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(MSN Autos)   Ravaging assault on U.S. patriotism   ( yellowtimes.org) divider line
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2002-03-01 08:57:01 AM  
I knew this would be accepted on reg.Fark!
2002-03-01 02:14:07 PM  
total Lunatic.
2002-03-01 02:14:18 PM  
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2002-03-01 02:14:23 PM  
now why didn't this get a
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2002-03-01 02:15:28 PM  
no wonder we haven't heard from Rei in awhile.... that is ALOT of typing
2002-03-01 02:15:30 PM  
There is a wonderful scene in ?The Gulag Archipelago.? After a speech by Stalin, the audience applauds and applauds and
cannot stop applauding. Everyone waits for his or her neighbors to stop before stopping, only the neighbors also do not stop. The
applause threatens to continue forever. "Why? Because NKVD men prowl the aisles, looking for anyone who stops applauding.
Without making any outlandish, inappropriate comparisons between Bush's America and Stalin's Russia, there is still a very uncomfortable parallel between that frightening historical scene and recent events in the U.S., especially the State of the Union address."

2002-03-01 02:15:35 PM  
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Even better....
2002-03-01 02:17:43 PM  
People are coonts.
2002-03-01 02:18:04 PM  
It IS interesting. There are some valid points, but it's still a rant. As ferally loud as he accuses America of being.
2002-03-01 02:18:11 PM  
Can't we have less obvious flamebait submissions?
2002-03-01 02:18:13 PM  
In other news, Lee Greenwood still doesn't have to work for a living.
2002-03-01 02:18:26 PM  
I won't even give this the satisfaction of getting read considering the source.
2002-03-01 02:18:41 PM  
I don't have time to finish reading (class), but I do have a question.

Does this guy where an aluminum foil hat, perchance? Or...
2002-03-01 02:18:55 PM  
Article too long.... needs a Cliff Notes version.

Line that stood out before I called it a day

"What a big fat disappointment America is today..."

Great. Then all you foreigners planning to come here and score a green card to try and achieve the American Dream , stay home. Move on immigrants, nothing to see here.
2002-03-01 02:19:09 PM  
The truth hurts.

I notice Canada was excluded from the rant. Good for us.
2002-03-01 02:19:14 PM  
Yeah, uh, I don't want to make any outlandish comparisons between the Gulag and the State of the Union addrss, but that scene in The Gulag Archipelago is a lot like the State of the Union Address.
2002-03-01 02:19:17 PM  
zzzzz . .
2002-03-01 02:19:39 PM  
The truth hurts.

I notice Canada was excluded from the rant. Good for us.
Although, we're just a few televangelists short of being American.
2002-03-01 02:19:41 PM  
If I see the yellow box. I ignore. Move on.
2002-03-01 02:20:07 PM  
A few years ago, the world's richest country suddenly decided to stop paying U.N. dues, ignoring its long-standing treaty obligations. With an arrogant wave of the hand, it dismissed its responsibilities and blamed the U.N. for waste and bureaucracy.
Ah. That's right, UN actions never involve billions of dollars in American hardware and soldiers. Silly me.
2002-03-01 02:20:11 PM  
What is this guy's problem? Be a man and leave America if it represents everything you hate. No one is forcing you to live here (unlike your favorite communist dictatorships). I hear people in France are a perfect match for your idiotology.

John Chuckman must be the guy in the "Mangina" photos I have seen passed around the net.
2002-03-01 02:20:32 PM  
Worst. Editorial. Ever. Transitions? Cohesiveness? Hello?
2002-03-01 02:21:47 PM  
What the...? I mean, first we get a Gennifer Flowers story from NewsMax, then we get this? Who's trying to stir things up today? It's like throwing rocks at a hornets nest.
2002-03-01 02:23:02 PM  
Just some noise to cancel out all the farking NewsMax posts.
2002-03-01 02:24:06 PM  
Great editorial from someone who thinks on their own. Stupid farkers.
2002-03-01 02:25:52 PM  
He can't leave America because it's the only country that's free enough to allow him to attack it and not lock him up.

Funny how these wanna-be-anarchists / sociopaths / extremists / power hungry / want *any* government other than the one that allows them to actually speak their minds.

Kinda reminds me of how N. Korea would have student uprising *pro*democracy... and get shot/killed/disappear and then students in S. Korea protesting for communism and they get benefits of free media press.
2002-03-01 02:25:57 PM  
>Be a man and leave America if it represents everything you >hate.

Uh-huh. Be a man and run from a country instead of addressing what's wrong with it, and trying to affect change. Very manly.
2002-03-01 02:26:04 PM  
"Yellow Times?" They should change their name to "Red Times."
2002-03-01 02:27:10 PM  
Yellow Times.org
Appropriately named.
Piss spewer.
2002-03-01 02:27:13 PM  
hahahahahahah this guy's a complete farkwit.

he's saying there's a clear parallel between bush's america and stalin's russia, and his example to prove this is the forced applause at the end of "the gulag archipelago" speech. if he's saying that those with dissenting opinions are stifled, why is he being allowed to write this shiat drivel?
2002-03-01 02:27:57 PM  
Cancelling out NewsMax... Uhm... there's always more YellowTimes posts than NewsMax posts.

