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2022-12-03 8:16:48 AM  
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2022-12-03 8:21:00 AM  

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Heh, I was going to write that it's bullsh*it eraser.
 
2022-12-03 8:27:10 AM  
It's filled with lies and menthol, just like your mother in law.
 
2022-12-03 8:28:28 AM  
I call it "Spray Theatre".
 
2022-12-03 8:29:41 AM  
Spray Theatre cures "Injury Theatre" so common in soccer and now spreading to basketball.
 
2022-12-03 8:58:38 AM  
I imagine it's something like biofreeze.

*Reads article.*

Oh, so it's something like biofreeze.
 
2022-12-03 9:37:06 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I imagine it's something like biofreeze.

*Reads article.*

Oh, so it's something like biofreeze.


Yeah, it's one of those things where it did something to fix a guy with a legitimate though minor problem once, and now every flop king uses it to act like it solves his putative dislocated skull.
 
2022-12-03 9:45:13 AM  
With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"
 
2022-12-03 9:52:33 AM  
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2022-12-03 10:28:15 AM  
This many times in the hooch at DaNang we used to sit in the dark for a few minutes, then turn on the light and there would be large cockroaches out on the floor. The ETH spray had a range of about 6 feet. We would spray a cockroach as it fled for cover, slower, slower, slower until full freeze up. Then make bets on whose roach would thaw first.

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Good times, Babe, good times.
 
2022-12-03 11:10:37 AM  
It's placebo spray.

Regarding flopping in soccer:
The footwork required in soccer is astounding. Maintaining balance, leverage, and momentum asks a lot of the feet and legs. What I'm saying is that it doesn't take much for it all to go wrong. A tap of another player's foot could legitimately cause him to tumble and be injured. Interfering with a players plant foot could blow out his ankle, easy peasy, but it might look innocuous.

So, a guy gets tapped and goes down. It could certainly be legit. I mean, 95% of the time it's not. But the ref doesn't really know so he'll call it.
 
2022-12-03 11:25:10 AM  
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2022-12-03 11:26:40 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I imagine it's something like biofreeze.

*Reads article.*

Oh, so it's something like biofreeze.


Got asked this yesterday and said "Probably biofreeze or an aerosolized analgesic", still not going to RTFA
 
2022-12-03 11:30:27 AM  

RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"


I'm not a soccer buff, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but doesn't flopping and pleading with an official give your teammates 10-20 seconds to rest and catch their breath? American football, basketball, hockey, baseball all have frequent breaks in play, where as soccer's clock runs continuously and players subbed out cannot return.

So flopping might be a smart use of time rather than a waste of time. The soap opera acting is just for fun.
 
2022-12-03 11:33:22 AM  
Quickly applying some cold and some pain relief can help shut down the inflammation cycle.

Ideally followed by rest. But sportsball comes first.
 
2022-12-03 11:36:41 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: I'm not a soccer buff, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but doesn't flopping and pleading with an official give your teammates 10-20 seconds to rest and catch their breath?


Rest, catch your breath, get back into position, etc.
 
2022-12-03 11:42:48 AM  

Deathbymeteor: AnotherBluesStringer: I imagine it's something like biofreeze.

*Reads article.*

Oh, so it's something like biofreeze.

Got asked this yesterday and said "Probably biofreeze or an aerosolized analgesic", still not going to RTFA


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2022-12-03 11:45:21 AM  
They need some head-on on the bench as well
 
2022-12-03 11:48:20 AM  
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2022-12-03 11:54:07 AM  

chitownmike: Deathbymeteor: AnotherBluesStringer: I imagine it's something like biofreeze.

*Reads article.*

Oh, so it's something like biofreeze.

Got asked this yesterday and said "Probably biofreeze or an aerosolized analgesic", still not going to RTFA

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Yes, but it's also a healthy dose of "Mom kissing a boo boo" aka placebo.
 
2022-12-03 11:56:44 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"

I'm not a soccer buff, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but doesn't flopping and pleading with an official give your teammates 10-20 seconds to rest and catch their breath? American football, basketball, hockey, baseball all have frequent breaks in play, where as soccer's clock runs continuously and players subbed out cannot return.

So flopping might be a smart use of time rather than a waste of time. The soap opera acting is just for fun.


The thing is, there is only really one field official.  And that is wholly inadequate.  So, if you get legitimately fouled, you have to do something to attract his attention.  So exaggerating the result is an easy way to do so.  And soccer has no intention of adding in more field officials, so they tacitly allow over-the-top burlesques to take up the slack.  of course, this also encourages guys who just want to be farkasses to flop around and try and garner spurious calls.  But if they added two field official to each cover a half and then the ref to mediate and provide over-watch, you might be able to tighten up on the flopping since calls wouldn't require Olivieresque scenery chewing to get noticed
 
2022-12-03 11:58:49 AM  
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2022-12-03 12:03:55 PM  
I remember the Orioles' trainer, Ralph Salvon, running out and using the mysteroius spray when a player got hit by a ball.
Good memories!
 
