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(NBC News)   Authorities say internet sleuths trying to solve University of Idaho murders are "extremely dangerous." Guy with the knife agrees   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2022-12-01 1:42:52 PM  
can you imagine when the internet becomes better at being detective than an actual detective?  They already highlighted the sentiment in the article on how real detectives feel.
 
2022-12-01 1:49:51 PM  
Fighting crime with WIE?
 
2022-12-01 2:15:10 PM  
By next week, I expect the cops to accuse The Internet of murdering four students in their sleep.
 
2022-12-01 2:37:21 PM  
I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.
 
2022-12-01 2:39:59 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.


It's amazing how in a surveillance society we're being tracked constantly for every conceivable reason, until murder happens and then it's all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2022-12-01 3:53:44 PM  
Wild, rampant speculation is just making MPD's, LCSO's, and ISP's jobs THAT much harder, because they also have to actively debunk all the damn lies surrounding this murder those farking armchair detectives keep spewing.
 
2022-12-01 3:55:04 PM  
At least it's not podcasters

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/podders?
//pod people?
 
2022-12-01 3:55:38 PM  
"With what police, with all types of training and all of the resources to help solve just about any type of crime, have at their fingertips, it's kind of hard to believe that anyone just banging around the internet is going to be able to solve the crime that we couldn't," Pete Yachmetz, a retired FBI special agent in Florida with three decades at the agency, said. "I just don't fathom it."

Cuz, you know, cops never get the wrong guy.

*eyeroll.gif
 
2022-12-01 3:56:29 PM  
The guy with the knife? I remember him...

Mack The Knife (original)
Youtube _QXJ3OXWaOY
 
2022-12-01 3:57:02 PM  
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2022-12-01 3:57:49 PM  
Like Republicans and voter fraud.
 
2022-12-01 3:58:46 PM  
The only tangible benefit those websites ever manage to contribute is matching Jane & John Does with missing persons.  Everything else, just no.
 
2022-12-01 3:59:00 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

It's amazing how in a surveillance society we're being tracked constantly for every conceivable reason, until murder happens and then it's all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Same with bigfoot and UFOs.
 
2022-12-01 3:59:13 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.


It could've easily been a woman.
 
2022-12-01 3:59:32 PM  
"There is speculation, without factual backing, stoking community fears and spreading false facts,"

So just another day on the internet.  They totally had the case cracked 5 minutes after it happened, but the stupid cops didn't listen.  That means we must abolish the police.
 
2022-12-01 4:00:10 PM  

kb7rky: Wild, rampant speculation is just making MPD's, LCSO's, and ISP's jobs THAT much harder, because they also have to actively debunk all the damn lies surrounding this murder those farking armchair detectives keep spewing.


Yup, this same problem happened after the Boston Marathon bombings. The Internet decided they knew who the second bomber was and started hounding after a completely innocent person.
 
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2022-12-01 4:01:17 PM  

blacknite: can you imagine when the internet becomes better at being detective than an actual detective?  They already highlighted the sentiment in the article on how real detectives feel.


Often times, the more eyes on a problem, the greater the odds that someone will make the critical insight that leads toward a solution, particularly for particularly large or difficult problems or problems whose solutions are thoroughly concealed.

If those additional eyes on a problem are not beholden to a lead investigator's avenues of investigation, ie, they're not compelled go follow-up only specific leads that the principal person orders, then they may be less likely to fall into the biases of that lead investigator.  Being free to pursue whatever avenues one wishes could sometimes find insight into an investigation that the person in charge of that investigation isn't interested in.
 
2022-12-01 4:02:46 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.


Why do you assume only 1 perp?  Wonderland Murders (4 dead) were likely perpetrated by 3 people.
 
2022-12-01 4:03:01 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.


He could have washed up in the house or had a change of clothes and wet wipes with him and changed somewhere in the woods and burn them. Or he wore a color that could hide the blood.
 
2022-12-01 4:03:28 PM  

kmgenesis23: "With what police, with all types of training and all of the resources to help solve just about any type of crime, have at their fingertips, it's kind of hard to believe that anyone just banging around the internet is going to be able to solve the crime that we couldn't," Pete Yachmetz, a retired FBI special agent in Florida with three decades at the agency, said. "I just don't fathom it."

