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(Al Jazeera)   Greece and Bulgaria discuss oil pipeline bypassing Bosphorus Strait, secure need for blackjack and hookers   (aljazeera.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Black Sea, Turkey, Russia, Petroleum, Natural gas, long-defunct oil pipeline project, Russian oil, gas pipelines  
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459 clicks; posted to Business » on 05 Dec 2022 at 7:30 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-05 8:27:08 PM  
Not the pipeline route, but Google maps driving.

Shows how it bypasses the Bosphorus Strait with relative ease.
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2022-12-05 8:39:27 PM  
This is pointless. Oil is going into a long decline. No need to run pipe to avoid Turkey. Just buy it elsewhere.
 
2022-12-05 11:05:25 PM  
It's nobody's business but the Turks
 
2022-12-06 12:27:00 AM  

madgonad: This is pointless. Oil is going into a long decline. No need to run pipe to avoid Turkey. Just buy it elsewhere.


It is amazing isn't it? People set up these projects to escape some risky situation, but often the projects attract risk and instability, so you wind up having to write them off and go to plan c or back to plan a.

Japan sets up the Sakhallin natural gas and oil projects to escape Mid East instability, and now Russia goes all whacko.

Japan sets up a huge nuclear industry to avoid fossil fuel politics and to please environmentalists (pre 1975, nuclear power was green power). After getting stabbed in the back by international green pressure groups, Japan turned back to fossil fuels from supposedly risk free trade partners.

Of course the answer is batteries! And renewables! That will eliminate risk, right? Just buy all your gear from China and set it up and you are done! Easy peasy! Just trust Elon!

Good luck to Greece and Bulgaria, but if your selling point is providing "a stable alternative," then you might wind up redundant, or a target of other players.
 
2022-12-06 3:51:16 AM  

2fardownthread: madgonad: This is pointless. Oil is going into a long decline. No need to run pipe to avoid Turkey. Just buy it elsewhere.

It is amazing isn't it? People set up these projects to escape some risky situation, but often the projects attract risk and instability, so you wind up having to write them off and go to plan c or back to plan a.

Japan sets up the Sakhallin natural gas and oil projects to escape Mid East instability, and now Russia goes all whacko.

Japan sets up a huge nuclear industry to avoid fossil fuel politics and to please environmentalists (pre 1975, nuclear power was green power). After getting stabbed in the back by international green pressure groups, Japan turned back to fossil fuels from supposedly risk free trade partners.

Of course the answer is batteries! And renewables! That will eliminate risk, right? Just buy all your gear from China and set it up and you are done! Easy peasy! Just trust Elon!

Good luck to Greece and Bulgaria, but if your selling point is providing "a stable alternative," then you might wind up redundant, or a target of other players.


Japan "turned their back" on nuclear (not really as the LDP has consistently promised to restart nuclear plants) not because of international pressure but because of experiencing one of only two major civilian nuclear incidents. Don't pretend the Fukushima incident didn't happen.
 
2022-12-06 5:38:15 AM  

i_dig_chicks: It's nobody's business but the Turks


Well, not the Turks apparently, since that's who they're bypassing.

The  Bulgarians, and Greeks, hate the Turks, so they have that in common. I imagine they probably have weekly meetings on that single subject.
 
2022-12-06 9:41:24 AM  

adamatari: 2fardownthread: madgonad: This is pointless. Oil is going into a long decline. No need to run pipe to avoid Turkey. Just buy it elsewhere.

It is amazing isn't it? People set up these projects to escape some risky situation, but often the projects attract risk and instability, so you wind up having to write them off and go to plan c or back to plan a.

Japan sets up the Sakhallin natural gas and oil projects to escape Mid East instability, and now Russia goes all whacko.

Japan sets up a huge nuclear industry to avoid fossil fuel politics and to please environmentalists (pre 1975, nuclear power was green power). After getting stabbed in the back by international green pressure groups, Japan turned back to fossil fuels from supposedly risk free trade partners.

Of course the answer is batteries! And renewables! That will eliminate risk, right? Just buy all your gear from China and set it up and you are done! Easy peasy! Just trust Elon!

Good luck to Greece and Bulgaria, but if your selling point is providing "a stable alternative," then you might wind up redundant, or a target of other players.

Japan "turned their back" on nuclear (not really as the LDP has consistently promised to restart nuclear plants) not because of international pressure but because of experiencing one of only two major civilian nuclear incidents. Don't pretend the Fukushima incident didn't happen.


Nuke bros love to love the goalposts on nuclear failures. Since the reactor itself didn't melt down, it wasn't a nuclear disaster. End of discussion.
 
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