2022-12-03 12:06:20 PM  
It is little more than theater, like the other events surrounding the player needing it.
 
2022-12-03 12:17:27 PM  
Must be a homeopathic spray.  That's what works best on homeopathic injuries.
 
2022-12-03 12:30:12 PM  
I have the same amount of respect for soccer players as they do for themselves which is none.


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2022-12-03 12:37:42 PM  

RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"


I've long argued that footie needs to stamp out the flopping and play-acting. It should adopt the rugby union rules: play-acting gets you the equivalent of a yellow card, and moreover, only the team captain is allowed to talk to the referee.
 
2022-12-03 12:41:18 PM  

ukexpat: RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"

I've long argued that footie needs to stamp out the flopping and play-acting. It should adopt the rugby union rules: play-acting gets you the equivalent of a yellow card, and moreover, only the team captain is allowed to talk to the referee.


This...it is pathetic.  In hockey players dive but they also get called for it fairly often.

NSFW ref language/hurt feefees

James Neal dives, ref calls him out 12/7/15
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2022-12-03 12:46:26 PM  

RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".


Why does soccer aficionados bother replying? When someone complains about the "problem", its just, they don't get soccer, and then they use that as a way to vocalise it.

That's not why they don't enjoy soccer, of course it isn't. Its just that people feel that need to have a reason, since the sport is so popular.
 
2022-12-03 12:48:23 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: RedZoneTuba: With regards to flopping in soccer: I often hear the counter-argument from soccer aficionados that "every sport does it".  American football receivers exaggerate contact to get a pass interference, hockey players embellish a light tap on the helmet to get a high sticking penalty, etc.
This is all true, but soccer is the only sport I've seen where they not only exaggerate the contact but have to add a time-wasting and pathetic fake injury to the performance. Does this really help them get a call in their favor?  It seems to me it's more of a sad appeal to the fans: "see I wasn't faking the fall, and now I shall bravely soldier on despite my severe pain!"

I'm not a soccer buff, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but doesn't flopping and pleading with an official give your teammates 10-20 seconds to rest and catch their breath? American football, basketball, hockey, baseball all have frequent breaks in play, where as soccer's clock runs continuously and players subbed out cannot return.

So flopping might be a smart use of time rather than a waste of time. The soap opera acting is just for fun.


Rugby players don't understand why anyone would want to make the game longer. That cuts into beer drinking.
/Begging the hook to hold the ball so the forwards can catch their breath during the scrum
//Smelling ball sweat is better than coughing up a lung
 
2022-12-03 12:48:27 PM  

jack_o_the_hills: This...it is pathetic.  In hockey players dive but they also get called for it fairly often.


Unless it's Sidney Crosby.
 
2022-12-03 12:49:30 PM  
The fact that we have to ask is interesting. "No, we don't have doping - but we also have no clue what they're spraying on injured players, and we apparently treat it as a trade secret for some inexplicable reason..."
 
2022-12-03 1:02:19 PM  
I invite anyone here to take an innocuous looking kick in the shin from a professional footballer.
 
2022-12-03 1:04:30 PM  

drewogatory: I invite anyone here to take an innocuous looking kick in the shin from a professional footballer.


Yea but there are legitimate dives quite a bit, where there is no contact and they still go down. Worst thing about the sport, and I love soccer.
 
2022-12-03 1:09:23 PM  

drewogatory: I invite anyone here to take an innocuous looking kick in the shin from a professional footballer.


Have.  Wasn't that bad. Guy on our team played for Palermo and went 120% into a 50/50 ball.  Even a soccer fan that I am can say, they do dive a lot.

/same friend said that Palermo has an hour of diving practice a day
 
2022-12-03 1:10:12 PM  

stevecore: drewogatory: I invite anyone here to take an innocuous looking kick in the shin from a professional footballer.

Have.  Wasn't that bad. Guy on our team played for Palermo and went 120% into a 50/50 ball.  Even a soccer fan that I am can say, they do dive a lot.

/same friend said that Palermo has an hour of diving practice a day


Correcting myself if there was confusion.  He subbed for the other team in a game and we had the 50/50 ball.
 
2022-12-03 1:18:24 PM  
The interesting (?) thing is that the hatred of flopping in soccer seems to be an American thing. From what I know (and if anyone from outside America wants to correct me feel free) fans from most other countries just chalk up diving as being part of the game and don't really mind it.
 
2022-12-03 1:28:43 PM  
What's in the bottle varies from brand to brand, but the sprays usually contain ethyl chloride, a prescription medication used as a topical antiseptic and cooling substance, or methyl salicylate, a counter-irritant that can cause a cold-and-hot feeling and is commonly found in over-the-counter rubs like Bengay.

