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2022-12-06 7:44:20 AM  
Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.
 
2022-12-06 8:01:42 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.


Miller's antics would have been in line with someone taking the temporary Compound-V like Hughie and Billy. They both went a bit nuts. The writers could have easily had someone go psychotic like Ezra Miller has no one would have batted an eye.

Ezra Miller's actions would have been situation normal for a supe at Vought.
 
2022-12-06 8:16:52 AM  
That reminds me.  I need to buy a new trench coat so I can go around town disappointing people.
 
2022-12-06 8:49:32 AM  
Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?
 
2022-12-06 8:53:16 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.


Antics?

That's like saying a serial bank robbery partook in some tomfoolery.

Don't casually reframe his crimes.
 
2022-12-06 9:01:46 AM  
We need to talk about Ezra.
 
2022-12-06 9:04:15 AM  
Flash!
Ah-ah
Saviour of the Doordash!

Flash!
Ah-ah
Model for Lulumon!
 
2022-12-06 9:08:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?


Who knows. There is some awful submitter on Fark that keeps on submitting headlines about those awful CW shows based in the DC universe. Maybe they're one of those fans.
 
2022-12-06 9:09:05 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?


I'm into DC's stable of heroes.  The Flash is kind of neat. The villains are pretty meh, but I really enjoy Manapul / Buccellato's work - it's so vivid, for comic work, both the coloring and the linework. Grant Gustin does a decent job on the screen as Flash, not sure why they had to pull out this douche to take Flash to the big screen.
 
2022-12-06 9:09:11 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.


Seriously. Why they didn't boot him to replace is baffling.
 
2022-12-06 9:10:01 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?


Well, more likely amped for the return of BatKeaton (and to a lesser extent BatFleck).
 
2022-12-06 9:18:04 AM  
I'm looking forward to this movie, just disappointed no GL/Flash storyline.
 
2022-12-06 9:30:45 AM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.

Antics?

That's like saying a serial bank robbery partook in some tomfoolery.

Don't casually reframe his crimes.


Wilfully inciting a fracas
Conspiracy to commit an affray
Unauthorized rumpus.
Assorted shenanigans and goings-on
 
2022-12-06 9:32:47 AM  

PerpetualPeristalsis: We need to talk about Ezra.


I know someone better than him.
 
2022-12-06 9:38:40 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: PerpetualPeristalsis: We need to talk about Ezra.

I know someone better than him.


Good.
 
2022-12-06 9:41:08 AM  

starsrift: HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?

I'm into DC's stable of heroes.  The Flash is kind of neat. The villains are pretty meh, but I really enjoy Manapul / Buccellato's work - it's so vivid, for comic work, both the coloring and the linework. Grant Gustin does a decent job on the screen as Flash, not sure why they had to pull out this douche to take Flash to the big screen.


I get enjoying a particular era of art even for an IP that I'm not too in to, but The Flash has just always kind of been a one note hero to me, basically another Aquaman. They juiced his powers throughout to give him some options beyond just running fast, but it's still kind of meh.

I don't know if he's a useful hook to get kids in to a theater.
 
2022-12-06 9:45:09 AM  

puckrock2000: HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?

Well, more likely amped for the return of BatKeaton (and to a lesser extent BatFleck).


This is sounding a bit like Spiderman: No Way Home.  Are we going to get different dimensions coming together?
 
2022-12-06 9:45:42 AM  
The only reason anybody gave a single fark about this turd was the return of Michael Keaton's Batman.

I'll fast forward to that part when it comes out on HBO Max six weeks after it bombs in cinemas
 
2022-12-06 9:47:08 AM  
I know Ezra sucks, but at least the Flash franchise is getting rebooted with this one. Odd choice to make but I guess that's why they've been working on this movie for about ten years. Really ironing out the details, making sure there's no plot holes.
 
2022-12-06 9:48:58 AM  
All it took was time.  When this idiot was first revealed to be a giant douchebag, everybody thought his career and the movie were done.  A few months later, the premiere gets moved up a week.  Juist give it time, and people will forget all about the bad stuff, or at least shrug it off.
 
2022-12-06 9:49:26 AM  

PirateKing: DeathByGeekSquad: Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.

Antics?

That's like saying a serial bank robbery partook in some tomfoolery.

Don't casually reframe his crimes.

Wilfully inciting a fracas
Conspiracy to commit an affray
Unauthorized rumpus.
Assorted shenanigans and goings-on


The Breakfast Club (1985) - Ruckus
Youtube zEHczKoBM5s
 
2022-12-06 9:59:22 AM  

starsrift: HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?

