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(The Register)   Workers are now simply ignoring executive mandates to return to the office: "What's the point of me being in my office, just because they want to see me in the office?"   (theregister.com) divider line
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2022-12-05 9:07:34 AM  
My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.
 
2022-12-05 9:15:13 AM  

EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.


It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.
 
2022-12-05 10:00:38 AM  
I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.
 
2022-12-05 10:28:06 AM  
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2022-12-05 10:32:12 AM  
"Yeah, no one's really monitoring it anyway," my boss said.

Going into the office just because it's Tuesday doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
 
2022-12-05 10:44:49 AM  

bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.


And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.
 
2022-12-05 10:48:03 AM  

desertfool: And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.


When I raised that exact issue with the CEO at my new job, he said that's healthy to be exposed to a little disease once in a while. He said it strengthens the immune system.

Um.

(I had said that no one should come to the office if they are sick until they are 100% free of symptoms.)
 
2022-12-05 10:48:05 AM  

bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.


I had to fight this at my last job. It took ages for my boss to accept I wasn't a team player and all collaboration did was adversely affect my work.
 
2022-12-05 10:52:23 AM  

desertfool: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.


I work from home 2 days a week, and it's great. I don't mind going into the office 3 days a week, either. I'm in IT; we have our own space, there are only about 7 of us in that space at a time, and we all get along. Though not going in *ever* would be preferable.

But...my company is building a new office. We've been told that in the new office, IT will no longer have it's own space. Instead we will share an "open office" plan with - get this - the accounting and HR departments.

So, the 3 departments that have to be *very careful* about handling information securely, and *also* the three departments that spend the most time dealing with and talking to employees, are now going to be in one big room. It's going to be a nightmare.
 
2022-12-05 10:54:08 AM  
I agreed to work in the office two days a week, three from home. Still haven't gone in for more than an hour or two. Probably keep doing this until someone says something. Of course, some folks voluntarily go in five days a week, others have bargained for full time WFH, it's a real hodge podge where I'm at.

My boss had Covid last week (and stayed home), so I'm really not in any hurry.
 
2022-12-05 10:55:29 AM  
Your boss wants you back at the office so they can foist all of their work onto you.
 
2022-12-05 11:00:34 AM  

bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.


I was at a company like this. They moved locations and the new office was wide open, people staring at one another across open desks. I helped them move that day and left the company. Zero interest in that type of office environment.
 
2022-12-05 11:02:24 AM  

Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.


Yeah, same here, live alone without friends that i routinely see.  The social interaction, turned out for me, kind of important in keeping me feeling like a normal human being.  we're going to 1 day in the officer per week starting in january, and i'm fine with that.  It's almost like the last couple years i've lost some of the ability to articulate things that i used to easily be able to do.
 
2022-12-05 11:05:24 AM  
Step 1 get the people out of the office.

Step 2 Replace them with machines and computer programs.

Where they going to go to complain they lost their job? No more office.
 
2022-12-05 11:15:53 AM  

realmolo: desertfool: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.

I work from home 2 days a week, and it's great. I don't mind going into the office 3 days a week, either. I'm in IT; we have our own space, there are only about 7 of us in that space at a time, and we all get along. Though not going in *ever* would be preferable.

But...my company is building a new office. We've been told that in the new office, IT will no longer have it's own space. Instead we will share an "open office" plan with - get this - the accounting and HR departments.

So, the 3 departments that have to be *very careful* about handling information securely, and *also* the three departments that spend the most time dealing with and talking to employees, are now going to be in one big room. It's going to be a nightmare.


Yeesh. Better have a talk with HR and make a plan on co-presenting that this violates company policy, HIPPA, GLBA, numerous confidentiality clauses, and anything else you can think of. Assuming your HR is reasonable and will work together to fix both, rather than just throw you under the bus to get their own space.
 
2022-12-05 11:19:13 AM  
I haven't seen any of my coworkers in person since 2019.
 
2022-12-05 11:21:52 AM  

Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.


Do what I did. Take up tabletop games as a hobby*. A couple hours here and there at a game store gets plenty of IRL social interaction to maintain sanity. It's also pretty fun and can be relatively cheap if you stick to non-collectibles and avoid Games Workshop products.