So, in other words, it's aerosol this:
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2022-12-03 1:37:49 PM  

snocone: This many times in the hooch at DaNang we used to sit in the dark for a few minutes, then turn on the light and there would be large cockroaches out on the floor. The ETH spray had a range of about 6 feet. We would spray a cockroach as it fled for cover, slower, slower, slower until full freeze up. Then make bets on whose roach would thaw first.

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Good times, Babe, good times.


I've hit bugs with hairspray before, it works, too.
 
2022-12-03 1:42:18 PM  

lindalouwho: snocone: This many times in the hooch at DaNang we used to sit in the dark for a few minutes, then turn on the light and there would be large cockroaches out on the floor. The ETH spray had a range of about 6 feet. We would spray a cockroach as it fled for cover, slower, slower, slower until full freeze up. Then make bets on whose roach would thaw first.

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Good times, Babe, good times.

I've hit bugs with hairspray before, it works, too.


Yeah, but it's a different mechanism. The hairspray glues their legs and wings to their bodies. ETH puts them into temporary cryo-suspension which is a way more sci-fi method of dealing with bugs.
 
2022-12-03 1:53:46 PM  
Cloves. Good for hams of all kind including baseball players and normal kitchen use.
 
2022-12-03 1:54:58 PM  

WoodyHayes: I have the same amount of respect for soccer players as they do for themselves which is none.


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At least soccer players don't check the other guy's oil, as far as I know. I hope that practice is gone from football.
 
2022-12-03 1:57:22 PM  
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2022-12-03 2:16:34 PM  
Old and tired: vaccines is devil's tool and don't work
New hotness: aerosolized analgesic is devil's tool and don't work
 
2022-12-03 2:19:57 PM  

knbwhite: WoodyHayes: I have the same amount of respect for soccer players as they do for themselves which is none.


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At least soccer players don't check the other guy's oil, as far as I know. I hope that practice is gone from football.


There have been penis biting incidents in soccer which is expected but sadly, oil checking is a practice not gone from football.
 
2022-12-03 2:35:05 PM  
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2022-12-03 2:43:16 PM  

TDWCom29: The interesting (?) thing is that the hatred of flopping in soccer seems to be an American thing. From what I know (and if anyone from outside America wants to correct me feel free) fans from most other countries just chalk up diving as being part of the game and don't really mind it.


Incorrect. For decades, people have called out players for other teams that do it. There was even a scandal in like 2002 because some team was caught coaching and practicing flopping. Italy had a reputation of being particularly egregious for a long time.

Flopping isn't just going down because you're pushed or tripped. It's the complete fabrication and overplaying of an injury before popping up and running off clearly just fine.

One difference I've really seen is Americans hate the concept of stoppage time, and would rather stop the game, myself included. A lot of people in Europe think that would be insane, for reasons they've never been able to explain to me.
 
2022-12-03 2:47:34 PM  

Quantumbunny: TDWCom29: The interesting (?) thing is that the hatred of flopping in soccer seems to be an American thing. From what I know (and if anyone from outside America wants to correct me feel free) fans from most other countries just chalk up diving as being part of the game and don't really mind it.

Incorrect. For decades, people have called out players for other teams that do it. There was even a scandal in like 2002 because some team was caught coaching and practicing flopping. Italy had a reputation of being particularly egregious for a long time.

Flopping isn't just going down because you're pushed or tripped. It's the complete fabrication and overplaying of an injury before popping up and running off clearly just fine.

One difference I've really seen is Americans hate the concept of stoppage time, and would rather stop the game, myself included. A lot of people in Europe think that would be insane, for reasons they've never been able to explain to me.


In MLS, I've seen VAR turn a penalty into a yellow card for diving. It's rare, but it's happened.
 
2022-12-03 2:56:37 PM  
Gebauer's ethyl chloride?

:::checks article:::

 
2022-12-03 3:01:03 PM  

Quantumbunny: TDWCom29: The interesting (?) thing is that the hatred of flopping in soccer seems to be an American thing. From what I know (and if anyone from outside America wants to correct me feel free) fans from most other countries just chalk up diving as being part of the game and don't really mind it.

Incorrect. For decades, people have called out players for other teams that do it. There was even a scandal in like 2002 because some team was caught coaching and practicing flopping. Italy had a reputation of being particularly egregious for a long time.

Flopping isn't just going down because you're pushed or tripped. It's the complete fabrication and overplaying of an injury before popping up and running off clearly just fine.

One difference I've really seen is Americans hate the concept of stoppage time, and would rather stop the game, myself included. A lot of people in Europe think that would be insane, for reasons they've never been able to explain to me.


Because Americans need things to be precise. Why is he taking that free kick there?! The foul occurred 5 years father back! But the ball didn't go out right there, why is he throwing it in from there?! This is insane! Does no one care?! THE CLOCK IS STILL RUNNING!!
 
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