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2022-12-02 7:47:13 AM  
Doesn't matter what the few smart Republicans have to say -- their brand-new "Freedom Caucus" in the state house is already introducing bills to repeal vote-by-mail, and their Orange God will always scream about how mail ballots are straight from the bowels of Soros to steal elections.
 
2022-12-02 8:11:03 AM  
They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.
 
2022-12-02 10:17:23 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.


Then how come they win so often?

They not stupid, they're evil. When they realize one particular brand of evil no longer benefits them, they look for another.
 
2022-12-02 11:36:09 AM  
Great. Now they can focus on making black people get an ID.
 
2022-12-02 11:39:59 AM  
"Republicans focus on Election Day turnout and Democrats started a month ahead of time," said former Rep. Lou Barletta, who ran unsuccessfully for governor in the GOP primary this year and also ran unsuccessfully for governor in 2018. "If we want to win, if Republicans want to win, they got to get better at" mail voting.

FTFT

The GOP's failure in the midterms in PA has as much to do with the quality of the candidates as it does with mail-in voting.

Of course the PA GOP is taking the wrong message from their ass-kicking.
 
2022-12-02 11:40:03 AM  
So what I'm hearing is that those feckless Democrats did something right in PA.  In fact, they did it so well that the Rs are going to emulate them.
 
2022-12-02 11:40:10 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Doesn't matter what the few smart Republicans have to say -- their brand-new "Freedom Caucus" in the state house is already introducing bills to repeal vote-by-mail, and their Orange God will always scream about how mail ballots are straight from the bowels of Soros to steal elections.


It's either that or pretend to support vote-by-mail while quietly working to sabotage the process and then come out at the end to say "See? Vote-by-mail doesn't work! Let's get rid of it!"
 
2022-12-02 11:41:22 AM  

Graffito: So what I'm hearing is that those feckless Democrats did something right in PA.  In fact, they did it so well that the Rs are going to emulate them.


But wait, I thought Dems lost elections.  This is a confusing narrative.
 
2022-12-02 11:42:36 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.


The ones in PA really seem to be.

The best they could come up with for the governor's race is Doug Mastriano?
 
2022-12-02 11:42:48 AM  
When faced with the choice of embracing mail in voting since it seemed to work for the Dems or doubling down on ruining mail in voting...I don't think anyone has any misconception about what avenue the GOP will take. Taking into account the fact that they're heinous pieces of human feces, of course.
 
2022-12-02 11:42:54 AM  
Making it harder for their elderly base to vote ISN'T a winning strategy? Huh...
 
2022-12-02 11:44:17 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Doesn't matter what the few smart Republicans have to say -- their brand-new "Freedom Caucus" in the state house is already introducing bills to repeal vote-by-mail, and their Orange God will always scream about how mail ballots are straight from the bowels of Soros to steal elections.


Dem controlled house and Gov. They can go pound sand.
 
2022-12-02 11:44:43 AM  
FTFA: GOP officials in the state are coming to the belief that it's better to work within the system...


Let me guess. They'll support mail in ballots, but craft legislation to force all ballots to go to one single processing center, severely underfunded, run by two people, a laundry list of things to check off for ballot verification, and if the ballot isn't counted by X date, then it gets tossed in the trash.

/it's their playbook for wrecking anything they don't like
 
2022-12-02 11:45:49 AM  
"There's no question in my mind that Republicans have to have a different mail-in strategy," said Andy Reilly, a Republican National Committeeman in Pennsylvania. "When one party votes for 30 days and one party votes for one, you're definitely going to lose."

Or you could try focusing on telling people on how you would govern to help people instead of focusing on winning elections for the only purpose of gathering power.

Just a thought. I know that having policy positions are passé, but sometimes the old tactics are the best.
 
2022-12-02 11:47:29 AM  

Mrtraveler01: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

The ones in PA really seem to be.

The best they could come up with for the governor's race is Doug Mastriano?


Doug has some really fervent supporter(s) though.

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2022-12-02 11:47:47 AM  
It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes /s

/hurrr
/durr
 
2022-12-02 11:48:05 AM  

Subtonic: Mrtraveler01: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

The ones in PA really seem to be.