*Or get back into tabletop games in my case.
 
2022-12-05 11:23:01 AM  

phedex: Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.

Yeah, same here, live alone without friends that i routinely see.  The social interaction, turned out for me, kind of important in keeping me feeling like a normal human being.  we're going to 1 day in the officer per week starting in january, and i'm fine with that.  It's almost like the last couple years i've lost some of the ability to articulate things that i used to easily be able to do.


Same here. I enjoy going to the office because I like my coworkers. We hug instead of shaking hands. Honestly, I go into the office just to read email and talk to people. I get more out of a 5 minute face to face interaction than any 1 hr long video conference meeting.

My social anxiety is off the charts now.

I don't go *anywhere* in my city anymore. I will shower and dress up to leave the house, but don't actually leave. Even getting in the car is nerve racking. Going to the office is almost like therapy.

But I don't want to *have* to go to the office.
 
2022-12-05 11:27:10 AM  

Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.


Getting employees to conflate work with a social event is one way the company gets you to put up with shiat you shouldn't. It's a job, not a social club. Separate them and find something to do outside of work. That will be a benefit to your well being.
 
2022-12-05 11:33:50 AM  

bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.


I've seen this on LinkedIn news article commentary and it ticks me off.

"<benefit> for me, not for thee"
 
2022-12-05 11:36:33 AM  
I have told my employer that if they want me in the office, it will cut my productivity in half.

Why?
Because I literally work at 3x average productivity in the first 3 hours I'm awake. Every I talk to is remote. 

I occasionally come into work - it's a total loss.
 
2022-12-05 11:39:30 AM  

Shelbyraed: I haven't seen any of my coworkers in person since 2019.


Lucky.
 
2022-12-05 11:40:56 AM  
Had a previous job that I got 2 days work from home, negotiated when they hired me.   A couple of years later with about a 1/2 dozen reorgs and some question on who my boss really was, I just stayed at home and worked fulltime from home.  If there was a meeting (team/ dept), i would go in without question.  I went in for a couple of other things when required. It took a couple of more years/ managers for them to figure out.  The bossman at the time was like "Tobcc, you need to come in all but those 2 days".    I did the same thing, Im NOT coming  back in.   There was a little back and forth, but I stuck to my guns.   I had the job about 7-8 years and only left when they went to outsource the dept.

Job I have now, was 2 days WFH prior to Covid, and fulltime since then.  We have no plan to come back, the office space we were in has been re-allocated.   If they told me to come in, I would nope right into a new job.
 
2022-12-05 11:42:28 AM  

bostonguy: desertfool: And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.

When I raised that exact issue with the CEO at my new job, he said that's healthy to be exposed to a little disease once in a while. He said it strengthens the immune system.

Um.

(I had said that no one should come to the office if they are sick until they are 100% free of symptoms.)


In Japan it was common to see people wearing masks before the pandemic, ill people wore masks in public.  In Japan it's considered bad form to expose other if you know you're not well.
 
2022-12-05 11:45:35 AM  

Shelbyraed: I haven't seen any of my coworkers in person since 2019.


I wish I had that. I'm 99% remote, but every so often they want me to go in for some inane company event, or to meet some other coworker for "team building" purposes.
 
2022-12-05 11:59:41 AM  

Walker: Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.


The problem is that they are stuck in long term leases with a penalty to break the lease. It may be cheaper to keep them and be mostly empty or mothballs some areas/floors so you at least save on electricity and can turn the heat down.

It's going to take a few more years before companies find the right sized space for having so many people at home.
 
2022-12-05 12:00:30 PM  

realmolo: But...my company is building a new office. We've been told that in the new office, IT will no longer have it's own space. Instead we will share an "open office" plan with - get this - the accounting and HR departments.


I can't think of anything that says "This company has its head up its collective ass" more clearly than building new office space at the tail end of a pandemic that resulted in more work-from-home than any other time in history, leaving vast swaths of commercial real estate empty and available.
 