I'm into DC's stable of heroes.  The Flash is kind of neat. The villains are pretty meh, but I really enjoy Manapul / Buccellato's work - it's so vivid, for comic work, both the coloring and the linework. Grant Gustin does a decent job on the screen as Flash, not sure why they had to pull out this douche to take Flash to the big screen.


A lot of the executives at WB are still operating under the idea that television is less prestigious than film and someone at WB decided years ago that Ezra Miller is a future movie star and Grant Gustin is a tv actor. That perception has persisted even though lots of "movie stars" have worked in television. I think it also has something to do with the profitability of movies versus television. Movies get huge box offices while television only has ratings to point to.

The DC offices have also been set up to compete with each other for resources and characters for a long time. There is a Batman office, Superman office, every other character television office, every other character movie office and the animation office. They are apparently changing things but it has looked really dysfunctional for years. That is why lots of their decisions look kind of self defeating for so long.

Batman and Superman should have been one of the most profitable movies for WB ever, two of the most well known superhero property ever created. But it took them decades to do it because their Batman and Superman offices couldn't agree on a script because they did not want their property to lose or look bad. They then rushed a script out to launch their own cinematic universe to ride the superhero wave that Marvel had created and wound up damaging their properties.

tldr: WB executives are short sighted and bad at creative decisions.
 
2022-12-06 10:11:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?


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2022-12-06 10:13:35 AM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.

Antics?

That's like saying a serial bank robbery partook in some tomfoolery.

Don't casually reframe his crimes.


Sorry about the shenanigans.
 
2022-12-06 10:15:13 AM  
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2022-12-06 10:23:05 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: All it took was time.  When this idiot was first revealed to be a giant douchebag, everybody thought his career and the movie were done.  A few months later, the premiere gets moved up a week.  Juist give it time, and people will forget all about the bad stuff, or at least shrug it off.


Hell, he could run on a GOP ticket >.>
 
2022-12-06 10:23:48 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: PerpetualPeristalsis: We need to talk about Ezra.

I know someone better than him.


Two responses:

1.  Well played; and,
2. Aren't most people?
 
2022-12-06 10:30:43 AM  

hostile1: starsrift: HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?

I'm into DC's stable of heroes.  The Flash is kind of neat. The villains are pretty meh, but I really enjoy Manapul / Buccellato's work - it's so vivid, for comic work, both the coloring and the linework. Grant Gustin does a decent job on the screen as Flash, not sure why they had to pull out this douche to take Flash to the big screen.

A lot of the executives at WB are still operating under the idea that television is less prestigious than film and someone at WB decided years ago that Ezra Miller is a future movie star and Grant Gustin is a tv actor. That perception has persisted even though lots of "movie stars" have worked in television. I think it also has something to do with the profitability of movies versus television. Movies get huge box offices while television only has ratings to point to.

The DC offices have also been set up to compete with each other for resources and characters for a long time. There is a Batman office, Superman office, every other character television office, every other character movie office and the animation office. They are apparently changing things but it has looked really dysfunctional for years. That is why lots of their decisions look kind of self defeating for so long.

Batman and Superman should have been one of the most profitable movies for WB ever, two of the most well known superhero property ever created. But it took them decades to do it because their Batman and Superman offices couldn't agree on a script because they did not want their property to lose or look bad. They then rushed a script out to launch their own cinematic universe to ride the superhero wave that Marvel had created and wound up damaging their properties.

tldr: WB executives are short sighted and bad at creative decisions.


They also wanted to jump to some of the most epic storylines without laying out the foundation.
Bight to Batman vs Superman.
Right to Darkseid
Having a limp wristed Lex didn't help since the character is so overused anyway.

They wanted their big Avengers event before setting the stage.
 
2022-12-06 10:52:44 AM  
hostile1:

lot of the executives at WB are still operating under the idea that television is less prestigious than film and someone at WB decided years ago that Ezra Miller is a future movie star and Grant Gustin is a tv actor. That perception has persisted even though lots of "movie stars" have worked in television. I think it also has something to do with the profitability of movies versus television. Movies get huge box offices while television only has ratings to point to.

It's boomer thinking.
Folks who need to be removed from the industry, like, yesterday.
 
2022-12-06 11:08:26 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: starsrift: HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?

I'm into DC's stable of heroes.  The Flash is kind of neat. The villains are pretty meh, but I really enjoy Manapul / Buccellato's work - it's so vivid, for comic work, both the coloring and the linework. Grant Gustin does a decent job on the screen as Flash, not sure why they had to pull out this douche to take Flash to the big screen.

I get enjoying a particular era of art even for an IP that I'm not too in to, but The Flash has just always kind of been a one note hero to me, basically another Aquaman. They juiced his powers throughout to give him some options beyond just running fast, but it's still kind of meh.

