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(NBC News)   Child labor isn't just for Third World countries anymore   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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1007 clicks; posted to Business » on 07 Dec 2022 at 2:55 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-07 1:44:13 AM  
Holy crap. Nebraska?
 
2022-12-07 2:11:17 AM  
Punishable by a fine means legal for a price.


....is what I'd like to say, but they're not even getting a fine. Their "punishment," such as it is, is to pinky-swear they'll never do it again, and to pay a friend or family member of the CEO to give the feds a quarterly report saying that they're totally not breaking their promise.
 
2022-12-07 2:30:58 AM  
The company should appeal to SCOTUS.  They'll probably rule child labor laws unconstitutional. RNC will pay for the lawyers.
 
2022-12-07 3:08:22 AM  
What this country needs, what any country needs, is a corporate death sentence.
 
2022-12-07 3:13:36 AM  
this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.
 
2022-12-07 4:06:52 AM  

King Something: Punishable by a fine means legal for a price.


....is what I'd like to say, but they're not even getting a fine. Their "punishment," such as it is, is to pinky-swear they'll never do it again, and to pay a friend or family member of the CEO to give the feds a quarterly report saying that they're totally not breaking their promise.


Those "rogue employees" are at it again!
 
2022-12-07 4:48:04 AM  

sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.


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2022-12-07 4:50:48 AM  
"Anymore," or "again."

Isnt just for 3rd world countries again.

Like it used to be.
 
2022-12-07 4:56:02 AM  

sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.


You've missed the point. This isn't about people under 18 having jobs in general. No one has an issue with that. This is about an employer violating labour laws preventing minors from working overnight shifts and with hazardous materials.
 
2022-12-07 5:06:33 AM  

MrBallou: The company should appeal to SCOTUS.  They'll probably rule child labor laws unconstitutional. RNC will pay for the lawyers.


Fixt:
The company should appeal to SCOTUS. They'll probably rule child labor laws unconstitutional. Matt Gaetz will pay for the lawyers.
 
2022-12-07 5:11:18 AM  

sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.


A slaughterhouse as a kid? Don't  you think that's  cruel to subject a kid to that?
 
2022-12-07 5:20:16 AM  

sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.


And you crawled to and from work uphill both ways, through snowstorms, and liked it.
 
2022-12-07 5:21:06 AM  

Gordon Bennett: sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.

You've missed the point. This isn't about people under 18 having jobs in general. No one has an issue with that. This is about an employer violating labour laws preventing minors from working overnight shifts and with hazardous materials.


Doesn't he always?
 
2022-12-07 5:36:54 AM  
Congress should force those essential kids back to work.
 
2022-12-07 5:51:38 AM  

sithon: Holy crap. Nebraska?


And they only found out about this because the kid's teacher noticed their hands were farked up from working with dangerous equipment and chemicals. How many adults saw this and said nothing?
 
2022-12-07 5:53:14 AM  

King Something: Punishable by a fine means legal for a price.


....is what I'd like to say, but they're not even getting a fine. Their "punishment," such as it is, is to pinky-swear they'll never do it again, and to pay a friend or family member of the CEO to give the feds a quarterly report saying that they're totally not breaking their promise.


The Feds know this which is why they will pop in at random to check themselves (because it happens more than it should). That's why that one auto plant was busted twice in a year.
 
2022-12-07 6:51:03 AM  
FTA:

In court filings, the company did not deny hiring children but attributed it to "rogue individuals" who presented fake identification with Social Security numbers that were verified by the federal government's E-Verify system.

The resolution comes about a month after the Department of Labor accused the company of employing at least 31 children on graveyard shifts in slaughterhouses in three states, where they were tasked with cleaning the killing floors and various machines - including meat and bone cutting saws and a grinding machine - according to the complaint, which noted that several children began their shifts at the facilities at 11 p.m. and worked until 5, 6 or 7 a.m, with some working up to six or seven days a week. At least three chiildren suffered chemical burns as a result of working in the slaughterhouses, according to that complaint.


My suspicion - one person over 18 gets a job which is easily E-verified, multiple siblings take turns at the shifts, and the foreman looks the other way because "those people all look the same."
 
2022-12-07 6:52:39 AM  

MrBallou: The company should appeal to SCOTUS.  They'll probably rule child labor laws unconstitutional. RNC will pay for the lawyers.


According to TFA, the underage workers got hired with fake social security numbers.

That usually means illegal immigrants. Pubs don't give a shiat about them.

If they did care about illegal immigration, they'd make the punishments against the places who hire them more severe.
 
2022-12-07 6:56:56 AM  

sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.


There was a farm work exemption in labor laws for a long time when I was growing up. When I was 14, we spent a good bit of the summer hauling hay.

It was nice to have the extra money, but by the end of the afternoon, you were too damn tired to go anywhere to spend it.
 
2022-12-07 7:51:18 AM  
Choose one of their C-Suite executives at random.
Beat them to death with iron rods in front of all the other C-Suite executives.
Make certain they know WHY.
Film it and make them watch it annually, on the anniversary.