Cuz, you know, cops never get the wrong guy.

*eyeroll.gif


Hey, they have 2 yr degrees from their local community college....please let the experts handle it.
 
2022-12-01 4:05:43 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: By next week, I expect the cops to accuse The Internet of murdering four students in their sleep.


I'll do one better.

The perp is a cop and the authorities know it.
 
2022-12-01 4:06:55 PM  

Evil Mackerel: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

It could've easily been a woman.


Anyone see Congresswoman Webfoot?
 
2022-12-01 4:07:39 PM  
1) I know I won't change it, and it's integral to this article, but I'm tired of news stories giving me a scoreboard of social media. I don't care how many members are in a Facebook group or how many times something has been retweeted or liked. Those aren't pertinent facts.
2) This reminds me of how mob mentality ruined Steve Bartman's life.
 
2022-12-01 4:08:09 PM  

blacknite: can you imagine when the internet becomes better at being detective than an actual detective?  They already highlighted the sentiment in the article on how real detectives feel.


Reddit killed a few people playing this game.

More than once.
 
2022-12-01 4:09:31 PM  
asmodeus224:

Hey, they have 2 yr degrees from their local community college....please let the experts handle it.

If you really think your first year beat cop in Idaho is the person running the case on this......

Time to get outside.
 
2022-12-01 4:10:21 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: At least it's not podcasters

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/podders?
//pod people?


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2022-12-01 4:10:44 PM  
I'm barely aware of where Idaho is, not about to go sleuthing over the internet where there's hardly any people.
 
2022-12-01 4:11:40 PM  

DRTFA: 1) I know I won't change it, and it's integral to this article, but I'm tired of news stories giving me a scoreboard of social media. I don't care how many members are in a Facebook group or how many times something has been retweeted or liked. Those aren't pertinent facts.
2) This reminds me of how mob mentality ruined Steve Bartman's life.


Bartman should have let the player for the team he wanted to win have a shot at catching the ball.  My dad taught me that the first game I ever went to.
 
2022-12-01 4:13:02 PM  

Jeebus Saves: DRTFA: 1) I know I won't change it, and it's integral to this article, but I'm tired of news stories giving me a scoreboard of social media. I don't care how many members are in a Facebook group or how many times something has been retweeted or liked. Those aren't pertinent facts.
2) This reminds me of how mob mentality ruined Steve Bartman's life.

Bartman should have let the player for the team he wanted to win have a shot at catching the ball.  My dad taught me that the first game I ever went to.


I have very mixed feelings on Bartman. The dude absolutely shouldn't have got the shiat he did, but also, if you are sitting in those seats, you know better.
 
2022-12-01 4:13:35 PM  

blacknite: can you imagine when the internet becomes better at being detective than an actual detective?  They already highlighted the sentiment in the article on how real detectives feel.


What could go wrong?  Look at journalism.
 
2022-12-01 4:13:52 PM  

LineNoise: asmodeus224:

Hey, they have 2 yr degrees from their local community college....please let the experts handle it.

If you really think your first year beat cop in Idaho is the person running the case on this......

Time to get outside.


Well that makes the incompetence even worse!
 
2022-12-01 4:14:51 PM  

Evil Mackerel: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

It could've easily been a woman.


Could've been, but statistically it probably wasn't.
 
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2022-12-01 4:14:56 PM  

alice_600: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

He could have washed up in the house or had a change of clothes and wet wipes with him and changed somewhere in the woods and burn them. Or he wore a color that could hide the blood.


Ah yes, the goth approach.
 
2022-12-01 4:15:57 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: By next week, I expect the cops to accuse The Internet of murdering four students in their sleep.


You mean Murder McMurderface?
 
2022-12-01 4:17:15 PM  

Misch: You mean Murder McMurderface?


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2022-12-01 4:18:20 PM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: Could've been, but statistically it probably wasn't.


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2022-12-01 4:18:22 PM  

Misch: Squid_for_Brains: By next week, I expect the cops to accuse The Internet of murdering four students in their sleep.

You mean Murder McMurderface?


Lets just take an internet poll as to who is guilty. Then we can take another as to their penalty. Not on twitter obviously, but lets be democratic in our mob justice, because then we can all pat ourselves on the back.

