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(BBC-US)   Putin: "We have not gone mad, we are aware of what nuclear weapons are." Rest of world: lol they mad   (bbc.com) divider line
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2022-12-07 3:00:43 PM  
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2022-12-07 3:02:42 PM  
You will go down in history as Vlad the Mad. You had a chance to thrice post Soviet Union and you have decided to destroy Russia entirely over your vanity project of reclaiming states you lost.

Also:

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2022-12-07 3:02:58 PM  
THRIVE post soviet....

grrrr
 
2022-12-07 6:47:23 PM  
Based on what we've seen so far from the Russian military, the Russian nukes are likely as effective as a case of diet coke and a bag of old mentos.
He knows his bluffs are coming up short so he wants everybody to chill because if Russia gets nuked first, the only response they'll have will be a Wilhelm scream of despair.
Wilhelm Scream Compilation
Youtube 4YDpuA90KEY
 
2022-12-07 7:06:33 PM  
Yeah no, stop f*cking shiat up.
 
2022-12-07 7:08:23 PM  
So basically, Putin might nuke some folks then die of cancer before the consequences come about.
 
2022-12-07 7:09:34 PM  
I wonder how much this is to calm figures in his own government from doing a Brutus, rather than calm the West.,
 
2022-12-07 7:10:41 PM  
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2022-12-07 7:11:48 PM  
Vlad the Vlad
 
2022-12-07 7:12:39 PM  
But is he aware of any nuclear vessels?
 
2022-12-07 7:12:43 PM  

Private_Citizen: Based on what we've seen so far from the Russian military, the Russian nukes are likely as effective as a case of diet coke and a bag of old mentos.


Maybe, but I don't think anyone really wants to find out.  MAD as in mutually assured destruction is what's keeping him from doing it, he knows Moscow will be leveled within minutes of his nukes landing anywhere. But he might get to a "fark it all, I'm dying anyway" stage. Christ I hope he's taken out soon.
 
2022-12-07 7:13:06 PM  
"The Russian president insisted that his country would only use weapons of mass destruction in response to an attack."

...after months of repeatedly categorizing Ukraine defending itself as an attack.
 
2022-12-07 7:13:25 PM  

dracos31: But is he aware of any nuclear vessels?


i'm pretty sure it's nuclear wessels
 
2022-12-07 7:14:24 PM  
China told him what's what.  An economy needed to keep a billion people happy can't exist in a world where Russia has been nuked into a radioactive waste-land.  The Russian nuke threat is completely empty and they know it.
 
2022-12-07 7:16:35 PM  
Those are the things you use to stop hurricanes right?
 
2022-12-07 7:18:04 PM  

tembaarmswide: dracos31: But is he aware of any nuclear vessels?

i'm pretty sure it's nuclear wessels


Chekov can spell it, he just can't say it.
 
2022-12-07 7:18:35 PM  
They just want to get someone to come to the table and acknowledge that possession is 9/10ths of the law.
 
2022-12-07 7:18:51 PM  
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2022-12-07 7:21:55 PM  

Unsung_Hero: "The Russian president insisted that his country would only use weapons of mass destruction in response to an attack."

...after months of repeatedly categorizing Ukraine defending itself as an attack.


Note that Ukraine has been striking sites inside Russia. This what he is referring to. It's coded language to the west to pressure Zelenskyy to limit his operational area to pre-war Ukrainian borders.
 
2022-12-07 7:22:16 PM  
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2022-12-07 7:25:02 PM  
I think the question of nuclear weapons rests on wither or not Ukraine enters Russian terrirtory with any decentlly sized conventional force. (They may tolerate a raiding strategy)
Nuclear weapons are defensive in nature, and they serve primarily to deter conventional militaries from invading. But they lose their deterent power if not deployed when that red line is seriously crossed.
 
2022-12-07 7:28:10 PM  
Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?
 
2022-12-07 7:31:44 PM  
Ok.  Give Russia a test.  Drop a MoAB on one Russian city and a nuke on another.  Let's see if they can tell the difference.
 
2022-12-07 7:33:09 PM  

wi11ow: I think the question of nuclear weapons rests on wither or not Ukraine enters Russian terrirtory with any decentlly sized conventional force. (They may tolerate a raiding strategy)
Nuclear weapons are defensive in nature, and they serve primarily to deter conventional militaries from invading. But they lose their deterent power if not deployed when that red line is seriously crossed.


