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(CNN)   Burgers, pizzas and highly processed foods linked to early mental decline. However, subby eats these foods and the glarf that didn't go with the basket has fullen the what   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-12-05 5:52:58 PM  
Oh, it's by % of daily caloric intake?

Easy. Just chug a pint of heavy cream every time you eat a hotdog.
 
2022-12-05 5:55:34 PM  
That explains why subby and the mods don't remember a virtual clone of this article last week.
 
2022-12-05 6:38:38 PM  
n.neurology.orgView Full Size

September 06, 2022; 99 (10) RESEARCH ARTICLES
Association of Ultraprocessed Food Consumption With Risk of Dementia
 
2022-12-05 6:41:10 PM  
You can pry my burger from cold, limp, lifeless hands that are twitching.

/ Screeep!
 
2022-12-05 6:44:18 PM  
Robert Lustig, M.D., M.S.L. - "Processed Food: An Experiment That Failed"
Youtube pvgxNDuQ5DI

Processed Food: An Experiment That Failed
 
2022-12-05 7:06:32 PM  
"Weird Al" Yankovic - I'll Be Mellow When I'm Dead
Youtube pS8Hi-HAIgs
 
2022-12-05 7:12:03 PM  
Fat drunk and stupid
Youtube ZPH-AEiRYuU
 
2022-12-05 7:17:45 PM  
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,mashurbitries.
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!
 
2022-12-05 8:17:22 PM  
Well, having dementia will put me at about the same cognitive ability as most folks around me here in Texas.
 
2022-12-05 8:40:17 PM  

mistahtom: [n.neurology.org image 640x162]
September 06, 2022; 99 (10) RESEARCH ARTICLES
Association of Ultraprocessed Food Consumption With Risk of Dementia


They followed 72,083 people for ten years and found 518 cases of dementia. It seems that dementia is not very common; less than 1% developed it. Not woth worrying about.
BTW, what's ultraprocessed about a hamburger? Take some meat, grind it, fry it.
 
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2022-12-05 8:46:50 PM  

Buckerlin: mistahtom: [n.neurology.org image 640x162]
September 06, 2022; 99 (10) RESEARCH ARTICLES
Association of Ultraprocessed Food Consumption With Risk of Dementia

They followed 72,083 people for ten years and found 518 cases of dementia. It seems that dementia is not very common; less than 1% developed it. Not woth worrying about.
BTW, what's ultraprocessed about a hamburger? Take some meat, grind it, fry it.


FOOD BAD! BAD!! FOOD BAD !!!!
 
2022-12-05 8:48:49 PM  

Buckerlin: mistahtom: [n.neurology.org image 640x162]
September 06, 2022; 99 (10) RESEARCH ARTICLES
Association of Ultraprocessed Food Consumption With Risk of Dementia

They followed 72,083 people for ten years and found 518 cases of dementia. It seems that dementia is not very common; less than 1% developed it. Not woth worrying about.
BTW, what's ultraprocessed about a hamburger? Take some meat, grind it, fry it.


Here, try this #12 from McDonalds breakfast menu. It's a steak, egg, and cheese on a bagel sandwich.

Actually I love it, just experimentally.
 
2022-12-05 8:54:02 PM  
Big Cheeseburgers & Good French Fries - Blaze Foley
Youtube upgUlhujdDQ
 
2022-12-05 9:08:08 PM  
Define "linked".  Caused?  Inferred?

Or is it more like people who stress too much are also the ones that eat fast food, and it's the stress that kills them?

/and journalism hits a new low
//again
 
2022-12-05 9:50:28 PM  

mistahtom: [YouTube video: Robert Lustig, M.D., M.S.L. - "Processed Food: An Experiment That Failed"]
Processed Food: An Experiment That Failed


This. Sugar is the devil. The sweet, delicious devil.
 
2022-12-05 9:52:33 PM  

OrionXVI: Define "linked".  Caused?  Inferred?

Or is it more like people who stress too much are also the ones that eat fast food, and it's the stress that kills them?

/and journalism hits a new low
//again


Caused means caused. Linked just means correlation. Inferred makes no sense here. Maybe reading and science just aren't for you.
 
2022-12-05 11:28:28 PM  

aleister_greynight: That explains why subby and the mods don't remember a virtual clone of this article last week.


I'm sure you've noticed this is a commonality on the less trafficked tabs like food and stem. I've seen the exact same article posted separately an hour apart, numerous times. Sometimes they eventually get the greenlight redirect. I think it might have something to do with that 'submitted links approved' number, but what do I know? I just read the articles like it was my grandpa's playboys.
 
2022-12-06 12:15:00 AM  

chitownmike: [YouTube video: Fat drunk and stupid]


But it makes dealing with reality much easier.
 
2022-12-06 12:17:43 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,mashurbitries.
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!


Spotted the Vogon .
 
2022-12-06 12:45:29 AM  

Buckerlin: mistahtom: [n.neurology.org image 640x162]
September 06, 2022; 99 (10) RESEARCH ARTICLES
Association of Ultraprocessed Food Consumption With Risk of Dementia

They followed 72,083 people for ten years and found 518 cases of dementia. It seems that dementia is not very common; less than 1% developed it. Not woth worrying about.
BTW, what's ultraprocessed about a hamburger? Take some meat, grind it, fry it.


McDonalds isn't food.
 
