Practical_Draconian: Stopped playing online collectible card games like Hearthstone because they all gravitate to aggro, the most boring playstyle there is.

Outlast and win on last card being better than his?
Turn the game into a bizarre, unpredictable clown fiesta on every turn that frustrates the simple minded?
Use (or counter) a build up into a one-turn combo kill?
Take a gamble on crazy mechanics and poison his deck with damaging or worthless cards, steal his deck or burn his cards before played?

Nope, just focus on winning by piling the table with cheap shiat as fast as you can. Repeatedly. And with free refills on garbage too.

likefunbutnot: Anyway, the thing that sucks here (per my roommate, who plays Marvel Snap) is that there are cheaty bots that play at higher levels than noob. I'm not sure if there's anything in the game's TOS about always playing human opponents or if the high level bots are someone's AI research, but the bots win a lot more than they lose and I can see how that would be a drag for people who actually put a lot of thought into their play.

olorin604: It might just be where I am in the tiers, but it seems lots of games come down to a turn 6 crapshoot where either player can win and it entirely depends on what is played where.

This sound obvious, but you are trying to blindly guess what your opponent is going to do in order to counter it and there are multiple valid choices for your opponent l, each of which requires you to act differently, and there is no real information about how they are going to play so you are just guessing.


Look it made sense in my head, ok.

Maneck: likefunbutnot:
Anyway, the thing that sucks here (per my roommate, who plays Marvel Snap) is that there are cheaty bots that play at higher levels than noob. I'm not sure if there's anything in the game's TOS about always playing human opponents or if the high level bots are someone's AI research, but the bots win a lot more than they lose and I can see how that would be a drag for people who actually put a lot of thought into their play.

There are many different bots in Marvel Snap. There's the bots new players play against which present themselves as other players, but are not. They're easy to beat, intentionally so.

There's the Agatha and Ego bots, which take control for the player. Agatha tries to stay in a "win" condition at all times (i.e. stay in position so that if the game suddenly ended, they would win). She also ignores location effects which makes some location set ups basically an auto lose. Ego to me seems almost random, with a preference for playing the most recently drawn card - but I haven't seen him enough times to be sure he's not just the same bot as Agatha.

Then there's the high level bots that impersonate players. These get trotted out when the game is having trouble match making. The high level bots are not smarter than their beginner compatriots. They're hard because they've given access to two cheats: they see the cards played against them before they're played (Daredevil, but all rounds), and they know the result of "random" outcomes before they play. This amounts to a hard counter for some decks, but can be exploited as well. Like, play a mantis and they'll never drop cards at that location that round. Play Professor X, and they'll dump everything they can into that lane that round.