What is the red line?  When the enemy starts killing people?

If I am killed by a Russian, I am dead.  I want the red line to be before Russia kills me.
 
2022-12-07 7:34:19 PM  

Private_Citizen: Russian nukes are likely as effective as a case of diet coke and a bag of old mentos.


Until you fall down an elevator shaft full of old nukes.....

/s
 
2022-12-07 7:35:36 PM  
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2022-12-07 7:36:01 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: wi11ow: I think the question of nuclear weapons rests on wither or not Ukraine enters Russian terrirtory with any decentlly sized conventional force. (They may tolerate a raiding strategy)
Nuclear weapons are defensive in nature, and they serve primarily to deter conventional militaries from invading. But they lose their deterent power if not deployed when that red line is seriously crossed.

What is the red line?  When the enemy starts killing people?

If I am killed by a Russian, I am dead.  I want the red line to be before Russia kills me.


If it's OK to nuke a nation that's trying to wipe you out... Ukraine got the green light to nuke Moscow by Putin's standards ages ago.
 
2022-12-07 7:38:59 PM  
Can I play with madness? Pootie and the Orcfish make this guy and his followers seem sane by comparison...

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2022-12-07 7:39:25 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: wi11ow: I think the question of nuclear weapons rests on wither or not Ukraine enters Russian terrirtory with any decentlly sized conventional force. (They may tolerate a raiding strategy)
Nuclear weapons are defensive in nature, and they serve primarily to deter conventional militaries from invading. But they lose their deterent power if not deployed when that red line is seriously crossed.

What is the red line?  When the enemy starts killing people?

If I am killed by a Russian, I am dead.  I want the red line to be before Russia kills me.


I'm afraid we have found you to be expendable as collateral damage to further the case for sanctions and third party military spending. You should have studied harder for the SATs. Sorry.
 
2022-12-07 7:40:38 PM  

dracos31: But is he aware of any nuclear vessels?


wessels

they creep the trouser
 
2022-12-07 7:42:02 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?


I'd settle for Putin tied to a chair in front of a piano while Zelenskyy looks him in dead the eye with his arms crossed and proceeds to bang out the Ukrainian national anthem.
 
2022-12-07 7:42:42 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: wi11ow: I think the question of nuclear weapons rests on wither or not Ukraine enters Russian terrirtory with any decentlly sized conventional force. (They may tolerate a raiding strategy)
Nuclear weapons are defensive in nature, and they serve primarily to deter conventional militaries from invading. But they lose their deterent power if not deployed when that red line is seriously crossed.

What is the red line?  When the enemy starts killing people?

If I am killed by a Russian, I am dead.  I want the red line to be before Russia kills me.


Im talking in terms of effective nuclear deterance. The reason countries own nuclear weapons, the US, the UK, China, North Korea, Israel, all have them is to deter foreign invasion. Despite the look of all the missiles, long range bombers etc the point is to deter invasion not offensively attack a foreign state. It's also why Iran wants, and Iraq wanted one. It ensures that the US does not invade.

Putin would never nuke Ukraine while engaged in a conflict with them unless Ukraine enters Russia propper with a conventional military force capable of taking and holding territory. They will likely put up with a considerable amount of cross border raiding from Ukraine's forces despite their threats and statements.

As for the West not using them on behalf of Ukraine, well thats simple. Ukraine is not the US, UK, Israel etc...
 
2022-12-07 7:44:31 PM  
I live how the Russian threat is to say they'll use nuclear weapons, and the American threat is to calmly debut our new strategic stealth bomber in anti-flash white paint and not say a word.
 
2022-12-07 7:48:25 PM  
But he asserted that Russia would "under no circumstances" use the weapons first, and would not threaten anyone with its nuclear arsenal.

They already farking did threaten. Repeatedly.
 
2022-12-07 7:50:54 PM  

awruk!: But he asserted that Russia would "under no circumstances" use the weapons first, and would not threaten anyone with its nuclear arsenal.

They already farking did threaten. Repeatedly.


Obviously you're not expecting the truth, but even if you're merely expecting anything like consistency in the lies coming out of Putin's regime, you haven't been paying attention.
 