Why involve investigations by professionals, an expansive criminal justice system, due process, and all that stuff that slows stuff down.
 
2022-12-01 4:19:31 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.


I am betting they all know to Nazi a thing.
 
2022-12-01 4:20:08 PM  
"It's extremely dangerous," Wandt said. "There's a Wild, Wild West aspect to all of this."

It's Idaho.  It is the Wild West.
 
2022-12-01 4:21:38 PM  
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2022-12-01 4:22:14 PM  
A lot like the "don't fark with cats" documentary. I could not agree more with the people who went after that little simp. But the Canadian police were pretty clear they had it under control.

That was a horrible video that I could not watch.
 
2022-12-01 4:22:30 PM  

Evil Mackerel: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

It could've easily been a woman.


Just not probable, Imma gonna predict white incel meth head. Takes alot of energy to stab 4 people.
 
2022-12-01 4:22:55 PM  
Interior (day time)
A phone on a cluttered desk rings

Detective: Hello? You've reached the Armchair Detective Agency. Can I help you?
Caller: yeah, hi, I need you to solve a murder.
Detective: Hang on, while I power up my PC and connect to the Internet.
 
2022-12-01 4:22:59 PM  
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2022-12-01 4:23:10 PM  

LineNoise: Jeebus Saves: DRTFA: 1) I know I won't change it, and it's integral to this article, but I'm tired of news stories giving me a scoreboard of social media. I don't care how many members are in a Facebook group or how many times something has been retweeted or liked. Those aren't pertinent facts.
2) This reminds me of how mob mentality ruined Steve Bartman's life.

Bartman should have let the player for the team he wanted to win have a shot at catching the ball.  My dad taught me that the first game I ever went to.

I have very mixed feelings on Bartman. The dude absolutely shouldn't have got the shiat he did, but also, if you are sitting in those seats, you know better.


The fact that it lasted more than a day was pretty stupid.  It happened, learn from it, and move on.  I still don't think the guy has left his house.
 
2022-12-01 4:23:18 PM  

alice_600: NewportBarGuy: I'm more curious how no one saw a guy, presumably covered in blood walking away. No ring doorbell, no CCTV, no nosy neighbor looking out the window... nothing.

He could have washed up in the house or had a change of clothes and wet wipes with him and changed somewhere in the woods and burn them. Or he wore a color that could hide the blood.


They might have been killed by the Red Dragon.
 
2022-12-01 4:24:45 PM  
I both agree and disagree.  There is a place for the amateur sleuths, but investigating crime is only one part trying to figure out who did it.  The other part is building a case against a suspect, preferably the right suspect, that puts him in prison.  Admittingly, cops haven't been as great at that job as we would have liked, but as a general rule, when the public decides to get involved in policing themselves, the public does a much worse job.  

That said, there is certainly a place for those who want to help.  It probably isn't going to be glamorous, the meaningful stuff is never glamorous, but it could be as simple as volunteering to answer phones at a tip hotline, though you need to screen to make sure the person taking down the tips isn't involved themselves, to putting up posters, and checking on neighbors to make sure they are okay, or haven't experienced anything troubling.

What you don't need them doing is getting in the way of the investigation, and putting at risk a successful prosecution once the villain is caught.
 
2022-12-01 4:24:53 PM  

Jeebus Saves: The fact that it lasted more than a day was pretty stupid.  It happened, learn from it, and move on.  I still don't think the guy has left his house.


No, they pretty much threw a parade for the dude when they finally won to say "I'm sorry"

But its Boston, it goes with the territory.
 
2022-12-01 4:26:50 PM  
Colonel Knife, in the mustard, with the kitchen.
Gotta think outside the box.
 
2022-12-01 4:27:09 PM  
"With what police, with all types of training and all of the resources to help solve just about any type of crime, have at their fingertips, it's kind of hard to believe that anyone just banging around the internet is going to be able to solve the crime that we couldn't," Pete Yachmetz, a retired FBI special agent in Florida with three decades at the agency, said. "I just don't fathom it."

The same FBI that allowed the mob to grow and spread while they were dicking around persecuting civil rights leaders. The same FBI that has done jack and sh*t to stop white supremacist terrorism. The same FBI that's has fascist sympathizers in its ranks right now.
 
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