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2022-12-03 2:09:17 AM  
I guess the facts in this case have been spirited away with stolen votes and Hillary's emails and stored in some big government warehouse.

Do conservatives ever get tired of their conspiro bullshiat?
 
2022-12-03 2:31:03 AM  
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2022-12-03 3:44:08 AM  
FTFA: Free-speech crusader Elon Musk

That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".
 
2022-12-03 4:16:45 AM  

Ghastly: FTFA: Free-speech crusader Elon Musk

That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".


Dragging lies that were identified as lies back into the limelight is not free speech.

It was bullshiat then, Elrod, and it's still bullshiat.
 
2022-12-03 5:17:00 AM  
It's Cheeto's own fault to consistently be loose with the truth while making multiple public attempts to get any dirt, real or not, against the Bidens.  The photos I've seen just look like someone did hack the laptop cam.  It was reported to watch out for interference, and this appeared to fit the bill.
 
2022-12-03 5:18:46 AM  
People should read the internal documents themselves instead of taking the version of someone who obviously has an agenda.

Also some interviews with past and current twitter employees have to say how the decisions and the reasoning behind them.

I know you'll see DM and blah blah blah now I doubt blah blah blah.

But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497495/Elon-Musk-teases-explosive-Twitter-censorship-revelations-today-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html
 
2022-12-03 5:20:41 AM  

Ghastly: That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".


He is a Nazi.  Full stop.
 
2022-12-03 5:21:10 AM  
Frankly I'm shocked that Elon doesn't seem to know what is going on or wtf he is doing.
 
2022-12-03 5:25:13 AM  
Pretty typical of a Musk product. It's basically the Cybertruck as a Twitter thread.
 
2022-12-03 5:30:30 AM  
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2022-12-03 5:30:42 AM  
Taibbi and Musk suffer under the idea that the First Amendment, rather than Twitter policy, governs what Twitter can remove.

While it certainly sounds questionable for the Biden election campaign to message Twitter to remove tweets, consider that Taibbi himself notes no government involvement, in October 2020 Biden was not even the president-elect as yet, the links that the Biden team flagged turn out to be mostly pornographic while non-consensual pornography was and remains a violation of Twitter Terms of Service.

So unless the argument from Taibbi and Musk is that the First Amendment guarantees the right to post non-consensual pornography and dick pics, and an election campaign is construed as "the government", there is no there there.

Insert xkcd reminder about the First Amendment

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And their answer to "Twitter staff and Dorsey deleted tweets and accounts at the behest of the Bidens" scandal is now that Musk will delete accounts at the behest of random alt-right knobs, and then reinstate access for Nazis... Apparently.
 
2022-12-03 5:40:20 AM  
Ah for the good old days when the LWNJ's were howling about how the Pee Pee Files were going to take trump down.

Maybe you all should all team up with tom arnold and find those tapes.
 
2022-12-03 5:41:10 AM  
refudiate:

Taibbi plays his hand pretty early on when he opines that Twitter is chock full of libs. Which means the entire thing is about working the refs, not the Biden's or the laptop or even Jack's Twitter.

Or something.

Next step: stepping on leftish sources to balance the scales.
 
2022-12-03 5:43:36 AM  

Ghastly: FTFA: Free-speech crusader Elon Musk

That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".


And this is part of the problem. Labeling. The conservatives have warped the meaning of "liberal" and "socialism" very effectively. We need to call them what they are, and not what they want to be called.

These are ALL fascist racist Nationalist Christian Zionists that are for the European race..
 
2022-12-03 5:44:10 AM  

Trik: Ah for the good old days when the LWNJ's were howling about how the Pee Pee Files were going to take trump down.

Maybe you all should all team up with tom arnold and find those tapes.


That would have been fun, but it turns out Trump was too boring even for that.
 
2022-12-03 5:45:32 AM  

Trik: People should read the internal documents themselves instead of taking the version of someone who obviously has an agenda.

Also some interviews with past and current twitter employees have to say how the decisions and the reasoning behind them.

I know you'll see DM and blah blah blah now I doubt blah blah blah.

But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497495/Elon-Musk-teases-explosive-Twitter-censorship-revelations-today-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html


If there's ever been a "news" service committed to the principles of journalism, it's the Daily Fail Mail.
 
2022-12-03 5:52:04 AM  
Considering how frequently I saw bullshiat about Hunter Biden's magic laptops on Twitter against my farking will, the idea that it was 'suppressed' is laughable.
 
2022-12-03 5:53:33 AM  

Trik: Ah for the good old days when the LWNJ's were howling about how the Pee Pee Files were going to take trump down.

Maybe you all should all team up with tom arnold and find those tapes.


Wait so you think the pee tape story was total nonsense?

