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(AP News)   Who's opposed to sick leave for railroad workers? "The House passed the sick leave measure, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage are slim in the evenly divided Senate"   (apnews.com) divider line
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2022-12-01 3:12:17 AM  
Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.
 
2022-12-01 3:16:09 AM  
fark the workers.  Someone send whidbey and james over to explain how democrats, who failed to protect abortion and marriage equality while they had both houses and the presidency, are better than republicans.  At least republicans are honest.
 
2022-12-01 3:17:17 AM  

Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.


Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.
 
2022-12-01 3:22:27 AM  

olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.


Oh cool, it's good for campaigning.

Except I want the laborers to have, you know, time to see their doctors or families.

But that campaign boost is good, too, I guess.

...
 
2022-12-01 3:24:00 AM  

Testiclaw: olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.

Oh cool, it's good for campaigning.

Except I want the laborers to have, you know, time to see their doctors or families.

But that campaign boost is good, too, I guess.

...

Yup, fark everyone except those running for reelection, those who could be voted out of office are the real americans who need help
 
2022-12-01 3:29:18 AM  
How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.
 
2022-12-01 3:32:27 AM  

Stud Gerbil: How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.


The New Labor Wars will be fought with a much more heavily-armed group of workers.

It will be important to distribute a pamphlet of America's labor history, so everyone knows just how much mercy those who support the robber barons should receive.
 
2022-12-01 3:33:53 AM  

bigdanc: Testiclaw: olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.

Oh cool, it's good for campaigning.

Except I want the laborers to have, you know, time to see their doctors or families.

But that campaign boost is good, too, I guess.

...
Yup, fark everyone except those running for reelection, those who could be voted out of office are the real americans who need help


See you understand how congress works.
 
2022-12-01 3:47:56 AM  
The intervention was particularly difficult for Democratic lawmakers who have traditionally sought to align themselves with the politically powerful labor unions

... pro-union Democrats?

Wow, that time portal allowing people from farking 1979 to post on the internet in 2022 sure is a marvel of modern technology.  Nice of them to share with us some ancient lore of long-lost days of yore and things that essentially haven't happened in farking living memory, though: thanks for the history lesson, guys, good luck with that south rising again thing or whatever.

Oh, and fair warning: if y'all have any investments in US Steel you should probably get your money out in the next year or three.  Y'know, speaking of how carefully Democrats protect union interests and all.
 
2022-12-01 3:50:15 AM  
we just need to bipartisan harder
 
2022-12-01 3:52:32 AM  

Stud Gerbil: How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.


Like Amazon is currently doing?
 
2022-12-01 4:03:04 AM  

bigdanc: fark the workers.  Someone send whidbey and james over to explain how democrats, who failed to protect abortion and marriage equality while they had both houses and the presidency, are better than republicans.  At least republicans are honest.


Honest? Did you seriously say that Republicans are honest?

Just because they're overtly evil, that doesn't make them at all honest. The constant lies and distortions should have clued you into that.
 
2022-12-01 4:03:22 AM  
This headline transcends bait.

It's a barrel of chum.
 
2022-12-01 4:22:39 AM  

Testiclaw: Stud Gerbil: How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.

The New Labor Wars will be fought with a much more heavily-armed group of workers.

It will be important to distribute a pamphlet of America's labor history, so everyone knows just how much mercy those who support the robber barons should receive.


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2022-12-01 4:25:35 AM  
Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."
 
2022-12-01 4:26:17 AM  

olorin604: bigdanc: Testiclaw: olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.

Oh cool, it's good for campaigning.

Except I want the laborers to have, you know, time to see their doctors or families.

But that campaign boost is good, too, I guess.

...
Yup, fark everyone except those running for reelection, those who could be voted out of office are the real americans who need help

See you understand how congress works.


I smarted both your posts, I realize my emphatic agreement may look like criticism.
 
2022-12-01 4:26:21 AM  
Headline versus article.

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2022-12-01 4:28:42 AM  

wademh: Headline versus article.

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Two bills.

"The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate."
 
2022-12-01 4:30:25 AM  

wademh: Headline versus article.

[Fark user image image 850x64]


That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.
 
2022-12-01 4:32:18 AM  

misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."


I have pulled the lever for democrats every election since 2004, never again.  I will never vote for a republican either, but forget these guys.

The abortion rights kill me, but I'm a union worker who has thrown his life away on 6 day work weeks for 6 of the last 10 years because my employer keeps on the - for the greater good - messaging.  D's are just as complicit in ruining my life as R's.  I'm done, son.  All of my extra energy is going in to working with homeless people from now on.
 
2022-12-01 4:33:17 AM  
rr workers have the worst union, apparently. they could shut down earth in a few days if they wildcat, which they should. their conditions are unconscionable.
 
2022-12-01 4:36:09 AM  

misanthropicsob: Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.


On the plus side, this is an excellent case study for proof that the Overton Window has shifted to the right, when Biden is taking the same actions that Ronald Farking Regan took.

/workers should strike anyway and dare the railroads to hire armed union-busters to force them back to work.
//Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia
 
2022-12-01 4:36:22 AM  

bigdanc: misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."

