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(Phys Org2)   Democrats: "We mustn't fight each other. Surely we should be united against the common enemy." Republicans: "THE JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT?"   (phys.org) divider line
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2022-12-03 3:49:55 PM  
Splitters!
 
2022-12-03 6:55:01 PM  
Hell, I'd give the space aliens Google maps to help aim their death rays at the RNC and other repositories of Republican filth.
 
2022-12-03 7:25:05 PM  
What ever happened to the Popular Front?

That's him over there.

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SPLITTER!
 
2022-12-03 7:27:21 PM  
Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.
 
2022-12-03 8:06:37 PM  
Well when one half doesn't even *believe* that something demonstrably-true is *occurring*...

*cough*climate emergency
 
2022-12-03 10:32:41 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


USSR: Godless communists = bad
Russia: Christian fascists = good

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2022-12-03 11:34:37 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


Let's not forget about all the brown people outside our country, too.
 
2022-12-04 12:53:14 AM  
The peoples front of Judea
 
2022-12-04 12:54:31 AM  
It could literally be Ebola and Republicans would try to make it a culture war thing, or become pro ebola.
 
2022-12-04 12:54:46 AM  
The common enemy is the far right GOP.
 
2022-12-04 12:55:38 AM  

monsatano: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

USSR: Godless communists = bad
Russia: Christian fascists = good

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I love how the "godless russian commies" was the cultural identity that stuck in the USA.  Meanwhile in actual russia, their orthodox church is blaring the propoganda that God is on their side, fighting holy wars, etc, basically all the crap our current Fox News Christians are starting to use to justify hate.
 
2022-12-04 12:55:40 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


Nah, the GOP has always been the party whose main purpose is to get poor people fighting with each other so they don't notice the rich robbing the shiat out of them.
 
2022-12-04 12:55:51 AM  
All we gotta do is reach across the aisle and find some middle ground in the spirit of bipartisanship guys.
 
2022-12-04 12:56:24 AM  
it mattered little: Against a common enemy, American civilians were willing to sacrifice on behalf of American interests.


Your common enemy today is rising health care costs, yet you continue to consume processed foods and added sugar at break-neck pace.

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Waaa my starbies 😭
 
2022-12-04 12:56:32 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.
 
2022-12-04 1:00:58 AM  

Hell Poodle: It could literally be Ebola and Republicans would try to make it a culture war thing, or become pro ebola.


Ummm, this literally just happened, it's called COVID-19.
You should check it out.
 
2022-12-04 1:02:13 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


I take it you were born in 1992 or later and/or never set foot inside the Us and/or studious avoid any American history whatsoever.  Because the Republicans pretty much accused every person in America to the left of Bull Conner of being anti-American and deserving of extrajudicial execution (and for many people, they did just that).  The fall of the Soviet Union didn't change anything except to change nothing
 
2022-12-04 1:03:38 AM  

Weatherkiss: All we gotta do is reach across the aisle and find some middle ground in the spirit of bipartisanship guys.


someone built a fence.  with barbed wire.  and land mines.
 
2022-12-04 1:04:00 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.


What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

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2022-12-04 1:07:47 AM  
As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis

/not a Nazi
 
2022-12-04 1:08:02 AM  
Republicans sure seemed to come together with Democrats to kill the rail union.
Maybe the bipartisanship was the hatred of workers that they learned along the way.
 
2022-12-04 1:12:52 AM  
All the more reason to forcibly deport all the Reich-wing farkwads to Russia in exchange for their sane people, especially of the LGBT community.
 
2022-12-04 1:13:46 AM  
The series of experiments found that exposing partisans to information about a common enemy instilled in Republicans a deeper distrust of Democrats than they started out with. The same was not true of Democrats in the study.

No shiat Sherlock. I wonder what Democrats they are referring to.
 
2022-12-04 1:17:21 AM  

Hell Poodle: It could literally be Ebola and Republicans would try to make it a culture war thing, or become pro ebola.


...uhm, COVID? This scenario has already happened...
 
2022-12-04 1:20:46 AM  
Ozymandias needs to come up with a new plan.
 
2022-12-04 1:29:01 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


Then Barack Obama became President, and by doing so proved that even a poor black boy born to a single mother can work hard, become extremely successful & even be President.

And GQPers have never so viciously hated anyone in living memory as they hated him for that.
 
2022-12-04 1:31:34 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


A big part of their recent failures is that modern kids aren't afraid of the word "socialism." And why should they be? The Scandinavian countries, with their high standards of living and personal happiness, are what the current generation thinks of when they hear "socialism."
 
2022-12-04 1:35:13 AM  
The common enemy is fascists.

A third of Americans are fascists, though.

We could defeat them, if we could unite the other two thirds.
 
2022-12-04 1:36:45 AM  

austerity101: The common enemy is fascists.

A third of Americans are fascists, though.

We could defeat them, if we could unite the other two thirds.


One of the thirds wants to just stand by and watch as the fascists decimate the other third.
 
