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(ESPN)   No doctoring will save Gaylord Perry this time   (espn.com) divider line
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2022-12-01 10:27:40 AM  
Yesterday John Hadl, today Gaylord Perry. Who is next to go in the "Athletes of my childhood who looked older than my Grandfather" category?
 
2022-12-01 10:42:17 AM  
Whipper-snappers may not be aware, but Gaylord was pretty damn great, although a somewhat later bloomer. Between 1967 and 1975, he averaged 315 IP, 19 wins (for some rather bad teams) and 23 complete games. These days, if a guy throws 200 innings and notches three complete games, he's labelled a "horse."
 
2022-12-01 10:52:59 AM  
I used to giggle when i saw his baseball cards.
 
2022-12-01 10:55:09 AM  
Actually, the Giants averaged 90 wins between '67 and '71, so they were at least above water. The Cleveland teams averaged only 75 wins between '72 and '75; so just south of mediocre. My overall point remains that Perry was a top shelf hurler for a long time.
 
2022-12-01 10:56:42 AM  
No doctoring will save Gaylord Perry this time


He knuckled under.
 
2022-12-01 11:11:21 AM  
He was from a time when pitchers were expected to do much more than they do now, and names parents gave their kids are sometimes now regrettable.

Truly one of the greats, of my lifetime at least.  RIP Gaylord.
 
2022-12-01 11:17:27 AM  
The ESPN article left out the best story about him.  Perry was taking batting practice one day in 1964 and hit a few balls over the wall.  Some of his teammates wondered if he could ever hit one in a game, and Perry's manager Alvin Dark laughed and said "there'll be a man on the moon before he hits one."

Five years later, Perry still hasn't hit one.  On July 20, he's pitching for the Giants against the Dodgers when the PA announcer relays the news that Apollo 11 has safely landed on the moon.  30 minutes later Perry comes up to bat....

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/gaylord-perry-hits-home-run-just-minutes-after-neil-armstrong-moon-landing-c2433
 
2022-12-01 11:23:43 AM  

BigMax: Yesterday John Hadl, today Gaylord Perry. Who is next to go in the "Athletes of my childhood who looked older than my Grandfather" category?


Craig Morton?
 
2022-12-01 11:26:56 AM  
The psychology of his mannerisms is legendary. Hitters were already second guessing themselves prior to stepping in the box and then this...


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Pitched for 22 yrs - 13 times won more 15 or more games including 10 yrs in a row.

Started 690 games - avg 31 start per year - 303 complete games - almost 14 CG per yr avg

Here is a comparison with Nolan Ryan:

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2022-12-01 11:27:03 AM  

BigMax: Yesterday John Hadl, today Gaylord Perry. Who is next to go in the "Athletes of my childhood who looked older than my Grandfather" category?


Oh shiat.  I didn't know about Hadl.  Dude could hurl that pigskin.

Rest in Peace, old sports dudes.
 
2022-12-01 11:29:02 AM  
I was told cheating was bad for baseball and all players who cheated should be cast aside and swept under the rug

oh wait some cheating is ok, especially if you're a nice guy
 
2022-12-01 11:43:20 AM  
RIP. I was there for his 300th win.

He looked like an old man to me, and... actually, he still looks like an old man to me. He was 43 at the time. I can't believe I'm nine years older than this. I still have mostly dark hair and mostly non-leathery skin. Granted, my job does not entail spending hours at a time out in the sun.

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2022-12-01 11:49:51 AM  
On the list of "Players I am glad I got to see play live" he is #2, right behind Rickey Henderson.

There ain't never gonna be another one like him.
 
2022-12-01 12:20:38 PM  
At 44, that guy already looked 83.

RIP
 
2022-12-01 12:27:26 PM  
Gaylord was the last of the seven native North Carolinians inducted into Cooperstown who was still alive.  Jim won a Cy Young, but never had the career his brother did.

Sadly, they haven't spoken much in the last two decades.  One of my co-workers used to go hunting with them, but there was a bit of a falling out when Gaylord tried to create a peanut farm out in Martin County (near where he grew up in Williamston).  Jim told him the land was terrible for growing peanuts and he was going to lose a lot throwing good money after bad.  Gaylord didn't want to hear it, and never wanted to admit Jim was right.
 