I don't know if he's a useful hook to get kids in to a theater.


No, Flash is very one-note. He was supposed to be the peppy wisecracking DC counterpart to Marvel's Spiderman, but superhero stories are told about the villains. "Smart" heroes like Batman and Spiderman and Witchblade and Iron Man and other science-y/detective-y sorts will always have more devious, interesting villains that can build better stories. Or emotionally complex heroes like Wolverine or Green Lantern or Batman (again) or Spawn. (This is why Batman is one of the best-selling franchises). Those get interesting villains, which makes for interesting stories. Twats like Flash and Superman and Punisher are "turn brain off, watch neat things" stuff.

They play up Flash's alter-ego as a forensic technician in the Grant Gustin show, which was a great choice, it helps introduce mystery and allows the story to build some suspense and twist.

/ Hulk might've fallen under the "smart", but his run with Jeph Loeb, among others... sigh.
 
2022-12-06 11:11:48 AM  
The only reason anyone is going to watch this is because we'll have a far superior Batman than Affleck in this picture.

/fark WBD for axing the Batgirl film, or else we'd have seen him sooner
 
2022-12-06 11:13:30 AM  
I know more people that would go to another Fyre Festival than see this
 
2022-12-06 11:15:34 AM  
Thank god they canceled that Batgirl movie though, no way it would have made money.

Best to give this violent lunatic another chance.
 
2022-12-06 11:28:22 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are people really amped for The Flash? Are there Flash Heads out there?


They call them Flash Bubs.  The guys anyway, the girls are Flashiates.
 
2022-12-06 11:44:57 AM  
It allegedly tested better with audiences than any other DC movie so it's getting released. When max profit is reached, Ezra Miller will be gone from the franchise faster than a Batgirl movie.
 
2022-12-06 11:58:52 AM  
Shut up, Iris.

Wait, what?
 
2022-12-06 12:02:54 PM  

TappingTheVein: It allegedly tested better with audiences than any other DC movie so it's getting released. When max profit is reached, Ezra Miller will be gone from the franchise faster than a Batgirl movie.


In the highly unlikely event that the movie becomes a huge hit and the public decides they love Miller in the role, there'll be talk about how Ezra wasn't in a good place but got professional help at one of those super effective celebrity rehab clinics, everything's all better now, and boy oh boy aren't you excited for Flash 2?

Again, HIGHLY UNLIKELY. But if there's a promise of more money, Hollywood can forgive anything, and will put a lot of effort into downplaying and distracting until you'll forgive anything too.
 
2022-12-06 12:15:43 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: The Flash has just always kind of been a one note hero to me, basically another Aquaman. They juiced his powers throughout to give him some options beyond just running fast,


The Flash's true superpower is that he cares:

Justice league unlimited, Flash and Trickster
Youtube 5ekMrjKrB_Y
 
2022-12-06 12:26:57 PM  
GoG3 is going to make so much money that the Flash will never come close. I think Flash will be a success financially, but the difference between the two is all people will talk about.

As for the WB mgmt, they are correct that film is greater than tv/streaming. The pandemic showed that the current streaming payment models are closer to old school Direct-to-video money than film-in-theater money. Heck, Disney's on-demand rental style for Black Widow, while monetarily better than the Nerflix/HBOMax/Hulu subscription model, was killed with data and lawsuits.
 
2022-12-06 12:56:10 PM  

McGrits: GoG3 is going to make so much money that the Flash will never come close. I think Flash will be a success financially, but the difference between the two is all people will talk about.

As for the WB mgmt, they are correct that film is greater than tv/streaming. The pandemic showed that the current streaming payment models are closer to old school Direct-to-video money than film-in-theater money. Heck, Disney's on-demand rental style for Black Widow, while monetarily better than the Nerflix/HBOMax/Hulu subscription model, was killed with data and lawsuits.


Dwayne "The Rock" was barely able to not tank Black Adam. And make no mistake, 90% of that films BO take was on account of his peeps and the monster amount of personal PR he put into putting butts on seats.
This thing aint getting anywhere near that. WB is gettin' hosed on this one.
 
2022-12-06 3:22:46 PM  

Bslim: 90% of that films BO take


It was BO, alright
 
2022-12-06 4:16:03 PM  
The Flash actor can be easily replaced.
A Flashpoint kind of event.
He enters the timestream as one actor and exits as another due to reverse flash meddling.
 
2022-12-06 5:16:47 PM  

EdgeRunner: TappingTheVein: It allegedly tested better with audiences than any other DC movie so it's getting released. When max profit is reached, Ezra Miller will be gone from the franchise faster than a Batgirl movie.