2022-12-05 12:01:11 PM  
I started my current job in March 2020.  Two days in the office and then maximum telework kicked in.  I haven't been in the office since then.  They developed a very detailed plan for coming back to the office, with multiple phases and consideration of type of work performed as well as health concerns.  Except for the people who had to be physically on site to do their work, very few have returned except for more than a day or two a week.  Mental health cuts both ways, and the there are people who are better off being the office.  My work is heads down, programming, analysis, and lots of spreadsheets, perfect for remote work.  They don't even mention my team's possible return any more.  I do miss the interaction a bit, but I also save over $400 a month in gas and tolls, not counting drive time and the overhead of getting presentable for work each day.  Telework has been super for me and management has seen the light.
 
2022-12-05 12:07:37 PM  
We're on a 50-50 remote schedule now, but we have a new CEO incoming and he told us he "hates" remote work and 2023 we can expect to have to be back in five days a week.

He told us this during work hours from his car, as he was not in the office.
 
2022-12-05 12:09:19 PM  

Bullitt: "Yeah, no one's really monitoring it anyway," my boss said.

Going into the office just because it's Tuesday doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.


Particularly when the original proposal for hybrid home/office scheduling was to have reduced numbers of people in the office, to prevent spread of disease. Like only 30% of people would be there on any day, and you'd come in Monday and Thursday, Bob would come in Tuesday and Friday, Charlie had Wednesdays, etc.

But instead, these offices said "let's have everyone come in all together on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and crowd around and cough in each other's faces, and then maybe lick a few door knobs or toilet seats," and "gosh, how come 90% of our people are suddenly out sick?"
 
2022-12-05 12:12:20 PM  

trialpha: Shelbyraed: I haven't seen any of my coworkers in person since 2019.

I wish I had that. I'm 99% remote, but every so often they want me to go in for some inane company event, or to meet some other coworker for "team building" purposes.


My team is pretty scattered globally, but I did occasionally travel to visit clients or meet with other teams.  We are allowed to travel again but so far none of my customers have required it, which is great for me.
 
2022-12-05 12:16:22 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: We're on a 50-50 remote schedule now, but we have a new CEO incoming and he told us he "hates" remote work and 2023 we can expect to have to be back in five days a week.

He told us this during work hours from his car, as he was not in the office.


Isn't that f*cking RICH? The new rich guy at the top has an emotional attachment to knowing you're all in the office, so that's how it's going to be. It's always the people whose workdays consist of a lot of unstructured, unmonitored time to themselves who are the loudest proponents of everyone else being shackled to a desk in the office.
 
2022-12-05 12:21:42 PM  

Bullitt: "Yeah, no one's really monitoring it anyway," my boss said.

Going into the office just because it's Tuesday doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.


My software team comes in on Wednesdays just so we can all have a meeting, go out for lunch then go back home.
 
2022-12-05 12:22:49 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: phedex: Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.

Yeah, same here, live alone without friends that i routinely see.  The social interaction, turned out for me, kind of important in keeping me feeling like a normal human being.  we're going to 1 day in the officer per week starting in january, and i'm fine with that.  It's almost like the last couple years i've lost some of the ability to articulate things that i used to easily be able to do.

Same here. I enjoy going to the office because I like my coworkers. We hug instead of shaking hands. Honestly, I go into the office just to read email and talk to people. I get more out of a 5 minute face to face interaction than any 1 hr long video conference meeting.

My social anxiety is off the charts now.

I don't go *anywhere* in my city anymore. I will shower and dress up to leave the house, but don't actually leave. Even getting in the car is nerve racking. Going to the office is almost like therapy.

But I don't want to *have* to go to the office.


I'm glad you're slowly socializing again by visiting your office and seeing trusted coworkers, but it sounds like the severity of your anxiety warrants some actual therapy too. Those symptoms are well beyond post-pandemic public jitters. I am impressed that you shared your experience here and wish you luck.
 
2022-12-05 12:49:10 PM  

zeroflight222: realmolo: desertfool: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.

I work from home 2 days a week, and it's great. I don't mind going into the office 3 days a week, either. I'm in IT; we have our own space, there are only about 7 of us in that space at a time, and we all get along. Though not going in *ever* would be preferable.

