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(Slate)   "My son decided to protest a terrible school tradition. But, he did it completely wrong and it backfired. What do?"   (slate.com) divider line
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1133 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 04 Dec 2022 at 2:16 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-04 9:49:35 AM  
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2022-12-04 10:12:00 AM  
It's important to learn that when you choose when and how to rage against the machine, you have to take into account how the machine will attempt to destroy you for it.
 
2022-12-04 10:19:23 AM  
Give the kid a hug and carefully guide then through what would have been better options/actions to attempt the same goal.

Other words, parent.
 
2022-12-04 10:34:25 AM  
On the one hand, you have raised a son who had the courage of his convictions to see the wrong in the school action, and the will to take steps to change them.  Knowing that there would be punishment meted out, and he still went through with it.

On the other hand blackface.

On the gripping hand, it worked and the tradition has been sent to the cornfield where it belongs.


Lift any punishment you have applied, tell him you will help do the next protest "better", and give a hearty middle finger to anyone in town who gives him a bad time for ruining their fun.
 
2022-12-04 10:38:15 AM  
Ok wait, now that I've read the article - your son was just trying to lift that final veil. Yeah - it was SUPER F*CKING OFFENSIVE WHAT HE DID - but it was also a lot more honest than what the senior class continues to do.

Call national news outlets and national news papers. With your son, make MORE noise, not less.

And seriously - take that little sh*t aside and make sure he understands what good trouble is.
 
2022-12-04 10:40:36 AM  

educated: Ok wait, now that I've read the article - your son was just trying to lift that final veil. Yeah - it was SUPER F*CKING OFFENSIVE WHAT HE DID - but it was also a lot more honest than what the senior class continues to do.

Call national news outlets and national news papers. With your son, make MORE noise, not less.

And seriously - take that little sh*t aside and make sure he understands what good trouble is.


It helps being educated?
 
2022-12-04 10:43:06 AM  

BizarreMan: educated: Ok wait, now that I've read the article - your son was just trying to lift that final veil. Yeah - it was SUPER F*CKING OFFENSIVE WHAT HE DID - but it was also a lot more honest than what the senior class continues to do.

Call national news outlets and national news papers. With your son, make MORE noise, not less.

And seriously - take that little sh*t aside and make sure he understands what good trouble is.

It helps being educated?


Always - but surprisingly, my initial gut reaction still stands.
 
2022-12-04 10:44:51 AM  

educated: BizarreMan: educated: Ok wait, now that I've read the article - your son was just trying to lift that final veil. Yeah - it was SUPER F*CKING OFFENSIVE WHAT HE DID - but it was also a lot more honest than what the senior class continues to do.

Call national news outlets and national news papers. With your son, make MORE noise, not less.

And seriously - take that little sh*t aside and make sure he understands what good trouble is.

It helps being educated?

Always - but surprisingly, my initial gut reaction still stands.


For once, the headline and tfa actually aligned.
 
2022-12-04 11:18:12 AM  
This is one of the very, VERY few times where blackface is appropriate.

He didn't do it to make fun of Black people, he did it to tell the people holding the mock slave auction that THEY were making fun of Black people.
 
2022-12-04 11:20:16 AM  
Yeesh. In 2022, a public school using the word "slave" outside of a history lesson on the evils of slavery is idiotic. Call it "Hire-a-Senior Day" or something equally harmless and few people would have a problem with it.

That said, when my kid was protesting something to do with the dress code by deliberately attempting to get dress coded, I told her, "I support you. However, I need you to know that if you do this, you are responsible for accepting and dealing with any consequences that may result from your actions. I will not try to argue you out of whatever those consequences may be, and I'm not leaving work to come pick you up. If you go through with this, you own it."
 
2022-12-04 11:41:35 AM  
Civil Rights protestors have been murdered or injured, their houses burnt down, fired from their jobs, but their protests worked at some level.
I think the son did fine. He had to put on blackface when, "the nice way didn't work." Newton's Third Law says there is an equal and opposite reaction. For his act, he was suspended from school and won't walk at graduation. But the school will no longer hold the event (I don't trust them because it's a rural white area, and they did finish the event).
When you're protesting and fighting for rights, you often have to give up a lot to make great strides going forward.
 
2022-12-04 12:34:41 PM  
Anyone who had their "fun ruined" deserved it.
 