I see both as too extreme to be legitamate voices.

They are both extremists with their own personal goals in mind. Usually involving ruling the planet and a harem of little boys.
2002-03-01 02:28:07 PM  
Wrong tagline. Should read "Ravaging assault on U.S. arrogance"

*runs for cover*
2002-03-01 02:28:40 PM  
Good article...he has strong, valid points that most people are too brainwashed or simply too scared to recognize (from a neutral position) as facts.
2002-03-01 02:29:30 PM  
Hey if it wasn't for U.S. arrogance, we'd only have French arrogance...
2002-03-01 02:29:33 PM  
When I took journalism classes in college, I learned that "yellow journalism" was a phrase that was coined around the beginning of the 20th century to refer to the inflammatory little rag sheets that were basically a lot of unfounded rumors and scandal-baiting. I have to agree, that's a bad choice for a name.
2002-03-01 02:29:54 PM  
In my mind, patriotism would be resisting people who whore our system and fark up our world standing, not kissing their asses. Calling out politicians for being crooked assholes and speaking out against it is not anti-Patriotism. Supporting them is.
2002-03-01 02:30:25 PM  
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NO ONE bashes America in front of Joe Don Baker! You guys stay here, I'm gonna teach this punk a lesson!

Oh Joe Don, so brave...
2002-03-01 02:30:59 PM  
Dalai Lama: What? He is saying that Stalin's Russia is the same as the US today..but it's not...no yes it is...He doesn't know what he is talking about.
2002-03-01 02:31:31 PM  
Toupsie: "Be a man and leave America if it represents everything you hate"

I should say the same thing to all anti-abortionists, people who want to censor albums, or people who believe you should only vote if you own land.

America represents different things to different people. It changes. About the only people who should leave are the ones who think America specifically represents *any*thing other than an experiment in representative democracy.

The article is over-wrought. We're not even at McCarthyism yet, let alone gulagsville. But you'd have to be a fool to see that we're not creeping in that direction.
2002-03-01 02:31:31 PM  

I bow before your words. Although simple, they reflect something that has never benn put so succinctly.

Thank you.
2002-03-01 02:32:06 PM  
I've got one word for that guy:

2002-03-01 02:32:30 PM  
Adolph Hitler - bodycount: 6 million "Holocaust"Joseph Stalin - bodycount 20 million "Red Purges"I thought the left was saying Bush was like their nemisis Hitler, but now he's more like their hero, Stalin. So which is it?
2002-03-01 02:33:09 PM  

You and Joe Don Baker are a true voice of reason and a blessing to these fark forums.
2002-03-01 02:33:18 PM  
Shuh: Yes...
2002-03-01 02:33:40 PM  
I'll never live down the shame of luring Elian's mom to her death with our "open arms for Cuban refugees" policy. What as bunch of jagoffs we are for making our country more desireable than a communist dictatorship.
2002-03-01 02:33:43 PM  
You gotta love when Fark links John Chuckman, author of such fine Yellowtimes articles such as ''The devil and George Bush'', ''Why Republicans have no sense of, and "Inspiration from the top: Observations on the president addressing the nation"
. Truely an American icon...
2002-03-01 02:34:27 PM  
Funny how everybody just closes their ears and go "nyayayayay" and ignores some very valid points about how this country will take absolutely NO blame for any of its fark ups.
2002-03-01 02:34:49 PM  
What a big fat disappointment America is today. An affluent, noisy, moral netherworld. A place where fundamentalist pitchmen in blow-dried coifs and Pan-Cake makeup plead to fill the moral void, but only add to the noise.

Don't forget the fundamentalist pitchmen in hemp clothes standing out on the street complaining about the spotted owl and hamburger meat and how the U.S. should raise taxes to 65% and give everyone health care so you can go to a doctor making minimum wage who will diagnose your flu symptoms as a hangnail, and then push you out the door into the garbage lined streets of a third world country.

There are people who want to see the U.S. as just that. A third world country. Why? Because they're jealous. Plain and simple as that.

Downcaste exactly... Are there people roaming around the streets beating up anyone who protests america? No. The reason that 99.99% of the population go about their daily business is because "Hey, I think things are good the way they are. Sure there's some screwups, but things are good in the end."
2002-03-01 02:35:16 PM  
"Axe-grinding" John Chuckman. Sheesh. Tell me all Canadians aren't like that, please.
2002-03-01 02:35:21 PM  
While not agreeing on the general opinion put forth by this guy, he does bring up some valid points. As great of a country as we are, there is always room for improvement. It isn't idiotic to try and change things, it means you care about the country.

Now this guy is obviously going a bit to far in many of his references, but a lot he mentions has been a problem for some time and looks to stay that way for awhile. Rigged elections, campaign contributions from unethical sources, corporate manipulation of our society, and many other things need to be truly looked at and changed.

WE are the greatest country in the world as far as I'm concerned, but that doesn't mean we don't have problems and issues that need to be changed, and it doesn't mean we get to ignore these things just because we are that great of a country...
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