2022-12-04 1:39:07 AM  

CCNP: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.

What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

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"What was I supposed to do, vote for that dorky guy in a tank?"
 
2022-12-04 1:40:05 AM  
I'm annoyed with the "polarized Americans" bit. Seems "BSAB so fark it".
Americans already had demonstrably-obvious common enemies: other countries influencing our elections.
But half of America already fell for it, and EMBRACED it. And they say the other side tortures kids to extract brain juices in the pedophile pizza dungeons.

There's no "finding common ground" with that.
 
2022-12-04 1:41:19 AM  

CCNP: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.

What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

[270towin.com image 825x625]


Well, yeah.

It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.

The Democrats still have a hard time with accepting that winning a Presidential election is almost entirely about personal charisma. Bill Clinton and Obama had it. Even Carter had it. But the other Democratic candidates in my lifetime haven't.

I still think the Democrats should just draft popular liberal Hollywood actors and run them. I mean, fark it. They'll win way more elections that way.
 
2022-12-04 1:46:05 AM  
Before they are Republicans,before they are conservatives,  before they are Christians, before they are Americans, they are first and foremost authoritarians. When you understand that point, their behavior makes much more sense. For further reading, check out the Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer. He does an excellent job of describing the authoritarian personality type and behavior.
Thanks to the Farker on this site that suggested it.
 
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2022-12-04 1:46:26 AM  

realmolo: It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.


Was he the one with the tank?
 
2022-12-04 1:48:08 AM  

Azz: realmolo: It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.

Was he the one with the tank?


That was Dukakis.
 
2022-12-04 1:48:53 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.


Indeed. I think I've mentioned this piece a few times before, but it's still relevant:

There has always been tension between the Republicans' constituent wings. What long masked it was the Cold War. The Reaganite party was never a two-part but always a three-part coalition, of social conservatives, economic conservatives, and foreign-policy hawks. The hawks' group was minuscule, but it happened that their passion (anti-communism) was shared by Christians and capitalists alike. This was a passion that Democrats -- with a few notable exceptions, including Senator Scoop Jackson, of Washington -- were renouncing by the mid-1970s.

Foreign-policy hawkishness became a permanent electoral advantage for the Republicans, but just as important, it became the party's internal glue. When the Cold War ended, the coalition lost its last point of common ground. As one Republican consultant says, "In 1992 we go to Houston, and Jack Kemp and Pat Buchanan look up at one another and say, 'What the hell are you doing in my party?'"

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/06/the-southern-captivity-of-the-gop/377123/
 
2022-12-04 1:50:40 AM  
Republicans: "Democrats are drinkers of baby blood wearing realistic-looking skin suits!"

Democrats: "That's not factually accurate, and we'll gladly submit ourselves to any type of humiliating public medical examination at a time and place of our Republican colleagues' choosing!"
 
2022-12-04 1:52:26 AM  

Fooshards: monsatano: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

USSR: Godless communists = bad
Russia: Christian fascists = good

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I love how the "godless russian commies" was the cultural identity that stuck in the USA.  Meanwhile in actual russia, their orthodox church is blaring the propoganda that God is on their side, fighting holy wars, etc, basically all the crap our current Fox News Christians are starting to use to justify hate.


Weren't the oligarchs greedy crooks running things the whole time? The kleptocracy is just more overt now.
 
2022-12-04 1:57:55 AM  
WWII did have some "unite against a common enemy", but it also had a giant mixing pot going on among those drafted into the services. It didn't mean people liked each other, but they learned to mostly get along, and they learned that people from outside their limited experience weren't all bad.

Many people no longer mix. The less they mix, the more likely they are to become entrenched in their polarization. That polarization is usually full of misconceptions. We need people mixing.

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2022-12-04 1:59:13 AM  

GypsyJoker: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

A big part of their recent failures is that modern kids aren't afraid of the word "socialism." And why should they be? The Scandinavian countries, with their high standards of living and personal happiness, are what the current generation thinks of when they hear "socialism."


And frankly all we can see from capitalism is misery for ourselves and our families. Coupled with insane levels of income disparity and injustice based on the ability of the rich and corporations to pay off the justice system/ government.
 
2022-12-04 2:01:16 AM  

phalamir: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

I take it you were born in 1992 or later and/or never set foot inside the Us and/or studious avoid any American history whatsoever.  Because the Republicans pretty much accused every person in America to the left of Bull Conner of being anti-American and deserving of extrajudicial execution (and for many people, they did just that).  The fall of the Soviet Union didn't change anything except to change nothing


Old school:

But Mr. Buckley's magazine stood firm. A book review from the July 13th issue of the same year - 1957 - by Richard Weaver was called, "Integration is Communization." Mr. Weaver found Carl Rowan's Go South to Sorrow "a sorry specimen of Negro intellectual leadership," and went on to express deep suspicion about the whole integrationist enterprise:

'Integration' and 'Communization' are, after all, pretty closely synonymous. In light of what is happening today, the first may be little more than a euphemism for the second. It does not take many steps to get from the 'integrating' of facilities to the 'communizing' of facilities, if the impulse is there.

