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(Onion AV Club)   Well, I would have picked numbers 2, 3, 4, 6, or 10 over number 1, but what do I know?   (avclub.com) divider line
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2022-12-01 10:36:31 PM  
And not 5 nor 8? Philistine.
 
2022-12-02 1:29:23 AM  
List fails with no MCU, Star Wars, or John Wick films included.
 
2022-12-02 1:37:20 AM  
No Fast and Furious entries? Basically a self fellating list for Boomer snobs.
 
2022-12-02 1:40:36 AM  
"...2001's Mulholland Dr...."

Inland Empire is the better movie. It covers the same themes of the facade of Hollywood, but in a more sophisticated way.
 
2022-12-02 1:43:12 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: "...2001's Mulholland Dr...."

Inland Empire is the better movie. It covers the same themes of the facade of Hollywood, but in a more sophisticated way.


Oh, and of course Twin Peaks the Return is better than both of them, but that's technically a TV show (although it's better thought of as a very long movie).
 
2022-12-02 1:59:32 AM  
No Strange Brew? Fark 'em.

/cu loo coo coo cu loo coo coo!
 
2022-12-02 2:47:40 AM  
These are the kinds of people that rate Empire as a cinematic masterpiece simply out of spite. The more boring, abstract, avant-garde, and hated it is by the general movie going public, the higher they'll rate it.
 
2022-12-02 4:09:42 AM  
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2022-12-02 4:13:06 AM  

Ravage: List fails with no MCU, Star Wars, or John Wick films included.


Never mind those, it's also missing Lawrence of Arabia, Chinatown, The Godfather Part II, and Touch of Evil.
 
2022-12-02 5:32:29 AM  
I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.
 
2022-12-02 6:08:32 AM  
I'm just here to say Portrait of a Lady on Fire is one of the best movies of the past 5 years. It's quiet slow cinematography, with some incredible acting.

Watch it over the weekend, while the bread rises and the soup simmers.
 
2022-12-02 6:14:36 AM  
The big list is missing "Young Frankenstein".
 
2022-12-02 6:19:10 AM  

fastfxr: I'm just here to say Portrait of a Lady on Fire is one of the best movies of the past 5 years. It's quiet slow cinematography, with some incredible acting.

Watch it over the weekend, while the bread rises and the soup simmers.


It's basically perfect. Everything it sets out to do, it does extremely well.
 
2022-12-02 6:30:41 AM  

Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.


There's nothing pretentious about City Lights, Some Like it Hot, or SIngin' in the Rain. I think the list is more a reflection that the people polled are not just American.

I think any list that includes those three plus Tokyo Story, In the Mood For Love, The Godfather, The Apartment, three Hitchcock, two Scorsese,and three Kubrick films is a pretty solid list of actually good movies.
 
2022-12-02 6:56:59 AM  
No mention of "Fletch" or "Road House".   into the shiatcan it goes ...
 
2022-12-02 7:22:41 AM  
First, we prep the chicken. Then we do all this cocaine.

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2022-12-02 8:44:00 AM  
Strangely missing...

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2022-12-02 8:58:23 AM  

fastfxr: I'm just here to say Portrait of a Lady on Fire is one of the best movies of the past 5 years. It's quiet slow cinematography, with some incredible acting.

Watch it over the weekend, while the bread rises and the soup simmers.


I don't really like soup. How necessary would you say that is to one's appreciation of the movie?
 
2022-12-02 9:20:20 AM  

fastfxr: I'm just here to say Portrait of a Lady on Fire is one of the best movies of the past 5 years. It's quiet slow cinematography, with some incredible acting.

Watch it over the weekend, while the bread rises and the soup simmers.


My vote is for Parasite, but I'll check that out.

Glad that The A/V Club summarized the list, because there's no way I'm reading through something that lists Mulholland Drive as an all-time great.
 
2022-12-02 12:11:00 PM  
CTRL-f Ishtar

Leaving most disappoint.
 
2022-12-02 12:43:51 PM  

JerseyTim: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

There's nothing pretentious about City Lights, Some Like it Hot, or SIngin' in the Rain. I think the list is more a reflection that the people polled are not just American.

I think any list that includes those three plus Tokyo Story, In the Mood For Love, The Godfather, The Apartment, three Hitchcock, two Scorsese,and three Kubrick films is a pretty solid list of actually good movies.


I think they're pretty balanced overall, and I like that there are two polls, one for directors and one for critics and other industry people.  And, like you say, from around the world.
 
2022-12-02 12:59:50 PM  

bababa: Ravage: List fails with no MCU, Star Wars, or John Wick films included.

Never mind those, it's also missing Lawrence of Arabia, Chinatown, The Godfather Part II, and Touch of Evil.


