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(Some Guy)   I'm shocked, shocked that the city of Vallejo "inadvertently" destroyed the records of five police shootings before they could be released to the public   (vallejosun.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Solano County, California, video records, Police officer, 2010s, Napa County, California, Year of birth missing, Fairfield, California, Police  
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2250 clicks; posted to Main » on 03 Dec 2022 at 5:45 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-03 5:35:09 PM  
Just as when cops turn off their body cams, attempting to hide evidence should be treated as 'guilty until proven innocent'
 
2022-12-03 5:51:59 PM  
Sounds like that entire police department should be fired.
 
2022-12-03 5:54:07 PM  
Forget it Jake, it's Vallejo.
 
2022-12-03 5:54:36 PM  
Yeah deleted footage? If I was a juror I would expect the cops are lying and vote appropriately. I would be vocal that as a juror, I thought the cops lied.
 
2022-12-03 6:00:11 PM  
Ween - Vallejo
Youtube T_GUq-xqjzg
 
2022-12-03 6:00:40 PM  
Are we ready to abolish the police yet?

#ACAB!
#NoMoreCops!
 
2022-12-03 6:12:36 PM  
Best case scenario: When you have SOOO many police shootings that digital records get lost in the mix on 5 of them at the same time because they were the least remarkable ones.

Wrost case: Pigs and cohort being realllllllll piggy.
 
2022-12-03 6:13:13 PM  
FTA_
"Coleman has since left the department to join the Napa County Sheriff's Office and Joseph is a police officer in Fairfield,"
What do the Catholic Church and police departments across America have in common?
Both think God is fooled by a change of address.
 
2022-12-03 6:14:43 PM  
There was no "inadvertently" about that...they did it on purpose.

ACAB? No...ACAA

All
Cops
Are
Assholes
 
2022-12-03 6:15:09 PM  
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2022-12-03 6:15:37 PM  

skybird659: FTA_
"Coleman has since left the department to join the Napa County Sheriff's Office and Joseph is a police officer in Fairfield,"
What do the Catholic Church and police departments across America have in common?
Both think God is fooled by a change of address.


Um, if you believe in that kind of thing God made them do it
 
2022-12-03 6:17:07 PM  
Just out of curiosity, what would happen to you or me if one of us "accidentally" destroyed footage in five killings we were known to have been involved in, before the police could review it?
 
2022-12-03 6:18:23 PM  
Meanwhile, I have automated backups happen every day on my client's computers, that go back a year.
 
2022-12-03 6:22:40 PM  
When I hear stuff like this, I treat the cops like anyone else.

I think of a trial, where a person is defending themselves against a manslaughter charge.  Their security system recorded the killing, but they claim they accidentally deleted it.  However, they say it was justifiable homicide.

Would you be skeptical?  I would.
 
2022-12-03 6:29:10 PM  

chitownmike: skybird659: FTA_
"Coleman has since left the department to join the Napa County Sheriff's Office and Joseph is a police officer in Fairfield,"
What do the Catholic Church and police departments across America have in common?
Both think God is fooled by a change of address.

Um, if you believe in that kind of thing God made them do it


No, if you believe in that kind of thing you just started a long debate on the nature of divine ineffability and free will.  Grats - you get to party like it's 1499
 
2022-12-03 6:41:20 PM  
City of Vallejo, to me:

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2022-12-03 6:44:05 PM  
This is why I don't really give a shiat when a cop gets shot dead on duty.
 
2022-12-03 6:44:25 PM  
Not a lawyer, but isn't intentionally destroying records during discovery grounds for a summary judgment for the other side? I seem to remember that's what Mr 'school shootings don't really happen' lost 50 million bucks a pop on.
 
2022-12-03 6:45:03 PM  
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2022-12-03 6:49:18 PM  
How soon will the rookie file clerk be offered up as the sacrifice by the police department?
 
2022-12-03 6:58:24 PM  
All investigations of police involved deaths should be the jurisdiction of the FBI, too many conflicts of interest at the State and local level.  Not that I trust the feds that justice will be done, just locals are worse.  One step at a time
 
2022-12-03 7:08:21 PM  
COPS = CPOS

/ Certainly Pieces of shiat
// every single one
/// no exceptions
 
2022-12-03 7:30:18 PM  
States atty saved those taxpayers some huge payouts
 
2022-12-03 7:52:30 PM  
 
2022-12-03 8:19:40 PM  

iheartscotch: Sounds like that entire police department should be fired.