He concluded with a restatement of the principles of voluntary association. "In a free society, associations for educational, cultural, social, and business purposes have a right to protect their integrity against political fanaticism. The alternative to this is the destruction of free society and the replacement of its functions by government, which is the Marxist dream."

/Ideas have consequences!
 
2022-12-04 2:05:56 AM  

realmolo: CCNP: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.

What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

[270towin.com image 825x625]

Well, yeah.

It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.

The Democrats still have a hard time with accepting that winning a Presidential election is almost entirely about personal charisma. Bill Clinton and Obama had it. Even Carter had it. But the other Democratic candidates in my lifetime haven't.

I still think the Democrats should just draft popular liberal Hollywood actors and run them. I mean, fark it. They'll win way more elections that way.


Are you asking to get Cloonied?
Because that's what happens, Larry.
 
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2022-12-04 2:08:19 AM  

Alphax: Azz: realmolo: It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.

Was he the one with the tank?

That was Dukakis.


Jesus. It only got worse

Wtf were Dems in the 80s thinking
 
2022-12-04 2:10:20 AM  

erik-k: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Then Barack Obama became President, and by doing so proved that even a poor black boy born to a single mother can work hard, become extremely successful & even be President.

And GQPers have never so viciously hated anyone in living memory as they hated him for that.


I don't think they gave it that much thought. All it took to earn their hate was that he's got brown skin, and is obviously much smarter than any of them.
 
2022-12-04 2:14:24 AM  

monsatano: CCNP: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.

What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

[270towin.com image 825x625]

[cdn.shopify.com image 236x382]
"What was I supposed to do, vote for that dorky guy in a tank?"


The guy in the tank lost to Bush Sr. four years after the Reagan landslide shown in that map.
 
2022-12-04 2:17:33 AM  

realmolo: CCNP: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

Reagan was stoking that hatred already. He had a lot of help.

What Reagan stoked hatred looks like.

[270towin.com image 825x625]

Well, yeah.

It was a weird time. And don't underestimate just how incredibly unappealing Mondale was.

The Democrats still have a hard time with accepting that winning a Presidential election is almost entirely about personal charisma. Bill Clinton and Obama had it. Even Carter had it. But the other Democratic candidates in my lifetime haven't.

I still think the Democrats should just draft popular liberal Hollywood actors and run them. I mean, fark it. They'll win way more elections that way.


The Wu is comin' through, the outcome is critical
Farkin' wit my style, is sort of like a Miracle
On 34th Street, in the Square of Herald
I gamed Ella, the biatch caught a Fitz like Gerald-
Ine Ferraro, who's full of sorrow
'cause the hoe didn't win but the sun will still come out tomorrow
And shine shine shine like gold mine
Here comes the drunk monk, with a quart of Ballentine
 
2022-12-04 2:22:46 AM  

Fooshards: monsatano: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Republicans really lost their minds when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Without that monolithic enemy to fear and hate, the GOP turned that fear and hate onto their countrymen.

USSR: Godless communists = bad
Russia: Christian fascists = good

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I love how the "godless russian commies" was the cultural identity that stuck in the USA.  Meanwhile in actual russia, their orthodox church is blaring the propoganda that God is on their side, fighting holy wars, etc, basically all the crap our current Fox News Christians are starting to use to justify hate.


The vast majority of Russians don't give the slightest shiat about Jesus or God.  Four solid generations of no church attendance tends to break people from the idea.
 
2022-12-04 2:24:54 AM  

wademh: WWII did have some "unite against a common enemy", but it also had a giant mixing pot going on among those drafted into the services. It didn't mean people liked each other, but they learned to mostly get along, and they learned that people from outside their limited experience weren't all bad.

Many people no longer mix. The less they mix, the more likely they are to become entrenched in their polarization. That polarization is usually full of misconceptions. We need people mixing.

[travelislife.org image 850x446]


Yeah, there was a whole new battle against domestic evil that followed the victory in WWII...

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https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/events-african-american-history/the-double-v-campaign-1942-1945/

It was the next logical step, but it became a little bit divisive...
 
2022-12-04 2:37:46 AM  
Because almost half the country IS the enemy?
 
2022-12-04 2:39:16 AM  

HighOnCraic: wademh: WWII did have some "unite against a common enemy", but it also had a giant mixing pot going on among those drafted into the services. It didn't mean people liked each other, but they learned to mostly get along, and they learned that people from outside their limited experience weren't all bad.

Many people no longer mix. The less they mix, the more likely they are to become entrenched in their polarization. That polarization is usually full of misconceptions. We need people mixing.

[travelislife.org image 850x446]

Yeah, there was a whole new battle against domestic evil that followed the victory in WWII...

[Fark user image 425x505]

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/events-african-american-history/the-double-v-campaign-1942-1945/

It was the next logical step, but it became a little bit divisive...


It was part of changing men's minds. Some men anyway. What is harder is changing institutions.
 
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