There are two lists; one by critics and one by directors.
 
2022-12-02 1:23:49 PM  

Stud Gerbil: No mention of "Fletch" or "Road House".   into the shiatcan it goes ...


Fletch Lives was the better movie in that franchise
 
2022-12-02 1:30:33 PM  
What?  No Plan 9 from Outer Space?  Maybe the list makers simply haven't seen it yet -- it would surely be in the top 5.
 
2022-12-02 1:34:59 PM  
Ooh, I've seen more than half of them!

I'm mildly disappointed that Parajanov's film The Color of Pomegranates isn't on this list. It is such a singularly fascinating work of film, told in these sort of living tableaux filled with meaningful symbolism, like the cinematic equivalent of Joseph Cornell's assemblage boxes.

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Really pleased to see Black Girl, Céline and Julie Go Boating, Daughters of the Dust, and Daisies on the list, though. All spectacular films that should be more widely known.
 
2022-12-02 1:43:46 PM  
Ironically, Imitation of Life is my least favorite of the Sirk melodramas. I adore All That Heaven Allows and while it might lack the punch of tackling racism that Life has, Sirk tackles class, gender, race, age, and even sexual orientation (in an extremely veiled way) in Heaven and does so with ravishing visual poetry.

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2022-12-02 1:59:31 PM  

austerity101: Ironically, Imitation of Life is my least favorite of the Sirk melodramas. I adore All That Heaven Allows and while it might lack the punch of tackling racism that Life has, Sirk tackles class, gender, race, age, and even sexual orientation (in an extremely veiled way) in Heaven and does so with ravishing visual poetry.

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I agree totally. All That Heaven Allows is a freaking masterpiece. Every shot is gorgeous and it's much a condemnation of the era it was made in as Imitation of Life is. Plus, Jane Wyman's kids are so crappy in it. I hate them so much. I love how much Wyman frets over her relationship with Hudson, who isn't some poor schlub. He owns his own small business, for pete's sake! And his friends and parties are so much better than her old ones.

I also like Written on the Wind better than Imitation of Life. It's so wonderfully pulpy.
 
2022-12-02 2:08:21 PM  

Billy Liar: JerseyTim: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

There's nothing pretentious about City Lights, Some Like it Hot, or SIngin' in the Rain. I think the list is more a reflection that the people polled are not just American.

I think any list that includes those three plus Tokyo Story, In the Mood For Love, The Godfather, The Apartment, three Hitchcock, two Scorsese,and three Kubrick films is a pretty solid list of actually good movies.

I think they're pretty balanced overall, and I like that there are two polls, one for directors and one for critics and other industry people.  And, like you say, from around the world.



I was pleasantly surprised.  Usually these lists are 90% Hollywood with a few token films from elsewhere to make it look like the rest of the world received fair consideration.

I still think that bias is in play at least a bit (it's reallyhard to do a fair list - I'm fairly sure Korea has more than one film worthy of being in the top 100, but Parasite is the one everyone's seen), but at least this isn't just someone throwing in a Kurasawa film so the list can pretend to be fair.
 
2022-12-02 2:08:40 PM  
Jeanne Dielman 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

will probably never see it
 
2022-12-02 2:16:48 PM  

JerseyTim: austerity101: Ironically, Imitation of Life is my least favorite of the Sirk melodramas. I adore All That Heaven Allows and while it might lack the punch of tackling racism that Life has, Sirk tackles class, gender, race, age, and even sexual orientation (in an extremely veiled way) in Heaven and does so with ravishing visual poetry.

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I agree totally. All That Heaven Allows is a freaking masterpiece. Every shot is gorgeous and it's much a condemnation of the era it was made in as Imitation of Life is. Plus, Jane Wyman's kids are so crappy in it. I hate them so much. I love how much Wyman frets over her relationship with Hudson, who isn't some poor schlub. He owns his own small business, for pete's sake! And his friends and parties are so much better than her old ones.

I also like Written on the Wind better than Imitation of Life. It's so wonderfully pulpy.


Pulpy? Pulpy??

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Oh.

The major thing I don't like about Wind is that Lauren Bacall's character isn't as intrepid and independent as I'd like her to be. But the film is so over the top that it almost doesn't matter.
 
2022-12-02 2:44:07 PM  

NetOwl: Billy Liar: JerseyTim: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

There's nothing pretentious about City Lights, Some Like it Hot, or SIngin' in the Rain. I think the list is more a reflection that the people polled are not just American.

I think any list that includes those three plus Tokyo Story, In the Mood For Love, The Godfather, The Apartment, three Hitchcock, two Scorsese,and three Kubrick films is a pretty solid list of actually good movies.

I think they're pretty balanced overall, and I like that there are two polls, one for directors and one for critics and other industry people.  And, like you say, from around the world.