The best they could come up with for the governor's race is Doug Mastriano?

Doug has some really fervent supporter(s) though.

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You didn't catch the Doug-mentum?!?!?!
 
2022-12-02 11:48:15 AM  
Look GOP, your God King already told you it's all rigged, so there's no point in voting. Just stay home and don't waste your time.
 
2022-12-02 11:54:00 AM  
In this year's gubernatorial race, Shapiro received more than 1 million votes by mail, according to Pennsylvania's Department of State. Mastriano only won 187,000. Even in the closer Senate race, Democrat John Fetterman collected 960,000 mail ballots, while Mehmet Oz took in just 234,000.

Wow, I knew the mail-in votes were heavily Democratic, but I'm kind of surprised how overwhelming it was.  Good luck Republicans convincing your conspiracy-steeped base to start using mail-in ballots.
 
2022-12-02 11:54:35 AM  

Mrtraveler01: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

The ones in PA really seem to be.

The best they could come up with for the governor's race is Doug Mastriano?


Last 2 governor races have been trump light losers. Unless they can get someone like tom corbet they don't have a chance.
 
2022-12-02 11:57:04 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

Then how come they win so often?

They not stupid, they're evil. When they realize one particular brand of evil no longer benefits them, they look for another.


They win so often because the state is heavily gerrymandered in their favor.  A clear indicator of that is a house and senate easily controlled by R's for more than a decade, but a D governor (Wolf for 2 terms and now Shapiro).  They can't gerrymander the result of a statewide vote.
 
2022-12-02 11:59:28 AM  
It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.
 
2022-12-02 12:01:53 PM  

Mrtraveler01: "Republicans focus on Election Day turnout and Democrats started a month ahead of time," said former Rep. Lou Barletta, who ran unsuccessfully for governor in the GOP primary this year and also ran unsuccessfully for governor in 2018. "If we want to win, if Republicans want to win, they got to get better at" mail voting.

FTFT

The GOP's failure in the midterms in PA has as much to do with the quality of the candidates as it does with mail-in voting.

Of course the PA GOP is taking the wrong message from their ass-kicking.


The thing is, if they got "better" at voting by mail, it's not like Democrats would pull an instant 180 on the process. For all their issues, D's are not hypocrites, by and large, and would not abandon something they believed in because Republicans took advantage of it.

Georgia had Saturday voting for the runoff in some (not all) counties - I'm damn sure that more than a handful of right wingers went out to vote on Saturday for Walker despite Democrats fighting for the right for them to do so.
 
2022-12-02 12:02:46 PM  

capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.


I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.
 
2022-12-02 12:04:10 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.


Especially since it would probably be another "entrepreneur" like Musk bankrolling it.

Or Mike the Pillow Election Guy.
 
2022-12-02 12:08:09 PM  
During the last election, the Republican governor of my state and Republican elections director of my county were both very vocal regarding the safety and security of absentee voting.

Seems like they only complain when it doesn't favor them.
 
2022-12-02 12:08:53 PM  
"When one party votes for 30 days and one party votes for one, you're definitely going to lose."

No farking shiat dumbass, now open your mind to how many of your party killed with covid being just as farking dumb.
 
2022-12-02 12:10:07 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.


Yeah, if it were open-source code and no profit motive for anyone anywhere in the chain of development (hourly wages aside), then it might turn out okay. Vote by MuskTM would be corrupted from its inception. Which would be the main draw for the GOP, of course.
 
2022-12-02 12:11:17 PM  

Subtonic: Mrtraveler01: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

The ones in PA really seem to be.

The best they could come up with for the governor's race is Doug Mastriano?

Doug has some really fervent supporter(s) though.

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That picture looks like it was taken about 1 minute before that old man dropped his dressy sweatpants and started waving his dick at people
 
2022-12-02 12:11:40 PM  

mcnguyen: In this year's gubernatorial race, Shapiro received more than 1 million votes by mail, according to Pennsylvania's Department of State. Mastriano only won 187,000. Even in the closer Senate race, Democrat John Fetterman collected 960,000 mail ballots, while Mehmet Oz took in just 234,000.