2022-12-06 1:18:20 AM  
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2022-12-06 6:33:23 AM  
Surely, this will be the time that people listen to the scientists/doctors that tell them that processed food is poison.  Surely.
 
2022-12-06 7:02:12 AM  
So what does this count as?
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2022-12-06 10:35:00 AM  

The Weekend Baker: Surely, this will be the time that people listen to the scientists/doctors that tell them that processed food is poison.  Surely.


Worked with smoking.
 
2022-12-06 10:56:17 AM  

mr0x: The Weekend Baker: Surely, this will be the time that people listen to the scientists/doctors that tell them that processed food is poison.  Surely.

Worked with smoking.


People still buy cigarettes, so not entirely.  And then vaping exploded onto the scene, and people seemed to forget the warnings.  Again.
 
2022-12-06 11:22:46 AM  

The Weekend Baker: Surely, this will be the time that people listen to the scientists/doctors that tell them that processed food is poison.  Surely.


Mistahtom's video is from 2017 and shows we have made progress.

But it also shows exactly what the drags are on future progress. The main one is poverty. Processed food is significantly cheaper than real food. Additionally poor people tend to live in food deserts, so even if people know better and are willing to burn a chunk of their meager budget on real food they may literally find it impossible to do so.

Other than addressing poverty and food deserts we really need to stop subsidizing farking corn.
 
2022-12-06 12:49:20 PM  

Boudyro: The main one is poverty. Processed food is significantly cheaper than real food. Additionally poor people tend to live in food deserts, so even if people know better and are willing to burn a chunk of their meager budget on real food they may literally find it impossible to do so.


The great thing about the former (processed food being cheaper than real food) is that it only harms the people who believe it.  I used to participate in that debate here, offering up a variety of examples of how you can eat healthy on a meager budget (I finally started eating healthy post-cancer, when I was so poor I was on the brink of bankruptcy).  The result was never a "Hey man, thanks for the suggestions."  It was always a string of "Yeah, buts..." which all boiled down to excuses.  People who believe as you do are as unlikely to be swayed from your belief as an anti-vaxxer will be convinced that Ivermectin is useless, so I don't bother anymore.  It's the internet, and people are going to believe what they want to believe.

As for the latter (food deserts), I've lived in them when I was poor, and I live in one now (no longer poor, but drive almost 40 miles round trip to get to the nearest grocery store, with only convenience stores and fast food in between).  Once I decided my health was important to me, I stopped using it as an excuse.
 
2022-12-06 8:59:14 PM  

The Weekend Baker: Boudyro: The main one is poverty. Processed food is significantly cheaper than real food. Additionally poor people tend to live in food deserts, so even if people know better and are willing to burn a chunk of their meager budget on real food they may literally find it impossible to do so.

The great thing about the former (processed food being cheaper than real food) is that it only harms the people who believe it.  I used to participate in that debate here, offering up a variety of examples of how you can eat healthy on a meager budget (I finally started eating healthy post-cancer, when I was so poor I was on the brink of bankruptcy).  The result was never a "Hey man, thanks for the suggestions."  It was always a string of "Yeah, buts..." which all boiled down to excuses.  People who believe as you do are as unlikely to be swayed from your belief as an anti-vaxxer will be convinced that Ivermectin is useless, so I don't bother anymore.  It's the internet, and people are going to believe what they want to believe.

As for the latter (food deserts), I've lived in them when I was poor, and I live in one now (no longer poor, but drive almost 40 miles round trip to get to the nearest grocery store, with only convenience stores and fast food in between).  Once I decided my health was important to me, I stopped using it as an excuse.


You're wrong.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/healthy-vs-unhealthy-diet-costs-1-50-more/

Or from the video upthread:

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That chart on the far right is healthy food costs (green line) vs less healthy costs.

And that's just a broad analysis at the country level. Not looking at the costs associated with people like you yourself mention who have to make extraordinary effort to get to where they can buy healthy food. Or that of they have a local story it costs more to get the food there.


You're also not grasping that it's cost per calorie. A box of Kraft Mac costs around a dollar and gives you 750 calories before you add milk and butter. A pint of fresh strawberries costs at least $3 and gets you 114 calories. To get 750 calories of strawberries costs $19 and change.

Lettuce? Prices fluctuate but average out to around $1. 800 grams in one head, no mention in my source if thats only the edible bits. That comes to 112 calories in a head of lettuce -- more that six and half heads to equal the mac's calories, at a cost of $7.

Now it's perfectly fair to argue most of us don't need all the calories we're scarfing. That's absolutely true. But for simplicity's sake let's pretend we can only eat one of the foods I've listed so far against our recommended caloric intake of 2k/day.

Strawberries: $52.63
Lettuce: $17.86
Kraft Mac: $2.66

Lets add some more "cheap" healthy foods:

Kidney beans: $4.72
White rice: $4.61


Feeling snacky? 2k calories of Doritos is less than a bag $5

2k calories of carrots? Somewhere around $10 for the low end.

The reason you didn't notice is that your caloric intake probably dropped precipitously with your health scare compared to what you used to eat.

Relying on everyone to have a wake up call about their health is inherently stupid public policy. It's well established that the best way to get a lot of people to change their behavior is spam education on what to do and make it as easy as possible for folks to do It. Not to terrify them into desperate actions.
 
2022-12-06 9:24:51 PM  
I'll say it.

Good job subby. I enjoyed the headline.
 
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