I was pleasantly surprised.  Usually these lists are 90% Hollywood with a few token films from elsewhere to make it look like the rest of the world received fair consideration.

I still think that bias is in play at least a bit (it's reallyhard to do a fair list - I'm fairly sure Korea has more than one film worthy of being in the top 100, but Parasite is the one everyone's seen), but at least this isn't just someone throwing in a Kurasawa film so the list can pretend to be fair.


It is people that subscribe to the BFI Sights and Sounds magazine, so yeah it is a different group than usual and will get a lot of European films on it.

But the very idea of a "best films ever" list is complete BS and a fool's errand to start with.
 
2022-12-02 3:22:55 PM  

bababa: Ravage: List fails with no MCU, Star Wars, or John Wick films included.

Never mind those, it's also missing Lawrence of Arabia, Chinatown, The Godfather Part II, and Touch of Evil.


I agree with you, but picking just 100 films from over a century of filmmaking, there's always going to be weird, seemingly-glaring omissions. What we have is a pretty solid list of movies.

What surprised me is that there are only 3 Kubrick movies on the list and 2 of them are The Shining and Barry Lyndon. Don't get me wrong, I think those are great films and I'm particularly glad Lyndon has started getting more love in the past 20 years, but those two over Dr Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, Clockwork Orange, and even (arguably) Eyes Wide Shut is surprising.
 
2022-12-02 3:23:38 PM  

Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.


You're missing A LOT of great films then.
 
2022-12-02 3:59:04 PM  

phlegmjay: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

You're missing A LOT of great films then.


I've seen about 40-45 of each list (lot of overlap).  While it's "heretical", I saw a great many of them on VHS when video stores were purging them in favor of DVDs, and you could buy them for a dollar or two and watch them at your leisure.  Have since replaced a lot of them with DVDs as opportunity allows; a lot of libraries have auxiliary stores that sell donations for dirt cheap.  Got a few dozen Criterion titles from the local library store that are perfectly playable and most still had the "extras" - books, companion discs, and whatnot
 
2022-12-02 9:25:53 PM  

Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.


Just because you haven't seen it doesn't make it pretentious.
 
2022-12-02 9:29:04 PM  

austerity101: Ironically, Imitation of Life is my least favorite of the Sirk melodramas. I adore All That Heaven Allows and while it might lack the punch of tackling racism that Life has, Sirk tackles class, gender, race, age, and even sexual orientation (in an extremely veiled way) in Heaven and does so with ravishing visual poetry.

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I watch it every Christmas season. It's breathtakingly beautiful. Rock Hudson's house is my favorite house in all of movies, I think.
 
2022-12-02 10:22:45 PM  

phlegmjay: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

You're missing A LOT of great films then.


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2022-12-02 11:46:32 PM  

phlegmjay: bababa: Ravage: List fails with no MCU, Star Wars, or John Wick films included.

Never mind those, it's also missing Lawrence of Arabia, Chinatown, The Godfather Part II, and Touch of Evil.

I agree with you, but picking just 100 films from over a century of filmmaking, there's always going to be weird, seemingly-glaring omissions. What we have is a pretty solid list of movies.

What surprised me is that there are only 3 Kubrick movies on the list and 2 of them are The Shining and Barry Lyndon. Don't get me wrong, I think those are great films and I'm particularly glad Lyndon has started getting more love in the past 20 years, but those two over Dr Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, Clockwork Orange, and even (arguably) Eyes Wide Shut is surprising.


Dr Strangelove showed up on the Directors' List

(When you click into  the list, there's another link to the Directors' List)
 
2022-12-02 11:50:49 PM  

Excelsior: phlegmjay: Excelsior: I have seen exactly three of these (Metropolis, Blade Runner, 2001), and have ZERO interest in the rest.

By and large this seems more of a "yeet some pretentious crap at the wall and see what sticks" rather than actually good movies.

You're missing A LOT of great films then.

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No. Seriously, you're missing a lot. Besides the 3 you mention, I count at least 25 films (of the ones I've seen) that aren't particularly pretentious and are incredible films. And I count about another 25 that, yeah, I can see calling them pretentious, but they're still great. Those are just the films I've seen. By reputation, I know most of the others to probably be pretty good.

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand and can respect just not having art films be your thing. But many things on that list are not what you'd typically think of as art films (which isn't a statement of quality). Take Once Upon a Time in the West, which is on the list. It's a spaghetti western, and a great film. It's by Leone, the same director who made The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly and Fistful of Dollars.
 
2022-12-03 6:04:28 AM  
Oh my god, I'm already smelling the smugness coming from Belgium.

/Let a Belgian talk long, and they'll tell you Belgium invented everything, including the Internet and the inferiority complex.
 
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