2022-12-07 7:54:57 PM  

Unsung_Hero: awruk!: But he asserted that Russia would "under no circumstances" use the weapons first, and would not threaten anyone with its nuclear arsenal.

They already farking did threaten. Repeatedly.

Obviously you're not expecting the truth, but even if you're merely expecting anything like consistency in the lies coming out of Putin's regime, you haven't been paying attention.


you lie enough about as much as possible and no one can keep up with the lying as you're already onto the next lie

/that's Trumps entire presidency
 
2022-12-07 8:20:20 PM  
Dollars to donuts, they don't have working nukes they can trust not to detonate inside of Russia.
 
2022-12-07 8:41:43 PM  
Sorry, Vlad. Nuclear launch codes are only for housebroken dictators.

#VladShiddedHisself
 
2022-12-07 8:43:36 PM  

Nurglitch: Dollars to donuts, they don't have working nukes they can trust not to detonate inside of Russia.


I've been screaming this from the mountaintops I live on.

I work in a job very tangentially related to weapons stewardship, and that shiat? IS NOT EASY. Weapons are not actually interested in being weapons and the entire process is a war against time. Rockets rot, electronics die, and the radioactive part has zero interest in being a weapon and will do everything it can to reconfigure into not being a weapon anymore.

Weapons overall have a shelf life shorter than the eight-track, and that's if you're very, very lucky indeed.

And the act of stewardship is time consuming, delicate, and expensive, and takes people with very specialized areas of expertise. You cannot hire someone off the street to weld plutonium, which is an act closer to art than science.

Given the status of Russia's conventional weaponry, I feel 100% safe in saying that his nuclear arms are dead in the tube.

/just my opinion
 
2022-12-07 8:45:18 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Can I play with madness? Pootie and the Orcfish make this guy and his followers seem sane by comparison...

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Can I play with madness?
The prophet stared at his crystal ball
Can I play with madness?
There's no vision there at all
Can I play with madness?
The prophet looked at me and laughed at me (ha ha) He said:
Can I play with madness?
He said you're blind, too blind to see

/ seems oddly appropriate for Putin the Mad
 
2022-12-07 9:14:18 PM  
He will or he won't. I'll either perish from the earth or survive. I really don't give a rats ass about Russia except to say they need to be broken up and sold to the highest bidder to make Ukraine while again.

Russia is on the ash heap of history and they did this to themselves.

End Russia.
 
2022-12-07 9:28:23 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: Epic Fap Session: Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?

I'd settle for Putin tied to a chair in front of a piano while Zelenskyy looks him in dead the eye with his arms crossed and proceeds to bang out the Ukrainian national anthem.


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How about this instead?
 
2022-12-07 9:57:12 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: Squid_for_Brains: Epic Fap Session: Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?

I'd settle for Putin tied to a chair in front of a piano while Zelenskyy looks him in dead the eye with his arms crossed and proceeds to bang out the Ukrainian national anthem.

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How about this instead?


Tacky! :D
 
2022-12-07 10:06:08 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: Squid_for_Brains: Epic Fap Session: Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?

I'd settle for Putin tied to a chair in front of a piano while Zelenskyy looks him in dead the eye with his arms crossed and proceeds to bang out the Ukrainian national anthem.

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Bra-farking-vo.

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2022-12-07 10:07:36 PM  
Putin: "Don't push me, NATO. I will go the fark off!!  I've used nukes before....at my girlfriends house. You wouldn't know her. She lives in Canada".
 
2022-12-07 10:24:38 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: Squid_for_Brains: Epic Fap Session: Has Elon asked Zelensky to declare a cease-fire in order to avert a nuclear war yet?

I'd settle for Putin tied to a chair in front of a piano while Zelenskyy looks him in dead the eye with his arms crossed and proceeds to bang out the Ukrainian national anthem.

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How about this instead?


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2022-12-07 10:30:16 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Putin: "Don't push me, NATO. I will go the fark off!!  I've used nukes before....at my girlfriends house. You wouldn't know her. She lives in Canada".


Fark off, Putin.  Canada stands with Ukraine.
 
2022-12-07 10:54:33 PM  
Why won't he just trip and fall out of a window onto a knife already?
 
2022-12-07 11:05:56 PM  
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2022-12-07 11:07:19 PM  
We're long past due for someone to toss a briefcase bomb at Putin while he's on the shiatter.
 
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