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2022-12-05 11:04:50 PM  
An embarrassment to jurisprudence.
 
2022-12-06 3:01:59 AM  
Alito is such a cutup. More like a cu*tup, amiright?

This is SCOTUS unchained. This is who they are.
 
2022-12-06 5:09:12 AM  
a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.
 
2022-12-06 5:56:14 AM  
Gunny and alito are always the life of the Christmas party.
 
2022-12-06 5:56:37 AM  
Ginny dammit
 
2022-12-06 6:45:39 AM  

Lorelle: a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.


The ultimate protestant ethos is god is whatever want it to be.  Which should be pretty damn obvious from how many votes Herschel Walker is getting.


Of course SCOTUS knows this, which is why it's increasing establishing which Christian religions the law will enforce and which it will not.
 
2022-12-06 6:53:57 AM  

Lorelle: a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.


She herself is tattooed.
 
2022-12-06 7:10:41 AM  
Wow, sounds like he's feeling pretty untouchable.

Alito then joked that Kagan may also be familiar with the next website he mentioned.
"Next a Jewish person asks a Jewish photographer to take a photograph for his AshleyMadison.com," Alito said, referring to an online dating service geared toward people seeking extramarital relationships, which also drew some laughter from the audience.
"I'm not suggesting that - she knows a lot of things, I'm not suggesting that. OK - does he have to do it?" Alito continued.
 
2022-12-06 7:11:45 AM  
Don't quit your day job, Sam.
 
2022-12-06 7:22:06 AM  
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2022-12-06 7:22:07 AM  
Jesus farking christ, what in the actual fark is this.  And THESE are the people we have elevated to have the best judgement among us?    Like, ethnic jokes from the bench in full court?  Term limits please!  They obviously rot with age!
 
2022-12-06 7:23:48 AM  

propasaurus: Lorelle: a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.

She herself is tattooed.


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2022-12-06 7:26:04 AM  
Alito asked whether a Black Santa at the mall is obligated to take a picture with a child dressed up in a Ku Klux Klan outfit... Justice Elena Kagan asked whether the same applies regardless of whether the child is Black or white or any other characteristic. Alito quipped, "You do see a lot of Black children in Ku Klux Klan outfits, right? All the time," drawing scattered laughter.

This would seem to suggest that Mr Alito sees a lot of White children in Ku Klux Klan outfits.
 
2022-12-06 7:27:56 AM  
Alito hides behind walls of security, layers of security guards and isolates himself from the public.
Maybe not the most self aware person on SCOTUS.
 
2022-12-06 7:28:46 AM  

chitlenz: Jesus farking christ, what in the actual fark is this.  And THESE are the people we have elevated to have the best judgement among us?    Like, ethnic jokes from the bench in full court?  Term limits please!  They obviously rot with age!


"We" didn't elevate this asshat. Republicans did.
 
2022-12-06 7:29:53 AM  
We'll have to add Alito to a certain farker's list of favorite comedians.
It's a telling list....
 
2022-12-06 7:32:06 AM  
He wouldn't have said this if Ginsburg was still alive.
 
2022-12-06 7:34:22 AM  
So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.
 
2022-12-06 7:35:32 AM  
Waiting for the Alito Giuliani quote contest where no one can tell the difference.
 
2022-12-06 7:38:32 AM  

Gyrfalcon: He wouldn't have said this if Ginsburg was still alive.


That doesn't begin to make sense but typing sure is fun!
 
2022-12-06 7:38:58 AM  
I'll bet if alito didn't have an army of private security legions keeping him safe, he'd be a lot more polite.
 
2022-12-06 7:40:17 AM  
Does anybody else get the feeling this Lorie Smith character is just that? A character? Like Joe the Plumber back in 2008. A person put in a position to provide a "real life" example of an issue Republicans want to take advantage of.
 
2022-12-06 7:41:11 AM  
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NBC News . . .  suckers
 
2022-12-06 7:42:24 AM  
Perfectly Normal justice on a Perfectly Normal supreme court.
 
2022-12-06 7:42:41 AM  
I actively do not teach christian students. I don't want their gross parents and stupid ideas in my house. I should have the right to say, "No, I don't want to give you my service/product because your religion does horrible things to me and people like me."

I agree with this woman. We should have the right to deny service to christians. I know I already do this. Their ideas are dangerous for women and the disabled, ie people like me... Why should I be compelled to teach them voice or piano simply because I offer it to others in exchange for money?

This isn't the horrible thing people are making it out to be in my opinion.
 
2022-12-06 7:43:56 AM  

BitwiseShift: Waiting for the Alito Giuliani quote contest where no one can tell the difference.


"Who ate all the gabagool?"

"Hey Vinnie, tell my cousin to come ove hea."

You're right, it could be either one of them.
 
2022-12-06 7:43:56 AM  
It's not so much that he joked about them but that he used outrageous what-if examples like we did yesterday in that thread.  He's a hypocritical shiat-heel but this part of it is much ado about nothing.

