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2022-12-02 11:15:39 PM  
Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.
 
2022-12-02 11:50:00 PM  

aleister_greynight: Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.


90% certain this is sarcasm.
 
2022-12-03 12:18:35 AM  

Redh8t: aleister_greynight: Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.

90% certain this is sarcasm.


Except for the removing weapons part, it was sarcasm.
 
2022-12-03 12:20:17 AM  
I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.
 
2022-12-03 1:06:42 AM  
"US gas is cheaper than before Russia invaded Ukraine"

Good god, don't let the public know. It'll interrupt so many narratives in the GOP and in Fark "progressive" circles.
 
2022-12-03 1:15:39 AM  

aleister_greynight: Redh8t: aleister_greynight: Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.

90% certain this is sarcasm.

Except for the removing weapons part, it was sarcasm.


Can't argue against removing tools of war.
 
2022-12-03 3:11:53 AM  
Brother, can you spare a conservative talking point?
 
2022-12-03 3:12:37 AM  
Almost as if the market rerouting around the damage. I hate capitalism but that's like the only good thing about it. Eventually it adjust despite the gnashing of teeth and how many people it kills in the process.
 
2022-12-03 3:12:51 AM  
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2022-12-03 3:15:18 AM  
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2022-12-03 3:18:30 AM  

thatboyoverthere: Almost as if the market rerouting around the damage. I hate capitalism but that's like the only good thing about it. Eventually it adjust despite the gnashing of teeth and how many people it kills in the process.


To paraphrase Churchill, capitalism is the worse kind of economic system, but it is better than any other kind.

But the 'Invisible Hand' does not need to keep its pimp hand strong...
 
2022-12-03 3:21:57 AM  
That's quite interesting actually. What will happen to prices if the war ends and everybody agrees to start moving energy fluids again? Does that add inflationary inputs to the economy? Does that provide needed relief to consumers struggling with inflation?

/FOUXNews will asplain Biden is wrecking the economy
 
2022-12-03 3:24:06 AM  
Not around here. Gas has been stuck at $4/gallon for two months, now.
 
2022-12-03 3:25:35 AM  
All I know is this image threw me back many decades:

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I think Imma make my arduino powered thermostat look just like that for the fun of it!
 
2022-12-03 3:26:13 AM  

aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.


Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.
 
2022-12-03 3:29:13 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.


I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...
 
2022-12-03 3:36:14 AM  
Thanks, Joe. You are doing a great job. ❤
 
2022-12-03 3:46:41 AM  
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2022-12-03 3:48:34 AM  
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/i'm here for the gang bang shiatposts
 
2022-12-03 3:51:25 AM  

aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...


Territorial citizens (US nationals) also do not pay US federal taxes, but they do have their own tax systems.  I'm not sure if that works out to them paying less or not.

They probably have less jobs coming to their islands since they don't have a sitting member of Congress to sponsor pork. However, this may not matter that much anyway since they're a tiny island, and the potential diversity of jobs is not as great as a state on the mainland.

They certainly do pay more for most things, as everything has to be imported, and if they have family living in the US, travel expenses are higher. However, that in itself probably works out to be an industry.
 
2022-12-03 3:52:18 AM  

aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...


I just learned about this as well, NYT had an article.

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2022-12-03 3:59:29 AM  
See what happens when you convert Etherium to pos
 
2022-12-03 4:15:24 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...

I just learned about this as well, NYT had an article.

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Yeah, I just sort of imagined all the remaining Pacific territories, could combine into a state like Hawaii.
 
2022-12-03 4:25:34 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...

I just learned about this as well, NYT had an article.

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Being in the 4.00-4.50 zone sucks dicknuts.

I saw a station all the way "down" to 4.09 yesterday and *mind blown*.
 
2022-12-03 4:26:54 AM  
Empty out strategic reserves and then we will eventually see a rebound
 
2022-12-03 4:41:04 AM  
"Hey! Gas prices dropping like crazy!"
Fox News: "What? What? I can't hear you....."
 
2022-12-03 5:33:25 AM  
Dropping like a rock here since the election, just like after every other recent election.  No, it's not collusion.
 
2022-12-03 5:33:49 AM  

usernameguy: Not around here. Gas has been stuck at $4/gallon for two months, now.


It's still almost $5 near me.
 
2022-12-03 5:38:04 AM  

QFarker: Dropping like a rock here since the election, just like after every other recent election.  No, it's not collusion.


Yeah, quite a coincidence, huh?

It's gone down ~ $.75/gallon in 3 weeks around here, even through the Thanksgiving holiday, when they usually go up
 
2022-12-03 5:43:34 AM  
Is it cheaper than before Biden became president?

Here's a CNN link especially for those who won't even consider anything from a non-biased site.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/fact-check-biden-gas-prices
 
2022-12-03 5:46:01 AM  

aleister_greynight: Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.


Yes, let's give them all the incentives to get nuclear weapons for deterrence.
 
2022-12-03 6:28:27 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Brother, can you spare a conservative talking point?


•• Low gas prices now are because the market anticipates great things from the GOP majority in the House of Representatives. If the Democraps hadn't cheated to keep the Senate, gas would be less than $2. Send $$ to the RNC so we can take our country back in 2024 and Make America Glorious Again. ••

Here ya go, don't shiatpost it all in one place
 
2022-12-03 6:31:09 AM  
All I know is that gas was 3.39 when I just bought a few minutes ago.  But you won't find a single Republican talking about that.  Well, unless it's them taking credit for it.  Something along the lines of, "See?  All we had to do was win, and prices fell!  Same thing with crime!!"
 
2022-12-03 6:51:24 AM  
Lol I had to listen to so many customers tell me gas prices were going way back up after the midterms.
 
