling better after eliminating the foulness. I went outside to clean it up, but the stench was just too strong. I'm not even sure what it was before the dog ate it. Identifying it was not possible in its current condition.

And yet, that decaying mass of dog vomit has a better chance than Walker of ever being the Republican nominee for any future office.


Nonsense. There are probably a few Congressional districts in Georgia or Texas where Walker could win.
 
2022-12-08 6:01:30 AM  
I rarely read an article from Fox News. Every time I do I remember why. The spin they put on reality makes me dizzy.
 
2022-12-08 6:11:51 AM  

Alphax: schnee: AirForceVet: Why? TFG has the GQP hardcore white bigots under his sway still. Who can the Republican leadership depend on to turn out the white supremacist vote?

The three-time candidate and one-time president that garnered 60 million plus votes twice is Republican leadership.

He can't be the leader when he has no idea how to do that.


If you have people following you, you're the leader.  Knowing where you are going isn't a prereq.
 
2022-12-08 6:12:21 AM  

Eddie Barzoom: It's time for the bull to step away from the china shop


Myth busters did this. IIRC, the bull didn't break much.

TFG is more of a treasonous grifter trying to destroy the nation in a golf resort.
 
2022-12-08 6:14:01 AM  

Hey Nurse!: I rarely read an article from Fox News. Every time I do I remember why. The spin they put on reality makes me dizzy.


If we could reclaim all of the time and effort humans put into being batshiat crazy and put it to productive use instead, we'd be out among the stars by now.

/Not the movie stars
 
2022-12-08 6:15:51 AM  

FatherChaos: It's gonna take a LOT more than one shiatty article to deprogram all those Trumpers, Fox. You should know; you helped brainwash most of them.


They don't wanna deprogram them, they wanna kingmake.  Just make them choose a new fascist leader.
 
2022-12-08 6:17:03 AM  
FTFA: "The midterms were, instead, a referendum on the increasing unpopularity of Mr. Trump. Yes, he still has a lock on some (declining) portion of the Republican Party. And, yes, Trump-always voters may refuse to back anyone else, ever. That is unfortunate, because Trump's greatest achievement was bringing hundreds of thousands - maybe millions - of people into our political process, for the first time.

These were people who never thought a candidate spoke for them. People felt left behind by both establishment Republicans and Democrats - who believed that D.C. was a swamp and that Trump could fix it. They liked his willingness to poke the special interests who had lobbied for free trade and cost them their jobs. They agreed with Trump's demands that our allies foot the bill for their own defense, and his condemnation of business interests making fortunes in China, while turning a blind eye to Beijing's criminal behavior.
"

Those were not the people Trump brought into the political process, they are saying this because: 1. They are in denial because admitting the truth would not be complementary of them or their political movement, and 2. They are trying to separate the MAGA sociopaths from Trump in order to keep the nihilist vote.
 
2022-12-08 6:38:29 AM  

heavymetal: FTFA: "The midterms were, instead, a referendum on the increasing unpopularity of Mr. Trump. Yes, he still has a lock on some (declining) portion of the Republican Party. And, yes, Trump-always voters may refuse to back anyone else, ever. That is unfortunate, because Trump's greatest achievement was bringing hundreds of thousands - maybe millions - of people into our political process, for the first time.

These were people who never thought a candidate spoke for them. People felt left behind by both establishment Republicans and Democrats - who believed that D.C. was a swamp and that Trump could fix it. They liked his willingness to poke the special interests who had lobbied for free trade and cost them their jobs. They agreed with Trump's demands that our allies foot the bill for their own defense, and his condemnation of business interests making fortunes in China, while turning a blind eye to Beijing's criminal behavior."

Those were not the people Trump brought into the political process, they are saying this because: 1. They are in denial because admitting the truth would not be complementary of them or their political movement, and 2. They are trying to separate the MAGA sociopaths from Trump in order to keep the nihilist vote.


I gotta disagree with you here, respectfully.

Everything was completely accurate. But you take off the fox lens distortion, and suddenly, It all makes sense. He did bring in millions of first time voters. In 2020.

And the hallmark successes of his entire presidency was shifting the manufacturing trade imbalance from China to other Asian nations like Vietnam, like Thailand. And how he tried to say the only way to make American great is rebuilding the manufacturing base of the country. Again, he wasn't wrong, he just went about it in a really stupid way. That was also his largest rural base. Displaced workers with "economic anxiety" making the scape goat the out group they are told is responsible for it. Something Trump was really good at. Justifying the demagoguery, and saying they are coming to get you, get them first and MAGA!

This is an attempt to wash the Trump stink off as he faces more and more legal scrutiny and making DeSantis the defacto guy.
 
2022-12-08 6:40:34 AM  

JaytheFarkingCanadian: Tried reading that article. Got as far as "Biden's far-left agenda".
I feel dirty inside for clicking a Faux Snooze story.


They've reached the point where they know they're a joke.  People only click on them to read the insane comments.  That's why they're separated from the article by about a mile of clickbait links.
 
2022-12-08 6:42:22 AM  
That's just one particular opinion, not the blessing by all from Fox News.  It's not over for Trump until The Turtle [Mitch McConnell] says it's over.
 
2022-12-08 6:45:53 AM  

Hey Nurse!: I rarely read an article from Fox News. Every time I do I remember why. The spin they put on reality makes me dizzy.


ITS A NO SPIN ZONE!
 
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