I have pulled the lever for democrats every election since 2004, never again.  I will never vote for a republican either, but forget these guys.

The abortion rights kill me, but I'm a union worker who has thrown his life away on 6 day work weeks for 6 of the last 10 years because my employer keeps on the - for the greater good - messaging.  D's are just as complicit in ruining my life as R's.  I'm done, son.  All of my extra energy is going in to working with homeless people from now on.


My uncle worked on the railroads his whole life. He had been a dyed in the wool Democrat until the mid-2000s when he started grumbling that "they're all crooks."

He was a Trump voter who hated Trump and called him a crook too. He just wanted change in the system.

Given the Democrats' actions this week, it's not hard to argue with him, but I tried bringing him over to the third party so that he wouldn't be voting for TFG.
 
2022-12-01 4:36:57 AM  

FightDirector: misanthropicsob: Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

On the plus side, this is an excellent case study for proof that the Overton Window has shifted to the right, when Biden is taking the same actions that Ronald Farking Regan took.

/workers should strike anyway and dare the railroads to hire armed union-busters to force them back to work.
//Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia


but old dusty white folks tell me that we've moved lightyears to the left
 
2022-12-01 4:41:55 AM  

FightDirector: misanthropicsob: Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

On the plus side, this is an excellent case study for proof that the Overton Window has shifted to the right, when Biden is taking the same actions that Ronald Farking Regan took.

/workers should strike anyway and dare the railroads to hire armed union-busters to force them back to work.
//Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia


One doesn't even need to go back to the 1920s. Harlan County USA is an essential documentary on the war over union and labor rights. That battle took place in 1973.

Harlan County USA Official Trailer - HD
Youtube 6PfaE4R4eA4


It's grotesque that the Democratic Party has been taking sides against unions for 25 years now.
 
2022-12-01 4:44:48 AM  

misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."


I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.
 
2022-12-01 4:45:57 AM  

bigdanc: fark the workers.  Someone send whidbey and james over to explain how democrats, who failed to protect abortion and marriage equality while they had both houses and the presidency, are better than republicans.  At least republicans are honest.


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This is what happens, Larry, when the mods sleep.
 
2022-12-01 4:51:08 AM  

Stud Gerbil: How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.


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Such a beautiful place, and such a horrific event.
I'm one of those people that is obsessed with learning about roadside monuments, and just not driving by them at 85 mph.
I saw this near Pueblo.
 
2022-12-01 4:53:46 AM  

MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.


That's per month, right?
 
2022-12-01 4:54:16 AM  

Maud Dib: Stud Gerbil: How about we just hire Pinkerton men to break up the unions.  Problem solved ... again.

[Fark user image image 425x318]Such a beautiful place, and such a horrific event.
I'm one of those people that is obsessed with learning about roadside monuments, and just not driving by them at 85 mph.
I saw this near Pueblo.


Should develop an app for that.
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2022-12-01 4:58:17 AM  

olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.


And shiat is why Campaign season is never over.
 
2022-12-01 4:58:40 AM  

misanthropicsob: wademh: Headline versus article.

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That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.


Yes, I misread (didn't finish reading) things. But you're being deceptive.
8 of 12 unions accepted the proposal. 4 did not. The writing is also confused. It's about 7 additional sick leave days, it isn't like they don't have any.

I've known a few long haul train engineers. It's a rough job and it takes a heavy toll on individuals and families. On the same hand, it's also a dream job for many who simply grew up with a passion for trains. I confess that I do not know enough to put forward a judgement about the 8 unions who accepted the proposal versus the 4 who rejected it.
 
2022-12-01 5:02:08 AM  

wademh: misanthropicsob: wademh: Headline versus article.

[Fark user image image 850x64]

That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.

Yes, I misread (didn't finish reading) things. But you're being deceptive.
8 of 12 unions accepted the proposal. 4 did not. The writing is also confused. It's about 7 additional sick leave days, it isn't like they don't have any.

I've known a few long haul train engineers. It's a rough job and it takes a heavy toll on individuals and families. On the same hand, it's also a dream job for many who simply grew up with a passion for trains. I confess that I do not know enough to put forward a judgement about the 8 unions who accepted the proposal versus the 4 who rejected it.


Those four unions represent a majority of the rail workers.

They do not currently have true time off.

They have personal time off, PTO, which is unpaid, but they're on call.  And, if they schedule a day off, get called in, and don't come in, they lose points which can get them fired.

It often takes weeks of working without a day off to remake points.

What they asked for was for their PTO to not be on call, and not be punished for not coming in on days off.

Have you tried to read anything about this before spouting off in here?
 
2022-12-01 5:02:16 AM  

bigdanc: fark the workers.  Someone send whidbey and james over to explain how democrats, who failed to protect abortion and marriage equality while they had both houses and the presidency, are better than republicans.  At least republicans are honest.


republicans are honest, at being christofascist, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, traitorous assholes bent on ruining the country.
 
2022-12-01 5:07:33 AM  

Ishkur: MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.

That's per month, right?