The guy who had Russian mobsters living in his building he personally met with?  After his sons both talked about the outsized amount of Russian money propping up their business?  After he visited russia in the 90's and took out a $100k ad in the NYT talking about ending NATO after retuning to the US?  The guy who grabs them by the P and raw dogs porn stars when his wife's home with a newborn?  You are telling me that the story is unfounded?  From the guy who hung out with Epstein regularly?  That guy?  You think that guy was incapable of doing some foul schtuff with russian hookers and it being filmed? The guy who had multiple people in his orbiatcharged with felonies for working with Russians and foreign countries outside of the law? The hunter story is totes legit but the trump pee tape is a bridge too far and a total fabrication?

Ok....
 
2022-12-03 5:54:13 AM  

edmo: I guess the facts in this case have been spirited away with stolen votes and Hillary's emails and stored in some big government warehouse.

Do conservatives ever get tired of their conspiro bullshiat?


It is pretty much all their platform is these days, along with guns and tax cuts. They shot their shot with abortion and the war on Christmas does not seem to be that big this year.
 
2022-12-03 5:54:34 AM  
Free-speech crusader Elon Musk

He didn't buy Twitter to promote free speech, he bought it because he's a weak minded egotist whose publicity stunt backfired and he had to be sued into honoring the sales contract.
 
2022-12-03 6:00:58 AM  

Trik: But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.


"a lot" doing a lot of work in this sentence. Twitter responded to both campaigns complaints and requests and yes Twitter employees did have discretion, because they, you know, work for twitter. They debated it internally, as a (once) healthy company does.
 
2022-12-03 6:06:58 AM  
Twitter: follows state and federal law regarding revenge porn

Conservatives and a manchild billionaire: And I took exception to that
 
2022-12-03 6:07:15 AM  
Wasn't Taibbi an investigative reporter for Rolling Stone who once did good reports on the 2008 financial crisis or something like that?

What happened to him?
 
2022-12-03 6:08:15 AM  
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2022-12-03 6:09:46 AM  

Trik: People should read the internal documents themselves instead of taking the version of someone who obviously has an agenda.

Also some interviews with past and current twitter employees have to say how the decisions and the reasoning behind them.

I know you'll see DM and blah blah blah now I doubt blah blah blah.

But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497495/Elon-Musk-teases-explosive-Twitter-censorship-revelations-today-Hunter-Biden-laptop.html


No one outside of the clogosphere seems to share this opinion. It once again seems we've been served a steaming nothingburger of shiat while the wojacks of the world point and scream checkfart.

Did you ever think chicken littling your political opposition would amount to people so tired of FUD they wouldn't give a fark if you even found high crimes and treason?
 
2022-12-03 6:12:27 AM  

refudiate: Taibbi and Musk suffer under the idea that the First Amendment, rather than Twitter policy, governs what Twitter can remove.


Elon Musk has shown no ability to learn or be taught what free speech actually is (and thus, it's protection), he just throws shiat out there like "THIS WAS BLOCKED!!!" like child organ harvesting should be a thing people should stumble upon on his shiatty app.... but Taibbi should know better than this.   He was at one point a real journalist, but somehow fell down the Q rabbit hole during the whole Trump election, Snowden, Wikileaks era and went full Trump/Putin apologist.  It was kind of jarring his abrupt about face in defense of Trump on behalf of Russian interference (which... they have now publicly admitted while mocking us, so yeah).   So here we have pages and pages of nonsense followed by "the government wasn't involved as far as I see" tacked on the end.  That was the point right, we were all gonna find out that the CIA was protecting Joe Biden's campaign?   Honestly, I'm continuously amazed by how weak the Republican smears have been, it's almost like they've run out of ideas.
 
2022-12-03 6:13:12 AM  
They don't understand! Play the clip where Joe tells Hunter that Joe loves Hunter. It's clearly criminal.....

/ criminal for a father to unconditionally love his child....

// I think I now know what is wrong with the Red Hats
 
2022-12-03 6:13:53 AM  
I wonder if Elon Musk is going to single-handedly revive the American libel litigation market
 
2022-12-03 6:21:14 AM  

bostonguy: Wasn't Taibbi an investigative reporter for Rolling Stone who once did good reports on the 2008 financial crisis or something like that?

What happened to him?


Yes, he wrote bitterly and hilariously about Goldman Sachs as a "vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money" for Rolling Stone and did some criticism of capitalism and grift.

It is also worth noting that before Rolling Stone and The Daily Beast, Taibbi was infamous for having started the eXile, a tabloid for English-language exiles in Russia in the 90s, where he and his friend Mark Ames were infamous for sexual harassment of women, abusive practical tricks, and conniving with security and intelligence groups meeting at the Hungry Duck, offering Ames and Taibbi material from their kompromat materiel.