2022-12-04 2:07:16 PM  
It sounds like a bachelor auction or the like.  If so, I don't see much of a problem with it other than the name.  And that it took this kid's actions to get them to reconsider it.
 
2022-12-04 2:15:31 PM  
Blackface is bad but I can't think of any more way to hold up a mirror and say No that would have gotten the same response.

Protest isn't supposed to be quiet and in a corner. He didn't hurt anyone, he didn't hold anyone hostage, he just made people really uncomfortable. Good. Wear those consequences like a merit badge.
 
2022-12-04 2:30:06 PM  

Kat09tails: Blackface is bad but I can't think of any more way to hold up a mirror and say No that would have gotten the same response.

Protest isn't supposed to be quiet and in a corner. He didn't hurt anyone, he didn't hold anyone hostage, he just made people really uncomfortable. Good. Wear those consequences like a merit badge.


Showing up in tighty whites and shackles might have *almost* worked.  But given that this school was doing this in 2022, I'm guessing they needed the bluntest of clue-by-fours.
 
2022-12-04 3:31:21 PM  
GOOD FOR HIM!!!!
You raised a good man, now let him know and DON'T punish him, he did exactly what was needed to accomplish what was needed to be done.
Sometimes shock value is the only way to get their attention.
 
2022-12-04 3:43:30 PM  

skybird659: GOOD FOR HIM!!!!
You raised a good man, now let him know and DON'T punish him, he did exactly what was needed to accomplish what was needed to be done.
Sometimes shock value is the only way to get their attention.


What if blackface came about for exactly the same reason -- a shocking substitution for some worse habit that society needed to break?
 
2022-12-04 3:54:28 PM  

educated: Ok wait, now that I've read the article - your son was just trying to lift that final veil. Yeah - it was SUPER F*CKING OFFENSIVE WHAT HE DID - but it was also a lot more honest than what the senior class continues to do.

Call national news outlets and national news papers. With your son, make MORE noise, not less.

And seriously - take that little sh*t aside and make sure he understands what good trouble is.


This is the internet. Unless the family gets...uh...Lucky? Er..well, 2 scenarios.

Faux Newz pick it up, and take a giant shiat all over it. Death threats by people with guns and bombs. And since the idiot brigade got a hold of it first, maybe anyone with 2 braincells to rub together might take pitty on you.

Or

Then internet sees it, has the attention span of a fruit fly, see the blackface, and stop reading anything beyond the headline, and now you are getting doxxed and are now internet pariah. Also. Getting death threats and losing your job.

I would NOT bring attention to this. Your kid did fark up. Hope no one finds out.
 
2022-12-04 4:02:47 PM  
My family is receiving a lot of anger right now, unfortunately more because my son "ruined Senior Slave," than because he showed up in blackface.

Incredible.

I am a little torn here myself. I don't know that there's ever a good reason for a white person to don Blackface, but if there was one, this might be it.

Yeah I mean, he won and slave auction day is finished now. He embarrassed everyone to the point where he made the event unsustainable. Give him a stern one of these:

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2022-12-04 4:10:32 PM  
I'd say you did good, screw the uptight bastards, of course I'm an old punk rocker who would be fairly proud of the kid.
 
2022-12-04 4:49:54 PM  

ryant123: > My family is receiving a lot of anger right now, unfortunately more because my son "ruined Senior Slave," than because he showed up in blackface.

Incredible.

> I am a little torn here myself. I don't know that there's ever a good reason for a white person to don Blackface, but if there was one, this might be it.

Yeah I mean, he won and slave auction day is finished now. He embarrassed everyone to the point where he made the event unsustainable. Give him a stern one of these:

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It's not cool to show up in Nazi uniform and goosestep around.  It's not cool to perform in blackface as if it's Al Jolson era. He pushed it over the top to show how offensive the concept is.
 
2022-12-04 5:35:08 PM  
Something tells me this school will quietly bring this tradition back in a few years.
 
2022-12-04 5:42:33 PM  
The history of student 'slave auctions' is not racial southern US slavery. It became ubiquitous as a fund-raiser for Greek fraternal organizations (Frats). Anyone captured in battle/conquered in foreign wars could be slaves in ancient Greece.

/I'm sure KA Order did inject a racial component to it
 
2022-12-04 6:08:55 PM  

King Something: This is one of the very, VERY few times where blackface is appropriate.

He didn't do it to make fun of Black people, he did it to tell the people holding the mock slave auction that THEY were making fun of Black people.