2022-12-03 7:15:01 AM  

aleister_greynight: Redh8t: aleister_greynight: Remove all defenses from Middle East countries like Saudi Arabia, until they become vassal states.  Fark defending them for free.

90% certain this is sarcasm.

Except for the removing weapons part, it was sarcasm.


The american military brass constantly betray the USA, illegally taking money to work for the Saudis,

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hundreds-retired-us-military-officers-jobs-saudi-uae-say-reports

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/veterans-us-foreign-jobs-saudi-arabia/

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/20/1130134459/hundreds-of-retired-u-s-military-personnel-have-taken-foreign-jobs-report-says

The USA seems to be the vassal state nowadays, and not enforce the laws that would maintain it's above-vassal status.

Also...that's what the USA does with its UN Security Council... It ensures contracts for its retired military, meaning it ensures Saudi military power.
 
2022-12-03 7:18:45 AM  
"Why won't anyone do anything about climate change?!?"

"Woo hoo, lower gas prices so I can travel more!"
 
2022-12-03 7:39:50 AM  
Filled up the car yesterday at $2.69 per gallon. Not much of a line at that location compared to Sam's club at $2.61.
 
2022-12-03 7:48:34 AM  
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2022-12-03 9:05:54 AM  

khatores: aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...

Territorial citizens (US nationals) also do not pay US federal taxes, but they do have their own tax systems.  I'm not sure if that works out to them paying less or not.

They probably have less jobs coming to their islands since they don't have a sitting member of Congress to sponsor pork. However, this may not matter that much anyway since they're a tiny island, and the potential diversity of jobs is not as great as a state on the mainland.

They certainly do pay more for most things, as everything has to be imported, and if they have family living in the US, travel expenses are higher. However, that in itself probably works out to be an industry.


They get to use the "Made in USA" tag without paying federal minimum wage, adhering to OSHA or environmental regs, and (last I heard) get to import basically slave labor from other island nations. Made in USA products are highly prized around the Asian Pacific zone.
 
2022-12-03 9:06:35 AM  

GreenSun: Is it cheaper than before Biden became president?

Here's a CNN link especially for those who won't even consider anything from a non-biased site.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/fact-check-biden-gas-prices


You still think the POTUS has something to do with the price of gas?
Your second comment reads like you're upset that farkers demand unbiased news sources. You then post a CNN source. They've moved steadily to the right since the new ceo took over in the spring.

Tl;dr - nice try, magat
 
2022-12-03 9:08:11 AM  
It's almost like the oil economy is a politically manipulated scam.
 
2022-12-03 9:31:13 AM  

RoLleRKoaSTeR: Filled up the car yesterday at $2.69 per gallon. Not much of a line at that location compared to Sam's club at $2.61.


Similar here only with Costco.

Yeah I may save 70-80 cents on a tank of gas, but is it really worth sitting in line for close to ten minutes...?

I can use those ten minutes to... Err, "pump my numbers up".
 
2022-12-03 9:33:58 AM  
What everyone tried to pretend never happened is that fuel companies already started price gouging before Russia attacked.
It gets in the way of the excuse.
 
2022-12-03 9:36:27 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Brother, can you spare a conservative talking point?


Good to see the DeSantis recovery starting to kick in.
 
2022-12-03 9:53:37 AM  
It's been inching down from 3.50 to 3.00 where I live

All these vendors that added fuel surcharges last year will surely remove them, right?
 
2022-12-03 10:03:20 AM  

khatores: aleister_greynight: centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.

I just kind of assumed they would be part of the greater state of Guam, I didn't know the rest before...

Territorial citizens (US nationals) also do not pay US federal taxes, but they do have their own tax systems.  I'm not sure if that works out to them paying less or not.

They probably have less jobs coming to their islands since they don't have a sitting member of Congress to sponsor pork. However, this may not matter that much anyway since they're a tiny island, and the potential diversity of jobs is not as great as a state on the mainland.

They certainly do pay more for most things, as everything has to be imported, and if they have family living in the US, travel expenses are higher. However, that in itself probably works out to be an industry.


Each territory does get a non voting delegate to the House. I think the big obstacle to statehood for American Samoa is its immense distance from any other part of the USA and its population of under 50,000.
 
2022-12-03 10:14:01 AM  
Wow, so the midterm elections really are over.
 
2022-12-03 10:24:22 AM  

centrifugal bumblepuppy: aleister_greynight: I don't actually support the idea of the US having colonies.  That's why Guam and PR should become states.

Then there's the case of American Samoa where it's a US territory whose government has declined US citizenship for native-born residents. American Samoans are instead US nationals, able to travel to the US without a visa, but can't vote outside the territory, can't hold a federal job, can't hold officer rank in the military. And seeing what happened to Hawaii after statehood, they're apprehensive about citizenship.


Yeah... it's all very complicated.

In the end, their choice.  If they want to be independent, cut them loose.  Want to remain outlying territories, go for it.  Want to permanently sever part of their sovereignty to the federal system and become a state?  Welcome aboard.

We shouldn't force the decision on them.

Anyway, DC is the weirdest one to me.  States have shared sovereignty with the federal government.  Territories are considered protectorates under the US government, but maintain a degree of sovereignty.  Even Indian reserverations maintain a degree of (at least theoretical) sovereignty.

Not DC.  It's the only place that is solely national government.  How it's governed is purely at the pleasure of the federal government - they devolve local self-government, but it's always conditional.  The people have no actual representation... they are more subjects than citizens.
 
2022-12-03 10:50:43 AM  
The Brandon memes are far from stupid
 
2022-12-03 11:02:07 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Brother, can you spare a conservative talking point?


Brother, can you paradigm?
 
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