In an ironic twist on his latest thread for Musk, Taibbi and his clique have been known to harass and report any tweets which refer to his sexual escapades or abuse, even though that has been well-documented by them themselves in their book on the eXile years. So his condemning of the Biden campaign for demanding the removal of links to non-consensual porn or pics of Hunter's dick comes off as rich hypocrisy... or potentially even worse. 

Ever wonder why so many of these America First purported conservatives come back from Moscow singing the praises of a "white European Christian conservative nation where women know their place"... and do you think it has anything to do with Russia's well-known gambit of kompromat? And Taibbi lived there for over ten years.

Just thinking out loud...
 
2022-12-03 6:47:06 AM  
Repugs love looking at Hunter's dick. They have a bad case of penis envy.
 
2022-12-03 6:47:45 AM  

Trik: But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.


So... in the first place you're upset that Twitter moderated the content posted to Twitter?

And then you're upset that Private Citizen and Presidential Candidate Joe Biden asked - not "demanded" or "threatened", per the damn screenshots in Taibbi's thread - that Twitter not splash his son's dick all over the internet?

// and even if ...all of that, who the fark cares? is there some political reason we needed to see nudie pics of Hunter Biden in October 2020 other than OOGA BOOGA SOMETHING SOMETHING DEMS IN DISARRAY VOTE TRUMP?
 
2022-12-03 6:50:37 AM  

Space Station Wagon: Repugs love looking at Hunter's dick. They have a bad case of penis envy.


It's kinda farking weird, NGL.  Like, James Woods is suing because they blocked him from posting some other guy's dick pic?   In other news, PSA folks:  Dick pics are never a good idea.  Nobody wants them, not even you once she puts it on IG.
 
2022-12-03 6:58:37 AM  
Until he bought Twitter, I really knew nothing about Musk.

It seems like he is a real jackass.
 
2022-12-03 7:00:11 AM  
Buttery males!  Too early?
 
2022-12-03 7:03:27 AM  

edmo: I guess the facts in this case have been spirited away with stolen votes and Hillary's emails and stored in some big government warehouse.

Do conservatives ever get tired of their conspiro bullshiat?


Absolutely not. It's all they have
 
2022-12-03 7:19:15 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Trik: But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.

So... in the first place you're upset that Twitter moderated the content posted to Twitter?

And then you're upset that Private Citizen and Presidential Candidate Joe Biden asked - not "demanded" or "threatened", per the damn screenshots in Taibbi's thread - that Twitter not splash his son's dick all over the internet?

// and even if ...all of that, who the fark cares? is there some political reason we needed to see nudie pics of Hunter Biden in October 2020 other than OOGA BOOGA SOMETHING SOMETHING DEMS IN DISARRAY VOTE TRUMP?


Show me where I mentioned biden.
 
2022-12-03 7:26:02 AM  
Remember, the basis of this whole "conspiracy" is the idea that Hunter Biden had a laptop just loaded with incriminating shiat, that he took to a random schmuck's computer repair shop on the other side of the country from where he lived at the time, and left it there despite the alleged incriminating evidence. The computer repairman then decided to poke through the files just for shiats and giggles, and decided to alert Rudy farking Giuliani instead of anyone credible.  And that's BEFORE we get into the rest of the mishandling of the alleged 'evidence'.

It's telling that Biden is so farking bland that conservatives are barely even targeting him for this fishing expedition, but his son.
 
2022-12-03 7:32:44 AM  

Trik: Dr Dreidel: Trik: But the fact is a lot was suppressed at twitter employee discretion and agenda.
Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.

So... in the first place you're upset that Twitter moderated the content posted to Twitter?

And then you're upset that Private Citizen and Presidential Candidate Joe Biden asked - not "demanded" or "threatened", per the damn screenshots in Taibbi's thread - that Twitter not splash his son's dick all over the internet?

// and even if ...all of that, who the fark cares? is there some political reason we needed to see nudie pics of Hunter Biden in October 2020 other than OOGA BOOGA SOMETHING SOMETHING DEMS IN DISARRAY VOTE TRUMP?

Show me where I mentioned biden.


Not specifically, I guess - but Taibbi mentions Biden contacting Twitter.

// other Democrats who contacted Twitter did so to make sure the Twits were appropriately genuflecting to Freezepeach in their refusal to splash Hunter Biden's dick across the internet
// so replace "Biden" with "Biden-aligned Democrats" in mine
// which seems a distinction without a difference, but this is Pedantry.com
 
2022-12-03 7:37:18 AM  

bostonguy: Wasn't Taibbi an investigative reporter for Rolling Stone who once did good reports on the 2008 financial crisis or something like that?

What happened to him?


Fame

It's a hell of a drug
 
2022-12-03 7:38:17 AM  
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2022-12-03 7:40:45 AM  

Trik: Some by Democratic pressure and threats it sounds like.


Care to support that claim?
 
2022-12-03 7:43:43 AM  

Ghastly: FTFA: Free-speech crusader Elon Musk

That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".