Hanged. They lead the nation in per capita homicide by cop
 
2022-12-03 8:32:28 PM  

johnphantom: Yeah deleted footage? If I was a juror I would expect the cops are lying and vote appropriately. I would be vocal that as a juror, I thought the cops lied.


You keep your whore mouth shut until you're in the jury room deliberating or they'll remove you
 
2022-12-03 8:33:27 PM  

ClavellBCMI: How soon will the rookie file clerk be offered up as the sacrifice by the police department?


Civilian consultant. Not gonna offer up a police
 
2022-12-03 8:45:07 PM  

iheartscotch: Sounds like that entire police department should be fired.


15 years ago when the FBI sounded the warning that Nazis were working fervently to infiltrate law enforcement something could've been done.

Now thanks to the GQP, the Nazis have had time to become captains and lieutenants and there probably is legitimately no way to do this other than to rehire entire departments, this time screening Nazis OUT instead of in.
 
2022-12-03 8:46:16 PM  

erik-k: iheartscotch: Sounds like that entire police department should be fired.

15 years ago when the FBI sounded the warning that Nazis were working fervently to infiltrate law enforcement something could've been done.

Now thanks to the GQP, the Nazis have had time to become captains and lieutenants and there probably is legitimately no way to do this other than to rehire entire departments, this time screening Nazis OUT instead of in.


They're in the fbi as well
 
2022-12-03 8:51:43 PM  

Watubi: All investigations of police involved deaths should be the jurisdiction of the FBI, too many conflicts of interest at the State and local level.  Not that I trust the feds that justice will be done, just locals are worse.  One step at a time


Seems fair to me! I bet our Justice Department is/will very soon.
 
2022-12-03 8:53:05 PM  

Marksrevenge: Just out of curiosity, what would happen to you or me if one of us "accidentally" destroyed footage in five killings we were known to have been involved in, before the police could review it?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_inference
 
2022-12-03 9:07:51 PM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Are we ready to abolish the police yet?

#ACAB!
#NoMoreCops!


And the bootlickers who funnied this.
 
2022-12-03 10:07:07 PM  
There are cops willing to kill you for not obeying quickly enough and being the 'correct' skin color.  There are cops willing to execute people to cover up their criminality too.  The safest interaction with LEOs are the ones that don't happen.
 
2022-12-03 10:36:28 PM  

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2022-12-03 10:37:53 PM  
Isn't this the town whose cops didn't realize the East Area Rapist (later, the Golden State Killer) was one of them?
 
2022-12-03 10:58:17 PM  

chitownmike: skybird659: FTA_
"Coleman has since left the department to join the Napa County Sheriff's Office and Joseph is a police officer in Fairfield,"
What do the Catholic Church and police departments across America have in common?
Both think God is fooled by a change of address.

Um, if you believe in that kind of thing God made them do it


Not going to bother arguing a concept that I don't really believe in. My point is that both organizations claim to.
 
2022-12-03 11:18:34 PM  

Gubbo: johnphantom: Yeah deleted footage? If I was a juror I would expect the cops are lying and vote appropriately. I would be vocal that as a juror, I thought the cops lied.

You keep your whore mouth shut until you're in the jury room deliberating or they'll remove you


Duh? They didn't say be vocal in the courtroom. But bet your ass they (and I) would be bringing it up repeatedly during deliberations.
 
2022-12-04 1:54:07 AM  
Modify the law to require the office of the state Attorney General to take custody of the records and perform any allowed destruction rather than leave it up to the individual agency or city.
 
2022-12-04 3:10:15 AM  
Meanwhile, your littering tickets and stint on the Group W bench back in the 70s are still there.
 
2022-12-04 4:00:16 AM  

mjjt: Just as when cops turn off their body cams, attempting to hide evidence should be treated as 'guilty until proven innocent'


Agreed. This should be a strict liability offence.

Lose something that might show a public employee committing a crime? 1 year in jail unless you can prove outside influence / genuine technical failure.
 
2022-12-04 4:50:46 AM  
OOPS
 
2022-12-04 8:01:59 AM  
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2022-12-04 11:08:33 AM  

mjjt: Just as when cops turn off their body cams, attempting to hide evidence should be treated as 'guilty until proven innocent'


Turning off body cameras could be a mistake--someone meant to turn them on and we go with unified on/off buttons.  The fix there is cameras should have a very different way of being turned off.

However, the record destruction was deliberate.  It should result in a basically automatic judgment in any suit brought about those shootings.
 
2022-12-04 1:51:29 PM  
Make "inadvertently" deleting police videos a prison crime. See how fast backup copies show up.
 
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