But...my company is building a new office. We've been told that in the new office, IT will no longer have it's own space. Instead we will share an "open office" plan with - get this - the accounting and HR departments.

So, the 3 departments that have to be *very careful* about handling information securely, and *also* the three departments that spend the most time dealing with and talking to employees, are now going to be in one big room. It's going to be a nightmare.

Yeesh. Better have a talk with HR and make a plan on co-presenting that this violates company policy, HIPPA, GLBA, numerous confidentiality clauses, and anything else you can think of. Assuming your HR is reasonable and will work together to fix both, rather than just throw you under the bus to get their own space.


Complain to Human Resources (the right way)
Youtube EmTAEU6mR90
there are numerous clips covering the pitfalls of reaching out to hr. Reviewing them is a must
 
2022-12-05 12:53:07 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: phedex: Walker: I go into the office two days a week, but that's mainly for my own mental health, as I live alone and start to go crazy without any social interaction. Well more crazy than usual I mean. But then I found out if I go in more than two days a week that's also bad for my mental health. So two days is the magic number.  Of course if they told me I could work from home permanently I would pack up and move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. A bit pricey here in the DC area. Also I hate the cold.

My company has around 30 offices around the country and from what I hear nobody to almost nobody goes into them. Just a waste of rent/utilities/etc. Close them and let people work from home.

Yeah, same here, live alone without friends that i routinely see.  The social interaction, turned out for me, kind of important in keeping me feeling like a normal human being.  we're going to 1 day in the officer per week starting in january, and i'm fine with that.  It's almost like the last couple years i've lost some of the ability to articulate things that i used to easily be able to do.

Same here. I enjoy going to the office because I like my coworkers. We hug instead of shaking hands. Honestly, I go into the office just to read email and talk to people. I get more out of a 5 minute face to face interaction than any 1 hr long video conference meeting.

My social anxiety is off the charts now.

I don't go *anywhere* in my city anymore. I will shower and dress up to leave the house, but don't actually leave. Even getting in the car is nerve racking. Going to the office is almost like therapy.

But I don't want to *have* to go to the office.


Same here. I came out of isolation fearing just the thought of being in a group. I was lucky enough to land in a position where all my interactions are enriching as well as rewarding. The work is ok but I do look forward to seeing my coworkers.
 
2022-12-05 12:54:52 PM  
Every time they try to make people come back 100% they are met with a wave of resignations so they stopped doing that a while ago. I like having less people in the office it is way easier to fine a good parking spot. During the lockdown I took up 3 parking sports just because I could.
 
2022-12-05 12:56:19 PM  

realmolo: desertfool: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

And open plan offices really help control the spread of disease.

I work from home 2 days a week, and it's great. I don't mind going into the office 3 days a week, either. I'm in IT; we have our own space, there are only about 7 of us in that space at a time, and we all get along. Though not going in *ever* would be preferable.

But...my company is building a new office. We've been told that in the new office, IT will no longer have it's own space. Instead we will share an "open office" plan with - get this - the accounting and HR departments.

So, the 3 departments that have to be *very careful* about handling information securely, and *also* the three departments that spend the most time dealing with and talking to employees, are now going to be in one big room. It's going to be a nightmare.


seems like in this day and age it would put everyone at risk for when the co-worker decides to start blasting fools.

Oh you are in the same space as HR ? Enjoy your bullets
 
2022-12-05 12:58:28 PM  

groppet: Every time they try to make people come back 100% they are met with a wave of resignations so they stopped doing that a while ago. I like having less people in the office it is way easier to fine a good parking spot. During the lockdown I took up 3 parking sports just because I could.


Spots damn autocorrect!
 
2022-12-05 1:11:16 PM  

drewogatory: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

I had to fight this at my last job. It took ages for my boss to accept I wasn't a team player and all collaboration did was adversely affect my work.


You actually convinced them to give you a private office?
 
2022-12-05 1:17:47 PM  

bostonguy: drewogatory: bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.

I had to fight this at my last job. It took ages for my boss to accept I wasn't a team player and all collaboration did was adversely affect my work.

You actually convinced them to give you a private office?


Well, it wasn't an office when I started. I reclaimed the space.
 