Wow, I knew the mail-in votes were heavily Democratic, but I'm kind of surprised how overwhelming it was.  Good luck Republicans convincing your conspiracy-steeped base to start using mail-in ballots.


Well when you keep shouting about how evil and cheating mail.in voting is, it is hardly surprising that your supporters wouldn't use it.
 
2022-12-02 12:14:00 PM  

NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.


You don't have to regionalize.
 
2022-12-02 12:15:54 PM  

Lochsteppe: Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.

Yeah, if it were open-source code and no profit motive for anyone anywhere in the chain of development (hourly wages aside), then it might turn out okay. Vote by MuskTM would be corrupted from its inception. Which would be the main draw for the GOP, of course.


Still not buying it. Imagine all the competing fake apps to convince people that they've already voted. Or "text this number to vote." No.
 
2022-12-02 12:16:42 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.


Obligatory.

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2022-12-02 12:17:45 PM  
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2022-12-02 12:27:00 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Lochsteppe: Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.

Yeah, if it were open-source code and no profit motive for anyone anywhere in the chain of development (hourly wages aside), then it might turn out okay. Vote by MuskTM would be corrupted from its inception. Which would be the main draw for the GOP, of course.

Still not buying it. Imagine all the competing fake apps to convince people that they've already voted. Or "text this number to vote." No.


Well, obviously the development process should include a sizable budget for PSAs admonishing people not to make fake competing apps to confuse voters.

I feel like that didn't need to be stated.
 
2022-12-02 12:29:39 PM  
Step 1: get everyone to vote by mail
Step 2: finish destroying the USPS
Step 3: create a de-facto poll tax, disenfranchising poor people who can't pay FedEx $30 to deliver their ballot
 
2022-12-02 12:30:24 PM  
Help us, Louis DeJoy. You're our only hope.
 
2022-12-02 12:32:29 PM  
Tune in next time when the headline will be.

"Republicans decide to work within the Constitution instead of soiling it."

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2022-12-02 12:52:09 PM  
Maybe we should... NOT do what the dumb-ass orange sh*tgibbon says?

But first, let's check with the dumb-ass orange sh*tgibbon.
 
2022-12-02 12:59:58 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Doesn't matter what the few smart Republicans have to say -- their brand-new "Freedom Caucus" in the state house is already introducing bills to repeal vote-by-mail, and their Orange God will always scream about how mail ballots are straight from the bowels of Soros to steal elections.


And can SOMEONE explain how the fark DeJoy is still the goddamn Postmaster General?!

Motherfarker should have faced charges for election tampering wirh his bullshiat

https://prospect.org/politics/continued-survival-of-louis-dejoy/
 
2022-12-02 1:00:57 PM  
"Democrats transformed the election landscape with their mail-in ballot schemes in many states - and Republicans must respond by decisively winning this battle," said Rep. Guy Reschenthaler (R-Pa.).

Those "Democrat mail-in ballot schemes" were also Republican schemes until their new orange god declared them to be evil. As the article notes, the same Republicans who passed those laws in PA regarding mail-in ballots are now trying to repeal them. These guys are always disingenuous assholes.
 
2022-12-02 1:08:32 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: NewportBarGuy: They truly are the dumbest motherf*ckers in the valley.

Then how come they win so often?

They not stupid, they're evil. When they realize one particular brand of evil no longer benefits them, they look for another.


The elected party officials are evil, and they prey on the stupid, vapid the uninformed and the desperate.  The Republican party uses roughly the EXACT recruitment tactics as the Taliban, ISIS, and every run-of-the-mill street gang.
 
2022-12-02 1:08:37 PM  
So the Democrats take five minutes to fill out their ballot and mail it in, and the MAGAts get in their cars on election day, hunt around for their polling location, have to park a quarter of a mile away, get into a three hour line outdoors in November, and finally give up and go home before voting. I fail to see a problem here.
 
