Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."

wademh: Headline versus article.

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That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.

bigdanc: misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."

I have pulled the lever for democrats every election since 2004, never again.  I will never vote for a republican either, but forget these guys.

The abortion rights kill me, but I'm a union worker who has thrown his life away on 6 day work weeks for 6 of the last 10 years because my employer keeps on the - for the greater good - messaging.  D's are just as complicit in ruining my life as R's.  I'm done, son.  All of my extra energy is going in to working with homeless people from now on.

My uncle worked on the railroads his whole life. He had been a dyed in the wool Democrat until the mid-2000s when he started grumbling that "they're all crooks."

He was a Trump voter who hated Trump and called him a crook too. He just wanted change in the system.

Given the Democrats' actions this week, it's not hard to argue with him, but I tried bringing him over to the third party so that he wouldn't be voting for TFG.

FightDirector: misanthropicsob: Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

On the plus side, this is an excellent case study for proof that the Overton Window has shifted to the right, when Biden is taking the same actions that Ronald Farking Regan took.

/workers should strike anyway and dare the railroads to hire armed union-busters to force them back to work.
//Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia

One doesn't even need to go back to the 1920s. Harlan County USA is an essential documentary on the war over union and labor rights. That battle took place in 1973.



It's grotesque that the Democratic Party has been taking sides against unions for 25 years now.

wademh: misanthropicsob: wademh: Headline versus article.

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That vote is for the bill to force the unaltered contract that the unions already rejected.

The sick leave bill is a separate bill and is detailed later in the article:

The House passed the sick leave measure as well, but by a much narrower margin, 221-207, as Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it, indicating that prospects for passage of the add-on are slim in the evenly divided Senate.

Yes, I misread (didn't finish reading) things. But you're being deceptive.
8 of 12 unions accepted the proposal. 4 did not.

The 4 unions that rejected the contract represent 55% of the workers.

wademh: Testiclaw: Have you tried to read anything about this before spouting off in here?

In this case, no. I'm not well informed. I said as much.

You should stop calling other people deceptive if you're going to speak authoritatively on topics which you haven't read up on.

MrBallou: misanthropicsob: Remember when the Democrats split their reconciliation bill into two parts: the progressive social part (BBB) and the corporate funding part (BIF)? Remember that the Democrats did this to explicitly kill the progressive bill (BBB) while passing the corporate funding bill (BIF). They had already done this prior with the minimum wage bills.

That's the same philosophy Democrats are using here. They split up the rail union bills into two parts: 1) the same damned contract that the workers rejected in September, and 2) the sick time leave that the workers are fighting for.

They did this to pass the contract while claiming they tried to pass the sick leave while knowing it will get killed in the senate.

Joe Biden is doing this because "the consequences of the strike would be unbearable"...WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A STRIKE. Joe Biden and the Democrats are explicitly taking the role of Saint Reagan and union busting private workers in the name of commerce.

It's a terrible look for "the most progressive president ever."

I reluctantly agree, but would add, ITS THE FU€KING REPUBLICANS THAT WILL KEEP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING A MEASLY 7 DAYS SICK LEAVE, not the Democrats.

Democrats could have added the sick leave to the contract in the house and watch the Republicans fall all over themselves trying to explain why they're voting against it. While it probably wouldn't achieve Saint Reagan's goal of farking over unions by averting a rail strike without concessions from the companies because the Republicans would probably filibuster the bill, it would have:
1) been beneficial for unions to be backed up by one party

2) Been beneficial for Democrats to demonstrate their union standing

And, 3) been detrimental to Republicans to explain why they voted against everyday workers.