If your company is managed in such a way that "Rogue Employees" can do this without you knowing about it then you are responsible and shall be punished for running you company so lazily in regards to child labor and safety laws, and apparently need some god-damned mother farking incentive.
 
2022-12-07 7:52:37 AM  

MrBallou: The company should appeal to SCOTUS.  They'll probably rule child labor laws unconstitutional. RNC will pay for the lawyers.


If Alito is citing a 17th century British guy in Dobbs we might as well us it across all cases.
 
2022-12-07 8:05:53 AM  
Children are best suited for places with high infection rates and where there is a greater chance for loss of limbs. They have much stronger immune systems and due to the fact that they are still growing, they have the best chance at regrowing any lost limbs.
 
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2022-12-07 8:41:17 AM  
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2022-12-07 8:47:29 AM  
They should pick one random executive at the company and Gitmo them. That's the only way you stop shiatty behaviour like this. Fines are just an entry on an accounting ledger.
 
2022-12-07 8:50:29 AM  
Just another example of job killing regulations we are always being told about.
 
2022-12-07 9:45:10 AM  
I like this weird but perverse notion that the US can't be a Third World country.
 
2022-12-07 10:04:58 AM  
The worst part? The kids can't quote this gig as a resume-builder - they're still going to have to find another slaughterhouse in which to intern now.

/sarcasm

Seriously, what's the point of having laws on the books if the consequences are inconsequential?
 
2022-12-07 10:08:44 AM  
Even in "safe" jobs, there are too many kids working hours that are too long at the bottom of the economic ladder. I was recently involved in some work at a middle school. It seemed like most of the kids had some kind of job doing nails, hanging drywall, stocking shelves, in fast food, and so on. I thought it was bad when my college aged kids' part-time job ended up being 40 to 50 hours per week. These fourteen year-olds juggling school and jobs that are sometimes 30 to 40 hours per week. Yes, some of them are handing a chunk of their weekly earnings over to the family to help keep the family afloat. The argument that middle school kids should be allowed to help their families is just a cold-blooded distraction from the fact that school kids should not be needed to help keep their families afloat. If they are, something is wrong with society and it's labor protections such as a minimum wage that is too low.
 
2022-12-07 10:11:37 AM  
Yeah, somebody(ies) needs to go to prison.  I'm on team "Had a job at 14 with a worker's permit" but it wasn't the overnight shift at a slaughterhouse during the school year.  I even "worked" in my grandfathers cabinet shop as a little kid handling power tools and driving a forklift, but looking back, grandpa was letting me play in his shop and was ready to kill everything in an instant.  He could have done everything faster and better himself and he was just teaching his grandson woodworking.

If it were just the one kid, maybe she looked old and did have a fake ID/SSC, when it's dozens of them the slaughterhouse knew what was going on... They knew to put them on the nightshift.

Then there's the parents... The whole reason I don't want kids is the responsibility that comes along with them.  I suspect a lot of the kids did have fake ID's and their parents were using them or at best "trying to make a man out of them"... even though they didn't have jobs themselves.
 
2022-12-07 11:38:27 AM  
so how come none of the strong arm robbers, car thieves, buglers, etc can "reaches agreement with the feds"

that involves NO ONE GOING TO JAIL AT ALL?

WTF?

child endangerment to earn a privet profit sounds like the exact kind of crime someone should rot in jail for.


fines for crimes = caste system inequality of upper caste can just pay to do what upper caste wishes to do, while plebs better keep their fooking noses clean or have their freedom taken.
 
2022-12-07 12:15:14 PM  

Harlee: sinko swimo: this is BS. i worked as a kid. near my house was a dump restaurant so that's where i worked. then for years i traveled 7 miles each way to work in a convenince/deli/liquor store. if a meat packing place was across the highway from my house i would have worked there. if a machine shop, et cetera. be thankful you could earn money and contribute.

And you crawled to and from work uphill both ways, through snowstorms, and liked it.


With an onion on his belt, as was the style at the time.
 
2022-12-07 1:41:26 PM  

PvtStash: so how come none of the strong arm robbers, car thieves, buglers, etc can "reaches agreement with the feds"

that involves NO ONE GOING TO JAIL AT ALL?

WTF?

child endangerment to earn a privet profit sounds like the exact kind of crime someone should rot in jail for.


fines for crimes = caste system inequality of upper caste can just pay to do what upper caste wishes to do, while plebs better keep their fooking noses clean or have their freedom taken.


Ah...you see, things would be a lot different if corporate "people" could get prison sentences. I mean, the corporation, found guilty of a crime, would actuall time...padlocks on the doors, out of business for the period of imprisonment. A bit more of a bite to it than a measly fine, eh?
 
2022-12-07 1:53:14 PM  

Gnaglor: Children are best suited for places with high infection rates and where there is a greater chance for loss of limbs. They have much stronger immune systems and due to the fact that they are still growing, they have the best chance at regrowing any lost limbs.


I don't know enough about biology to dispute this so it must be true.
 
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