2022-12-05 1:32:22 PM  
I am considering taking a new remote job while keeping my current one. My current job has me sitting in an office all day with about 1 hour's worth of work.

Not sure how I can hide that from my current job in regards to things like two insurances, benefits plans, etc.
 
2022-12-05 1:36:53 PM  

Hyjamon: I am considering taking a new remote job while keeping my current one. My current job has me sitting in an office all day with about 1 hour's worth of work.

Not sure how I can hide that from my current job in regards to things like two insurances, benefits plans, etc.


Ask the second job to pay you only in salary (with a nice jump to cover for the lack of benefits)?
 
2022-12-05 2:07:47 PM  
The last organization that I was with was ordered back to the all the offices over the protests of the local office managers. Most of us had shared office space. I don't mean that I sat looking at some other guy. No, some other guy sat in the same desk, using the same phone and computer when I was not there. Both of us spent the day on the phone or in computer consultations. In a handful of months, I met with a client in person about twice. The same was true of many other employees. Soon, a lot were mostly working remote again. I don't know whether they all had formal permission to do so or not. I doubt it.
 
2022-12-05 2:46:02 PM  

bostonguy: Hyjamon: I am considering taking a new remote job while keeping my current one. My current job has me sitting in an office all day with about 1 hour's worth of work.

Not sure how I can hide that from my current job in regards to things like two insurances, benefits plans, etc.

Ask the second job to pay you only in salary (with a nice jump to cover for the lack of benefits)?


interesting.. okay you could say you're on your spouses benefits or something.

Not sure how this would work for retirement fund.  i would say you'd have a way around that too, but often times business has a default small amount they put into a fund for you wether you contribute or not.  And i have a feeling if you have, say two 401ks going at once there might be things that would come up in the background checking.

However, chances are you're putting your career in jeopardy if you are working for two places at the same time, and eventually you will get caught and let go. Things like conflict of interest, etc all play into your employers favor; You might get away with it for a few months, but it will come out.
 
2022-12-05 2:49:28 PM  

phedex: However, chances are you're putting your career in jeopardy if you are working for two places at the same time, and eventually you will get caught and let go. Things like conflict of interest, etc all play into your employers favor; You might get away with it for a few months, but it will come out.


This, too. If you have two jobs, do the other at night or other times when you're not "on the clock" at your first job. And especially when you're not using any equipment owned by the first job to do the second job.
 
2022-12-05 3:47:44 PM  

bostonguy: phedex: However, chances are you're putting your career in jeopardy if you are working for two places at the same time, and eventually you will get caught and let go. Things like conflict of interest, etc all play into your employers favor; You might get away with it for a few months, but it will come out.

This, too. If you have two jobs, do the other at night or other times when you're not "on the clock" at your first job. And especially when you're not using any equipment owned by the first job to do the second job.


yea, this is more just me being risk-averse at the moment.

I really don't like my current job. It is stable yet I will slowly get poorer for the rest of my career (20+ years) since raises and promotions don't exist here.

Don't want to get a new job just to be let go immediately due to "recession". Don't have much savings to cost on to land another gig if that happens. I cannot get my spouse to get a job to help offset the situation either.

I do have an interview on Friday. we'll see.
 
2022-12-05 3:53:40 PM  
March 9, 2020 was the last time I went in.

Never going back
 
2022-12-05 3:59:45 PM  

bostonguy: EvilEgg: My boss told everyone to come back to the office.  Then we had a company-wide townhall every single member of management was at home, including him.  So, tell me again how it improves productivity.

It's almost like the time that the cofounders of a company told us that an open plan office was better for everyone because it improves collaboration.

And then only the two cofounders got a private office.


When we moved to open, flexible workspaces, my manager initially boasted that she too, would go along with it like everyone else. Took two weeks before she claimed one of the meeting rooms as her private office.
 
2022-12-05 4:24:45 PM  
I've been officially back on office since November 2021. I think. Sometime around then. I never actually go to the office.

Well, I did go in the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Problems with my home internet and needed to submit my year end self review by the end of that week.

I think I saw 2 other people in the building with me. Not sure why they're still paying rent on the place.
 
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