In the highly unlikely event that the movie becomes a huge hit and the public decides they love Miller in the role, there'll be talk about how Ezra wasn't in a good place but got professional help at one of those super effective celebrity rehab clinics, everything's all better now, and boy oh boy aren't you excited for Flash 2?

Again, HIGHLY UNLIKELY. But if there's a promise of more money, Hollywood can forgive anything, and will put a lot of effort into downplaying and distracting until you'll forgive anything too.


O.J. Simpson hasn't acted in a film since The Naked Gun 33⅓.  So they won't forgive everything.
 
2022-12-06 5:48:23 PM  

bluorangefyre: EdgeRunner: TappingTheVein: It allegedly tested better with audiences than any other DC movie so it's getting released. When max profit is reached, Ezra Miller will be gone from the franchise faster than a Batgirl movie.

In the highly unlikely event that the movie becomes a huge hit and the public decides they love Miller in the role, there'll be talk about how Ezra wasn't in a good place but got professional help at one of those super effective celebrity rehab clinics, everything's all better now, and boy oh boy aren't you excited for Flash 2?

Again, HIGHLY UNLIKELY. But if there's a promise of more money, Hollywood can forgive anything, and will put a lot of effort into downplaying and distracting until you'll forgive anything too.

O.J. Simpson hasn't acted in a film since The Naked Gun 33⅓.  So they won't forgive everything.


A couple murders ans an armed robbery will do that to you.
 
2022-12-06 5:54:04 PM  

Dick Gozinya: AAAAGGGGHHHH: PerpetualPeristalsis: We need to talk about Ezra.

I know someone better than him.

Good.


See, this is why I will always love Fark. You kids are alright 👍
 
2022-12-06 6:03:43 PM  

Tax Boy: HotWingConspiracy: The Flash has just always kind of been a one note hero to me, basically another Aquaman. They juiced his powers throughout to give him some options beyond just running fast,

The Flash's true superpower is that he cares:

[YouTube video: Justice league unlimited, Flash and Trickster]


and that's the reason the movie will probably fail.  because they'll be too busy with action scenes to have any intelligence.
 
2022-12-06 6:19:53 PM  

houstondragon: Farking Clown Shoes: Assuming he doesn't kidnap any more families by next June.

If someone suggested including Miller's antics in a The Boys plot line, they'd be rejected for being too outlandish.

Seriously. Why they didn't boot him to replace is baffling.


Dick Sargent no longer available.
 
2022-12-06 6:30:48 PM  

DecemberNitro: Bslim: 90% of that films BO take

It was BO, alright


I will be the heretic and and say it was "ok".

about 1/3 of the movie didn't make sense even within its own logic.

GG's Flash would have talked Black Adam off the edge and not destroyed significant parts of the city (killing a bunch of people)
 
2022-12-06 7:23:14 PM  
Dude is facing potential jail time for sex crimes. Doesn't matter how much you've spent, releasing this movie with that hanging over your lead is a terrible idea.
 
2022-12-06 7:32:46 PM  

bluorangefyre: EdgeRunner: TappingTheVein: It allegedly tested better with audiences than any other DC movie so it's getting released. When max profit is reached, Ezra Miller will be gone from the franchise faster than a Batgirl movie.

In the highly unlikely event that the movie becomes a huge hit and the public decides they love Miller in the role, there'll be talk about how Ezra wasn't in a good place but got professional help at one of those super effective celebrity rehab clinics, everything's all better now, and boy oh boy aren't you excited for Flash 2?

Again, HIGHLY UNLIKELY. But if there's a promise of more money, Hollywood can forgive anything, and will put a lot of effort into downplaying and distracting until you'll forgive anything too.

O.J. Simpson hasn't acted in a film since The Naked Gun 33⅓.  So they won't forgive everything.


OJ wasn't a golden goose who guaranteed millions at the box office just by slapping his name on a movie poster. If he had been, his acquittal would have been trumpeted as proof he didn't do it, and now please go back to loving him and his new movie with Johnny Depp directed by Roman Polanski.

It's the difference between Gina Carano and Letitia Wright. Despite playing a popular character, Carano was a terrible actress who dragged down every scene. She was an easy discard after she went anti-vax and transphobic on Twitter. But although she showed support for the same viewpoints, Disney clearly felt Wright was crucial to their plans for continuing the Black Panther series without Chadwick Boseman, so instead of proudly announcing to the world that the Mouse House has no tolerance for alt-right ignorance, they convinced Wright to fall in line and then acted like she never did anything wrong.

In Hollywood, everyone is innocent until proven unprofitable.
 
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