So when they find in favor of this woman, can some law talking Farker give us some realistic hypothetical side effects of the ruling that will come back to bite SCROTUS in the ass (until they hypocritically undo the side effects only)?
 
2022-12-06 7:44:03 AM  

Tankerbell: I actively do not teach christian students. I don't want their gross parents and stupid ideas in my house. I should have the right to say, "No, I don't want to give you my service/product because your religion does horrible things to me and people like me."

I agree with this woman. We should have the right to deny service to christians. I know I already do this. Their ideas are dangerous for women and the disabled, ie people like me... Why should I be compelled to teach them voice or piano simply because I offer it to others in exchange for money?

This isn't the horrible thing people are making it out to be in my opinion.


Christianity goes against my beliefs
 
2022-12-06 7:45:51 AM  

Tankerbell: So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.


Tell me you don't belong to any disabled persons advocators groups without telling me you don't.
 
2022-12-06 7:46:16 AM  
The Extreme Court is a joke.  Largely because of Alito.
 
2022-12-06 7:48:12 AM  

Lorelle: a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.


Aren't there even rules against them taking like aspirin, and of course she never had premarital sex or she should be stoned to death...
 
2022-12-06 7:48:16 AM  
Black Santa would be a sweet name for a rapper
 
2022-12-06 7:48:24 AM  

suebhoney: Tankerbell: So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.

Tell me you don't belong to any disabled persons advocators groups without telling me you don't.


Wait are you telling me how I should act within my protected class? Do you moonlight as a republican who tells black people how they should act?
 
2022-12-06 7:48:41 AM  

Lorelle: a case weighing a web designer's bid to avoid working on same-sex weddings because she is a conservative evangelical Christian

If she truly is an evangelical Christian, she shouldn't work on the weddings of adulterers, fornicators, or divorced or tattooed people, either.


But those are rules that might apply to her. Evangelicals only care about the rules in the bible that apply to other people's behavior.
 
2022-12-06 7:50:05 AM  

RedZoneTuba: Don't quit your day job, Sam.


PLEASE quit your day job, Sam.  FTFY
 
2022-12-06 7:50:05 AM  
This is typical Alito.  You should see when he's bad.   He is way too stupid to not be someone's lapdog.
 
2022-12-06 7:50:25 AM  

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Is the transcript incorrect, or are you grasping at the lowest hanging fruit your tiny hands can reach?
 
2022-12-06 7:50:53 AM  
reading the transcript- it seems like he was making a joke with Kagan. it wasn't a racist joke - it wasn't a funny joke ... but it wasn't horrible

let's attack Alito for the shiat that matters
 
2022-12-06 7:51:06 AM  

Tankerbell: So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.


Reasonable accommodation.  If a person's issues are serious enough that you're going to have a hell of a time teaching them, it is not a reasonable accommodation to require you to take them on.  Nor is your home a public building that is required to be accessible to nearly anyone capable of some form of travel.  You're seeing ninjas in the bushes here
 
2022-12-06 7:54:55 AM  

sleze: It's not so much that he joked about them but that he used outrageous what-if examples like we did yesterday in that thread.  He's a hypocritical shiat-heel but this part of it is much ado about nothing.

So when they find in favor of this woman, can some law talking Farker give us some realistic hypothetical side effects of the ruling that will come back to bite SCROTUS in the ass (until they hypocritically undo the side effects only)?


"can some law talking Farker give us some realistic hypothetical side effects of the ruling that will come back to bite SCROTUS in the ass"

Just look two posts above yours  -- thats whats gonna happen. If SCOTUS sanctions being able to reject state public access laws based on personal beliefs, than sooner than later some folks are going to start using these very precedents to reject certain evangelical types.

They're fixing to tell the state that their civil rights laws are unenforceable if someone can draw up a religous argument upon which that can lean -- a complete 180° turn from the intent of the Establishment Clause.
 
2022-12-06 7:55:43 AM  

jaylectricity: Does anybody else get the feeling this Lorie Smith character is just that? A character? Like Joe the Plumber back in 2008. A person put in a position to provide a "real life" example of an issue Republicans want to take advantage of.


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2022-12-06 7:55:45 AM  

jaylectricity: Does anybody else get the feeling this Lorie Smith character is just that? A character? Like Joe the Plumber back in 2008. A person put in a position to provide a "real life" example of an issue Republicans want to take advantage of.


Considering she filed suit before even working as a web designer, I'd say yes.
 
2022-12-06 7:57:36 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Tankerbell: So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.