Bow to your god.
It's why I have you tagged from years ago.
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2022-12-01 5:09:53 AM  

MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.


Well obviously.  Everyone knows that Republicans are never going to support trains rights.

/if it weren't for poor taste I'd have no taste at all
 
2022-12-01 5:10:13 AM  

Testiclaw: wademh: misanthropicsob: wademh: Headline versus article.

[Fark user image image 850x64]

That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.

Yes, I misread (didn't finish reading) things. But you're being deceptive.
8 of 12 unions accepted the proposal. 4 did not. The writing is also confused. It's about 7 additional sick leave days, it isn't like they don't have any.

I've known a few long haul train engineers. It's a rough job and it takes a heavy toll on individuals and families. On the same hand, it's also a dream job for many who simply grew up with a passion for trains. I confess that I do not know enough to put forward a judgement about the 8 unions who accepted the proposal versus the 4 who rejected it.

Those four unions represent a majority of the rail workers.

They do not currently have true time off.

They have personal time off, PTO, which is unpaid, but they're on call.  And, if they schedule a day off, get called in, and don't come in, they lose points which can get them fired.

It often takes weeks of working without a day off to remake points.

What they asked for was for their PTO to not be on call, and not be punished for not coming in on days off.

Have you tried to read anything about this before spouting off in here?


In this case, no. I'm not well informed. I said as much.
 
2022-12-01 5:11:45 AM  

wademh: misanthropicsob: wademh: Headline versus article.

[Fark user image image 850x64]

That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.

Yes, I misread (didn't finish reading) things. But you're being deceptive.
8 of 12 unions accepted the proposal. 4 did not.


The 4 unions that rejected the contract represent 55% of the workers.
 
2022-12-01 5:12:03 AM  

wademh: In this case, no. I'm not well informed. I said as much.


Yeah...after you came in and made two posts full of misinformation and outright lies.

So maybe, if you're not well informed (which is being pretty farking charitable for the trash and drivel you dropped in this thread with such confidence), don't post stupid things like you did?

Farking idiot.
 
2022-12-01 5:12:30 AM  

olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.


It's not on Dems to make it easier for Republicans to go the wrong thing. It's on Dems to give them the opportunity to do the right thing.
 
2022-12-01 5:14:01 AM  

wademh: Testiclaw: Have you tried to read anything about this before spouting off in here?

In this case, no. I'm not well informed. I said as much.


You should stop calling other people deceptive if you're going to speak authoritatively on topics which you haven't read up on.
 
2022-12-01 5:14:47 AM  

Ishkur: MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.

That's per month, right?


In my job, I have accumulated about 1200 hours sick leave over the years. I'll only use it if I need to.

Get the "need to" part? It's significant.
 
2022-12-01 5:21:13 AM  

MrBallou: Ishkur: MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.

That's per month, right?

In my job, I have accumulated about 1200 hours sick leave over the years. I'll only use it if I need to.

Get the "need to" part? It's significant.


Mental health days so you don't accelerate out of the corner like an Andretti piloting 200,000 tons of steel, people, and goods in a heavy urban center I would consider necessary,
 
2022-12-01 5:22:39 AM  

MrBallou: misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."

I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.


Democrats could have added the sick leave to the contract in the house and watch the Republicans fall all over themselves trying to explain why they're voting against it. While it probably wouldn't achieve Saint Reagan's goal of farking over unions by averting a rail strike without concessions from the companies because the Republicans would probably filibuster the bill, it would have:
1) been beneficial for unions to be backed up by one party

2) Been beneficial for Democrats to demonstrate their union standing

And, 3) been detrimental to Republicans to explain why they voted against everyday workers.
 
2022-12-01 5:26:13 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: MrBallou: Ishkur: MrBallou: I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.

That's per month, right?

In my job, I have accumulated about 1200 hours sick leave over the years. I'll only use it if I need to.

Get the "need to" part? It's significant.

Mental health days so you don't accelerate out of the corner like an Andretti piloting 200,000 tons of steel, people, and goods in a heavy urban center I would consider necessary,


Username finally apropos.
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2022-12-01 5:26:57 AM  
If you give them sick days then they'll expect healthcare. If they want those kinds of goodies, run for office.

/s
 
2022-12-01 5:41:27 AM  
I hope the rail workers strike anyway. It's not like it was legal when unions formed in the 19th century anyway.
 
2022-12-01 5:49:22 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: I hope the rail workers strike anyway. It's not like it was legal when unions formed in the 19th century anyway.


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2022-12-01 5:53:03 AM  
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2022-12-01 5:55:16 AM  

Testiclaw: olorin604: Testiclaw: Which is why the farking bills shouldn't have been split.

Nah, this way is better. If it was together and had passed, they wouldn't be able to campaign on "Republicans don't support sick leave."  You have to remember that the job of a congressperson is not to legislate or represent their constituency, it is to get reelected or help their party members in their elections.

Oh cool, it's good for campaigning.

Except I want the laborers to have, you know, time to see their doctors or families.

But that campaign boost is good, too, I guess.

...


Then you should reserve your ire for the people who voted against it instead of rushing in here to shiat on the people who voted for it.
 
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