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(Science.org)   DePalma accused of falsifying data on dinosaur-killing asteroid, ripping off Hitchcock in half his films   (science.org) divider line
    More: Awkward, Isotope analysis, Isotope, former collaborator Robert DePalma, entirely separate data set, paleontologist Melanie During, DePalma et al. paper, team's results, Scientific Reports  
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2022-12-07 6:14:25 AM  
FTA: "Something is fishy here," says Mauricio Barbi, a high energy physicist at the University of Regina who specializes in applying physics methods to paleontology.

There's something magnificent about an individual galaxies smarter than me using language I find trite.
 
2022-12-07 7:28:56 AM  
If they had pinpointed a year or something, I get the scoop. Spring, while a neat thing to find data for, doesn't seem particularly interesting.

Anyone know why the meteor hitting in spring is more compelling than a quick "oh interesting... anyway...."?
 
2022-12-07 7:56:27 AM  
Wait, is it the research that this nova special was on?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/series/dinosaur-apocalypse/

Cuz that shiat was jaw dropping
 
2022-12-07 8:25:42 AM  
Surely the first time in history a skeevy male has taken credit for a modest, hard-working woman's work.

/half of non-profits
 
2022-12-07 8:56:01 AM  

Quantumbunny: If they had pinpointed a year or something, I get the scoop. Spring, while a neat thing to find data for, doesn't seem particularly interesting.

Anyone know why the meteor hitting in spring is more compelling than a quick "oh interesting... anyway...."?


There are incredibly few jaw dropping PhD theses (yes, that's the plural of thesis, had to google) out there.
 
2022-12-07 9:00:37 AM  
You can't just make this stuff up!
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2022-12-07 9:31:33 AM  
Okay, but Phantom of the Paradise remains one of the all time great DePalma films.
 
2022-12-07 9:54:12 AM  

Quantumbunny: If they had pinpointed a year or something, I get the scoop. Spring, while a neat thing to find data for, doesn't seem particularly interesting.

Anyone know why the meteor hitting in spring is more compelling than a quick "oh interesting... anyway...."?


One of the big questions with the mass extinction is why some species survived but others didn't.  The time of year is a big factor in survival.  So a species that hibernates, for example, might be more able to survive if the event happens in the fall where they're naturally storing a lot of food as opposed to the spring when they need to eat a lot.
 
2022-12-07 9:55:44 AM  

Quantumbunny: If they had pinpointed a year or something, I get the scoop. Spring, while a neat thing to find data for, doesn't seem particularly interesting.

Anyone know why the meteor hitting in spring is more compelling than a quick "oh interesting... anyway...."?


ProNot for the layman but for other dino-nerds I could see it being important. Finding fossilized eggs could tell you which species were spring vs fall breeders. Paleobotanists care about stuff like pollen levels or which flowers were present.

Large parts of our present ecosystems are seasonal. Ancient ecosystems were undoubtedly the same, so knowing which season all the evidence present at Tanis comes from at probably helps a great deal.

Also, it explains why we find lots of fossilized peeps but little to none fossilized candy corn.
 
2022-12-07 9:59:26 AM  
Far less of a crime than that stupid Casualties of War movie.
 
2022-12-07 10:15:03 AM  
The raw data are missing, he says, because the scientist who ran the analyses died years prior to the paper's publication, and DePalma has been unable to recover them from his deceased collaborator's laboratory.

Bullshiat.
 
2022-12-07 10:44:16 AM  

Quantumbunny: If they had pinpointed a year or something, I get the scoop. Spring, while a neat thing to find data for, doesn't seem particularly interesting.

Anyone know why the meteor hitting in spring is more compelling than a quick "oh interesting... anyway...."?


It's interesting because it was that particular asteroid that was intended for Hitler, but they put the decimal point in the wrong place when sending it back.
 
2022-12-07 12:17:10 PM  

FLMountainMan: Surely the first time in history a skeevy male has taken credit for a modest, hard-working woman's work.


For some ineffable reason I'm siding with the woman in this spat
https://twitter.com/melanieduring


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I just gets a feeling.
 
2022-12-07 12:34:29 PM  

HairBolus: FLMountainMan: Surely the first time in history a skeevy male has taken credit for a modest, hard-working woman's work.

For some ineffable reason I'm siding with the woman in this spat
https://twitter.com/melanieduring


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I just gets a feeling.


Me too, but really is the sharpest knee I've ever seen.
 
2022-12-07 12:47:38 PM  

question_dj: Wait, is it the research that this nova special was on?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/series/dinosaur-apocalypse/

Cuz that shiat was jaw dropping


Yep it's the same site, but DePalma's research (Not During's) is the one under review, because even though he got the right conclusion, he seems to have gotten it from another researcher and then fabricated the data in order to publish before her.

He seems like a visionary at times, but like he cannot get out of his own way.  This study would have validated everything he claimed about his site, Tanis, and would have established his name forever in archeological history, but instead he may very well wound up drummed out of established scientific institutions forever based on his seemingly clumsy and obvious fraud.

What a waste.
 
2022-12-07 1:49:10 PM  

deadsanta: question_dj: Wait, is it the research that this nova special was on?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/series/dinosaur-apocalypse/

Cuz that shiat was jaw dropping

Yep it's the same site, but DePalma's research (Not During's) is the one under review, because even though he got the right conclusion, he seems to have gotten it from another researcher and then fabricated the data in order to publish before her.

He seems like a visionary at times, but like he cannot get out of his own way.  This study would have validated everything he claimed about his site, Tanis, and would have established his name forever in archeological history, but instead he may very well wound up drummed out of established scientific institutions forever based on his seemingly clumsy and obvious fraud.

What a waste.


Everything points to Tanis being one of the most important findings in paleontology that we could ever hope for, akin to finding the "missing link", so gloryhounds and other unscrupulous people are going to try to take advantage of that for fame or money.  It's unfortunate, because Tanis does appear legitimate, but DePalma's reputation has been casting a shadow over the site for quite a while.
 
2022-12-07 7:38:25 PM  

bhcompy: Everything points to Tanis being one of the most important findings in paleontology that we could ever hope for,


Unless you're digging in the wrong place.

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