Reasonable accommodation.  If a person's issues are serious enough that you're going to have a hell of a time teaching them, it is not a reasonable accommodation to require you to take them on.  Nor is your home a public building that is required to be accessible to nearly anyone capable of some form of travel.  You're seeing ninjas in the bushes here


You're taking it too literally or at least holding the wrong things constant in the comparison. I am in a protected class that is often denied service simply due to infrastructure or lack thereof. I roll with it, lol wheelchair joke, and give my money to their competitors because that's how economics works. I also run a small business, wherein I don't service people I don't want to. I actually choose to deny christians access to my home and thus business because they are dangerous authoritarians who harm women and our rights. I am running afoul of the law by doing this, but I think someone would be hard pressed to win a case against a disabled vet compelling me to work. I'll just close up shop before I teach christians my art. That said, I actually support this woman in her SCOTUS case because I want the RIGHT to deny christians access to my home and business based on beliefs and religion. They -- christians -- are a diminishing portion of the US population. They want to make it easier to discriminate against them, please proceed.
 
2022-12-06 8:02:42 AM  

Tankerbell: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Tankerbell: So my husband, who's an accountant, mentioned that many other business laws are made/enforced based on the size of the company and whether or not it is widely held, or publicly traded. I think this is a case where a sole-proprietor should be allowed to pick and choose the projects they work on based on opinion or religion or whatever, but that cannot fly once you are anything larger than that. I pick and choose the performances and students I will teach based on personal preference. I don't know that I want to be forced to teach someone just because they are different in some way and demand that I open my home and my talent and skills and years of work to them, simply due to that fact.

I'm disabled, I run into bars and other venues that just cannot accommodate me. I go to their competitors down the block. It's that easy.

Reasonable accommodation.  If a person's issues are serious enough that you're going to have a hell of a time teaching them, it is not a reasonable accommodation to require you to take them on.  Nor is your home a public building that is required to be accessible to nearly anyone capable of some form of travel.  You're seeing ninjas in the bushes here

You're taking it too literally or at least holding the wrong things constant in the comparison. I am in a protected class that is often denied service simply due to infrastructure or lack thereof. I roll with it, lol wheelchair joke, and give my money to their competitors because that's how economics works. I also run a small business, wherein I don't service people I don't want to. I actually choose to deny christians access to my home and thus business because they are dangerous authoritarians who harm women and our rights. I am running afoul of the law by doing this, but I think someone would be hard pressed to win a case against a disabled vet compelling me to work. I'll just close up shop before I teach christians my art. That said, I actually support this wom ...


And what happens when there are only 2 options available, and both refuse to serve you?
 
2022-12-06 8:02:51 AM  
Geeze, let Mary Kay run her pointless business into the ground.  This just gives the Nazis another hero.  I'd rather let the public just shun her failed company without giving her the opportunity to play victim.  This is not the same as an government official refusing to do her job, or a teacher refusing to teach.  This is about an idiot who is trying to run a business by turning business away.  Let her rot in her bile.
 
2022-12-06 8:04:23 AM  

Armchair_Invective: Geeze, let Mary Kay run her pointless business into the ground.  This just gives the Nazis another hero.  I'd rather let the public just shun her failed company without giving her the opportunity to play victim.  This is not the same as an government official refusing to do her job, or a teacher refusing to teach.  This is about an idiot who is trying to run a business by turning business away.  Let her rot in her bile.


We are leaving her alone.
There literally is no damaged party in this lawsuit.
She is suing the state to get an advisory opinion for an action she hasn't even taken. Her website company doesn't do wedding sites at all. She's going to do that in the future, and she is pre-emptively suing to get the right to discriminate prior to starting business in the first place.
 
2022-12-06 8:05:51 AM  

Elliot8654: And what happens when there are only 2 options available, and both refuse to serve you?


I call it the south and I start making plans to move. And hey, that's just where I am right this minute.

If you think where I am in Florida is some bastion of accommodation, I have a bunch of swampland to sell ya ;)
 
2022-12-06 8:06:12 AM  

Marcos P: Black Santa would be a sweet name for a rapper


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Y'all gon' make me "Ho! Ho! Ho!"
Up in here!
Up in here!
 
2022-12-06 8:08:26 AM  

Tankerbell: Elliot8654: And what happens when there are only 2 options available, and both refuse to serve you?

I call it the south and I start making plans to move. And hey, that's just where I am right this minute.

If you think where I am in Florida is some bastion of accommodation, I have a bunch of swampland to sell ya ;)


Plan to move? But the 2 moving companies refuse to serve you because "we don't cater to the disabled".
And the 3 real estate companies won't list a house from a disabled person cuz they're way too difficult to sell.

There is a reason public companies have to accommodate the public.
 
2022-12-06 8:12:10 AM  

Tankerbell: I actually support this woman in her SCOTUS case because I want the RIGHT to deny christians access to my home and business based on beliefs and religion. They -- christians -- are a diminishing portion of the US population. They want to make it easier to discriminate against them, please proceed.


If they'd read that stupid farking fairy tale book they all have stuffed up their arses, they would see it expressly warns them about doing this shiat and what the end result is.
(Narrator: it's not their salvation that happens).

Anyway, what is it they say?  Never interrupt your enemy while they make a mistake?

Yeah, That.
 
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