No such thing as a "Nazi sympathizer". If someone sympathizes with Nazis, then they're a Nazi. Full stop.
 
2022-12-03 7:43:47 AM  
So I've now seen Hunter Biden's penis.

It's a fine penis. Most men have them.

I still have no idea what I'm supposed to be angry about?
 
Bf+
2022-12-03 7:44:36 AM  
If this doesn't get Hunter impeached, I don't know what will.
 
2022-12-03 7:44:44 AM  

Glitchwerks: Ghastly: That's not how you spell "Nazi sympathizer".

He is a Nazi.  Full stop.


Maybe if I would have finished the whole thread... *tiny fist and whatnot*
 
2022-12-03 7:49:08 AM  
So the richest smartest pettiest man in the world is upset that a private citizen's nude photos where not spread on the internet.  So upset that he has now spread these photos on the internet.

To bad the Republicans are taking the house.  This seems like a perfect opportunity for a federal revenge porn law.
 
2022-12-03 7:49:13 AM  

chitlenz: refudiate: Taibbi and Musk suffer under the idea that the First Amendment, rather than Twitter policy, governs what Twitter can remove.

Elon Musk has shown no ability to learn or be taught what free speech actually is (and thus, it's protection), he just throws shiat out there like "THIS WAS BLOCKED!!!" like child organ harvesting should be a thing people should stumble upon on his shiatty app.... but Taibbi should know better than this.   He was at one point a real journalist, but somehow fell down the Q rabbit hole during the whole Trump election, Snowden, Wikileaks era and went full Trump/Putin apologist.  It was kind of jarring his abrupt about face in defense of Trump on behalf of Russian interference (which... they have now publicly admitted while mocking us, so yeah).   So here we have pages and pages of nonsense followed by "the government wasn't involved as far as I see" tacked on the end.  That was the point right, we were all gonna find out that the CIA was protecting Joe Biden's campaign?   Honestly, I'm continuously amazed by how weak the Republican smears have been, it's almost like they've run out of ideas.


I first ran across Taibbi's work when he was living in Russia, and writing for something called the eXile. If the Russians have compromat on somebody, maybe it's him. Although given what made it on to the pages of the eXile already, I don't think a mere pee tape would do the trick.Taibbi was always a wannabe HST, more more to entertain than to maintain the highest possible journalistic standards. The Frontline documentary on the 2008 meltdown was a bit more informative than he was.
 
2022-12-03 7:51:24 AM  

anotherluser: chitlenz: refudiate: Taibbi and Musk suffer under the idea that the First Amendment, rather than Twitter policy, governs what Twitter can remove.

Elon Musk has shown no ability to learn or be taught what free speech actually is (and thus, it's protection), he just throws shiat out there like "THIS WAS BLOCKED!!!" like child organ harvesting should be a thing people should stumble upon on his shiatty app.... but Taibbi should know better than this.   He was at one point a real journalist, but somehow fell down the Q rabbit hole during the whole Trump election, Snowden, Wikileaks era and went full Trump/Putin apologist.  It was kind of jarring his abrupt about face in defense of Trump on behalf of Russian interference (which... they have now publicly admitted while mocking us, so yeah).   So here we have pages and pages of nonsense followed by "the government wasn't involved as far as I see" tacked on the end.  That was the point right, we were all gonna find out that the CIA was protecting Joe Biden's campaign?   Honestly, I'm continuously amazed by how weak the Republican smears have been, it's almost like they've run out of ideas.

I first ran across Taibbi's work when he was living in Russia, and writing for something called the eXile. If the Russians have compromat on somebody, maybe it's him. Although given what made it on to the pages of the eXile already, I don't think a mere pee tape would do the trick.Taibbi was always a wannabe HST, more working more to entertain than to maintain the highest possible journalistic standards. The Frontline documentary on the 2008 meltdown was a bit more informative than he was.


FTFM. fark. But preview? Who does that?
 
2022-12-03 7:57:56 AM  
Musk hasn't been following the Alex Jones saga I see. When these doxxed people start getting threats Musk better have his checkbook handy.
 
2022-12-03 8:05:22 AM  

chitlenz: Space Station Wagon: Repugs love looking at Hunter's dick. They have a bad case of penis envy.

It's kinda farking weird, NGL.  Like, James Woods is suing because they blocked him from posting some other guy's dick pic?   In other news, PSA folks:  Dick pics are never a good idea.  Nobody wants them, not even you once she puts it on IG.


I was asked for them. I'd spoken to her on the phone, so probably a real woman. Also so obviously deranged I decided that meeting in person would be a poor choice. So I decided to send them along just to see what would happen. No idea what she did with them. Never saw them again once I deleted them from my phone. If they made it onto a public forum of some sort, I guess I'm mildly amused.
 
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