The only event that I have ever been able to say "This is a good use of black face", is Black Like Me by John Howard Griffi.
 
2022-12-04 6:13:56 PM  
He did blackface, didn't he...

*clicks*

Yep.
 
2022-12-04 7:26:09 PM  
I don't think there is much you are going to teach your kid out of this, letter writer. Because no matter what you say, the protest WORKED. And the kid may be in SOME trouble, but not anything he can't live with.
So now the problem is he now knows that he has a superhero like power to be right. This is like winning an Xbox the first time you play a claw game, it will take a while for the kid to ever believe they might ever be doing something inappropriate.
 
2022-12-04 7:28:15 PM  

Kat09tails: Blackface is bad but I can't think of any more way to hold up a mirror and say No that would have gotten the same response.

Protest isn't supposed to be quiet and in a corner. He didn't hurt anyone, he didn't hold anyone hostage, he just made people really uncomfortable. Good. Wear those consequences like a merit badge.


And I will say, he did awesome, my prior concerns duly noted. This is certainly an appropriate bomb to toss.
 
2022-12-04 11:08:19 PM  
I was a freshman when the school I went to ended "initiation" for us freshmen.  Nobody was physically hurt, but it was supposed to be a week and they put a halt to it on Tuesday morning.

I think maybe a few seniors had gone too far. So I never got to haze any freshmen.  I really wasn't interested in freshmen by the time I was a senior. It's not a tradition anyone should miss.
 
2022-12-05 1:32:07 AM  
TFA: "there's ever a good reason for a white person to don Blackface"

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2022-12-05 2:26:14 AM  
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2022-12-05 11:55:33 AM  
There's no acceptable reason to show up to any event in Blackface.  Your son's an a-hole and that's your fault given that you raised him.
 
2022-12-05 1:33:03 PM  

BizarreMan: On the one hand, you have raised a son who had the courage of his convictions to see the wrong in the school action, and the will to take steps to change them.  Knowing that there would be punishment meted out, and he still went through with it.

On the other hand blackface.

On the gripping hand, it worked and the tradition has been sent to the cornfield where it belongs.


Lift any punishment you have applied, tell him you will help do the next protest "better", and give a hearty middle finger to anyone in town who gives him a bad time for ruining their fun.


Props for the Pournelle/Niven reference.
 
2022-12-05 5:26:50 PM  
Racists are so easily triggered.
 
2022-12-05 6:02:59 PM  
Quit worrying and be proud of the kid you raised.
 
2022-12-05 8:59:40 PM  
I think the fact it was successful should not excuse it being wrong, because the kid could have done something else to protest the use of the word. It just wouldn't have been as easy.  Maybe he could have put an editorial in the school paper or web site, and forwarded it to the school board and local media. Or just addressed the school board at a regular meeting. I don't think blackface was the only option here. I would sit my kid down and discuss when ends justify means and how to be more creative and seek advice next time before jumping into actions with consequences. Approve the sentiment, disapprove of the rashness.
 
2022-12-05 11:29:23 PM  

Any Pie Left: I think the fact it was successful should not excuse it being wrong, because the kid could have done something else to protest the use of the word. It just wouldn't have been as easy.  Maybe he could have put an editorial in the school paper or web site, and forwarded it to the school board and local media. Or just addressed the school board at a regular meeting. I don't think blackface was the only option here. I would sit my kid down and discuss when ends justify means and how to be more creative and seek advice next time before jumping into actions with consequences. Approve the sentiment, disapprove of the rashness.


We don't know what other forms of protest he attempted prior to this particular action.  It's possible that he tried other methods and they failed, so he took the step which many people consider too far.

Statements like this remind me of how many people took offense at Kaepernick kneeling for the national anthem.  We understand why he's protesting, but can't he do it in some way that doesn't get in our faces?  Some other way that doesn't make us feel bad?
 
2022-12-06 12:21:30 AM  

Any Pie Left: . Maybe he could have put an editorial in the school paper or web site, and forwarded it to the school board and local media. Or just addressed the school board at a regular meeting.


His parents already tried those. That didn't work. Yes, there was probably another way besides blackface to get the kind of in-your-face shock value that finally ended the senior slave auction. But angry op-eds and a speech at the board meeting did nothing.
I'm sure that in the future, they will cringe at their use of blackface. But asking nicely did nothing.
 
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