2022-12-02 1:23:29 PM  

Lochsteppe: Eddie Hazel's E string: Lochsteppe: Eddie Hazel's E string: capn' fun: It's 2022. I can literally trade $1B in stocks (if I had that kind of scratch), get a mortgage or cash out equity on my property, buy a $100k vehicle and have it delivered to my front door, order certified copies of my birth certificate or diplomas, or complete an education from GED to PhD, all while sitting on a toilet with a smart phone. A toilet at Mt. Everest base camp. Voting should be as simple as an app. But noooooooooooooo-one party is still fighting tooth and nail against a system that has been in place since the Civil War. Because anything that makes voting easier snd more efficient means that they wouldn't be able to get an "R" candidate elected to an officer higher than dog catcher anywhere more populated than a Costco.

I'm all for secure voting by mail, but the bolded phrase simply begs for foul play.

No. Just no.

Yeah, if it were open-source code and no profit motive for anyone anywhere in the chain of development (hourly wages aside), then it might turn out okay. Vote by MuskTM would be corrupted from its inception. Which would be the main draw for the GOP, of course.

Still not buying it. Imagine all the competing fake apps to convince people that they've already voted. Or "text this number to vote." No.

Well, obviously the development process should include a sizable budget for PSAs admonishing people not to make fake competing apps to confuse voters.

I feel like that didn't need to be stated.


It's not a technology issue. The app the DoE rolled out for the loan forgiveness is excellent, and apps rolled-out  by other agencies work well.

Now, could it morph ito an unforced clusterfark? From funding, to whose brother's cousin's girlfriend's hairdresser's kid's "cyber" company would be tapped to develop it, to the NSA using it to access your mic and camera every time you take a dump, and so on-yeah, probably.
 
2022-12-02 1:24:15 PM  

Mrtraveler01: "Republicans focus on Election Day turnout and Democrats started a month ahead of time," said former Rep. Lou Barletta, who ran unsuccessfully for governor in the GOP primary this year and also ran unsuccessfully for governor in 2018. "If we want to win, if Republicans want to win, they got to get better at" mail voting.

FTFT

The GOP's failure in the midterms in PA has as much to do with the quality of the candidates as it does with mail-in voting.

Of course the PA GOP is taking the wrong message from their ass-kicking.


*Psst shut it....if they're going to learn the wrong lesson and that leads them to doing the right thing by not trying to destroy mail in voting I'm all for it.

I'm also for them not learning the right lesson on candidate quality.
 
2022-12-02 1:27:23 PM  

iToad: So the Democrats take five minutes to fill out their ballot and mail it in, and the MAGAts get in their cars on election day, hunt around for their polling location, have to park a quarter of a mile away, get into a three hour line outdoors in November, and finally give up and go home before voting. I fail to see a problem here.


Pretty big generalizations there. Don't forget that millions of us can walk to our polling locations too, and that many wards have no lines at all during much of the day.

I vote a straight Democratic Party ticket and am happy to vote in person. I just prefer the experience to mail.
 
2022-12-02 1:43:11 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: iToad: So the Democrats take five minutes to fill out their ballot and mail it in, and the MAGAts get in their cars on election day, hunt around for their polling location, have to park a quarter of a mile away, get into a three hour line outdoors in November, and finally give up and go home before voting. I fail to see a problem here.

Pretty big generalizations there. Don't forget that millions of us can walk to our polling locations too, and that many wards have no lines at all during much of the day.

I vote a straight Democratic Party ticket and am happy to vote in person. I just prefer the experience to mail.


Yeah, I now straight up vote against each and every Republican. However, I do it during early voting. I can walk into any polling place in Las Vegas, vote, and get out the door in under 15 minutes. (I can also vote for "None of the above candidates"). However, a lot of MAGAts do not believe in early voting either, for complicated reasons involving sinister voting machine algorithm conspiracies. So they all show up on election day. This past election day, the lines at some of the polling places were literally three hours long at a couple of locations. So for the Democrats, voting is simple and convenient. For the GQP, not so much. This is a good example of how belief in conspiracy theories makes your life harder than it should be.
 
2022-12-02 1:47:31 PM  
Can't wait for the "vote by mail because the democrat party doesn't want you to" ads in the next cycle.
 
2022-12-02 2:41:00 PM  
Almost like the smart people in the room told you this even though they were never going to vote for your side.

Dumbasses.
 
2022-12-02 2:58:05 PM  
You mean telling your voters not to vote using the most convenient method wasn't a good election strategy? Weird.
 
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