2022-12-01 12:53:58 PM  

ElwoodCuse: I was told cheating was bad for baseball and all players who cheated should be cast aside and swept under the rug

oh wait some cheating is ok, especially if you're a nice guy


To steal a comment from Reddit that I totally agree with... because there's some gamesmanship to cheating in-game. The other team can call you out. Catch you in the act. Their perception is rewarded.

If it's off-field like steroids or electronic cheating. There's nothing to be done by your opponent.
 
2022-12-01 1:01:08 PM  
Gaylord threw the spitter but everybody knew he did so they were looking for it.
 
2022-12-01 1:03:32 PM  

runwiz: Gaylord threw the spitter but everybody knew he did so they were looking for it.


He was a guest when our museum opened in 2004.  One of our patrons took him out to eat, and after several drinks he used a menu/placemat to explain how the spitball worked.

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2022-12-01 1:19:32 PM  

Rent Party: On the list of "Players I am glad I got to see play live" he is #2, right behind Rickey Henderson.

There ain't never gonna be another one like him.


right there with ya, but I'd add George Brett and Rocky Colavito.   I was too young to remember, but my dad mentioned that we saw Ted farking Williams several times when the BoSox came to Cleveland.   I must've been two or three at the time.
 
2022-12-01 1:19:50 PM  
Swear to God, I thought the man was already dead. Oh well.

Rest In Peace.
 
2022-12-01 1:22:43 PM  

ElwoodCuse: I was told cheating was bad for baseball and all players who cheated should be cast aside and swept under the rug

oh wait some cheating is ok, especially if you're a nice guy


That's a different kind of cheating. Cheating on the field is way different than cheating in a laboratory. Cheating on the field is just playing the game within the game. Cheating with doctors is some next-level cheating.

If an umpire can throw you out of the game for it, that's legitimate cheating. Even Perry got run once. Can you imagine the poopsquall that would have erupted if an umpire- no, if Joe West- had tossed Barry Bonds out of a game as soon as the first pitch was thrown for "obviously cheating"?
 
2022-12-01 1:44:37 PM  
I watched him pitch when he was with the Indians....sublime.
 
2022-12-01 2:02:13 PM  
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2022-12-01 2:20:52 PM  
I recall listening to a Brewers game once when Perry was pitching against them. Bob Uecker started laughing after a pitch. He said, "That was a spitter if I ever saw one. Folks, that pitch broke like it rolled off a table."
 
2022-12-01 2:24:25 PM  

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One of the best parts of that movie was Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle pitch names.  I distinctly remember "KY ball" being one.
 
2022-12-01 3:23:27 PM  
I know I've told this story on Fark before but this is one of my favorite Gaylord Perry stories.  Towards the twilight of his career Perry pitched for the Seattle Mariners.  Someone hit a grounder to shortstop Spike Owens, Owens fields the ball and throws to first...and misses wildly, like 7 rows up into the stands wild.  Later on Gaylord sidled up to Spike and says "ya gotsta throw it on the dry side"  RIP
 
2022-12-01 3:48:35 PM  
ESPN Sportscenter commercial - Gaylord Perry and Vaseline
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2022-12-01 4:23:36 PM  
I just passed his statue earlier, I was surprised there's no flowers out but it's pouring and windy here.
 
2022-12-01 5:26:49 PM  

yellowjester: I watched him pitch when he was with the Indians....sublime.


He won 70 games in 3+ seasons with a team that never won 80 games while he was there.  Only Lefty Carlton was more dominant.
 
2022-12-01 6:08:28 PM  
RIP

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2022-12-01 6:49:10 PM  
RIP. Gaylord and Catfish, 2 of my NC heroes.
 
2022-12-02 4:50:15 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Rent Party: On the list of "Players I am glad I got to see play live" he is #2, right behind Rickey Henderson.

There ain't never gonna be another one like him.

right there with ya, but I'd add George Brett and Rocky Colavito.   I was too young to remember, but my dad mentioned that we saw Ted farking Williams several times when the BoSox came to Cleveland.   I must've been two or three at the time.


I think you and I could put together a pretty good list.   I got to see Brett play too, after he moved to 1st.
 
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