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(GamesRadar)   Ever wonder why Disney animated characters always wear white gloves? The answer may be more sinister than you think. (And why does Donald wear a towel when he gets of of the shower when he doesn't even wear pants?)   (social.gamesradar.com) divider line
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2022-11-30 2:04:50 PM  
More sinister, indeed...

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2022-11-30 2:22:46 PM  
Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.
 
2022-11-30 2:23:31 PM  
I don't wonder anymore because that shiat blog made me nope out and stop caring.
 
2022-11-30 2:25:32 PM  
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2022-11-30 2:35:28 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


That and racisms in the form of blackface, allegedly.
 
2022-11-30 2:44:28 PM  
Same reason as Looney Tunes, they were copying minstrel acts.
 
2022-11-30 2:45:11 PM  

Gonzo317: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

That and racisms in the form of blackface, allegedly.


Well, I mean Mickey was at least kind of a blackface character back in the 1920s. They were prevalent back then

He's obviously had that aspect taken out of the design over the years though
 
2022-11-30 2:56:19 PM  
Well, that was a whole lot of pearl clutching for so little payoff.
 
2022-11-30 3:13:46 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


farking Christ.

Came to say this.  It's easier.  That's it.  You don't need a 10,000 word missive to say it's easier.
 
2022-11-30 3:23:00 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


You forgot the racism. 

Vaudeville shows influenced the early animations (to nobody's surprise who has seen early animations from an era where racism was as commonplace as social media use) and made not so thinly veiled references to minstrel shows.
 
2022-11-30 3:32:09 PM  
Jesus Fark, did they tease the fark out of that. Easy to draw and a basis in vaudeville era black-face.

F*ck that website, goddamn.
 
2022-11-30 3:38:37 PM  
Ever wonder why Fark has such a chub for Disney? Find out after the jump.
 
2022-11-30 3:54:16 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


Same reason most of them only have three fingers.
 
2022-11-30 3:55:32 PM  

DecemberNitro: Ever wonder why Fark has such a chub for Disney? Find out after the jump.


*Jump*

Disney and Fark have had a long, one sided relationship with one another where one is completely oblivious to the existence of the other. So to understand why Fark has the chub for Disney, we'll need to go back in time. 

*Jump*

Going back in time to explain Fark's chub for Disney is no small feat, in fact, in order to understand the chub, first you must understand what Fark is. 

*Jump*

Explaining what Fark is is no easy task, so to understand that, you must understand what a task is and why some tasks are easier than others.

*Jump*

Tasks are things that people find easy, but also sometimes hard, and to understand why things are hard or easy and not soft we'll have to go back in time to a time where everything was simply hard. 

*Jump*

Early in the days of days, where days were as long as days and people's lives were hard, they had a hard time living lives that felt like lives worth living. 

*Jump* 

Lives worth living isn't something machines can understand, largely due to machines not being able to truly think, or at least as we understand them.

*Jump*

Since machines can't really think, they also can't really intentionally reproduce, so humans have to build new machines in order to help them procreate.

*Jump*

And that's how babies are made. 

*Jump* 

For machines.
 
2022-11-30 4:00:50 PM  
"Sinister"? That shiatty article boils down to this: Curves are easier to draw. There, that's the WHOLE FARKING EXPLANATION.

Save the click. It's a farking useless farking link, and subby should go to time out and think upon what they have done.
 
2022-11-30 4:03:11 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

You forgot the racism. 

Vaudeville shows influenced the early animations (to nobody's surprise who has seen early animations from an era where racism was as commonplace as social media use) and made not so thinly veiled references to minstrel shows.


Who farking cares? It's a useless farking article, period.
 
2022-11-30 4:06:25 PM  

Mikey1969: Cthulhu Theory: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

You forgot the racism. 

Vaudeville shows influenced the early animations (to nobody's surprise who has seen early animations from an era where racism was as commonplace as social media use) and made not so thinly veiled references to minstrel shows.

Who farking cares? It's a useless farking article, period.


Why do you hate identifying any minute trace of historical racism? Don't you want to destroy racism? We can't destroy racism for good if we don't dig up every single scrap of historic racism, no matter how contemporaneously irrelevant it is!

/s
 
2022-11-30 4:14:12 PM  
"for reasons no one yet seems to have worked out, birds are the only characters from the Disney stable that typically don't wear white mitts"

Really, no one has worked out the reason? Did you try asking any non-idiots?

How exactly would you put gloves on a bird?
 
2022-11-30 4:22:53 PM  

apoptotic: "for reasons no one yet seems to have worked out, birds are the only characters from the Disney stable that typically don't wear white mitts"

Really, no one has worked out the reason? Did you try asking any non-idiots?

How exactly would you put gloves on a bird?


Better question, If Goofy is a dog and Pluto is a dog, then why does Goofy act like like a human, going so far as walking pluto like a dog? Is this some bizarre master/slave BDSM relationship they have? And they openly flaunt it to the other characters in public? Do I need to call my farking congressman and fox news here?
 
2022-11-30 4:30:14 PM  

Subtonic: Jesus Fark, did they tease the fark out of that. Easy to draw and a basis in vaudeville era black-face.

F*ck that website, goddamn.


That website needs to give its balls a tug.

/Titfarker
 
2022-11-30 4:35:09 PM  

Subtonic: apoptotic: "for reasons no one yet seems to have worked out, birds are the only characters from the Disney stable that typically don't wear white mitts"

Really, no one has worked out the reason? Did you try asking any non-idiots?

How exactly would you put gloves on a bird?

Better question, If Goofy is a dog and Pluto is a dog, then why does Goofy act like like a human, going so far as walking pluto like a dog? Is this some bizarre master/slave BDSM relationship they have? And they openly flaunt it to the other characters in public? Do I need to call my farking congressman and fox news here?


Goofy is to Pluto as Francine Patterson is to Koko the gorilla. 

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2022-11-30 4:37:34 PM  
As an illustrator, I had no need to click subbies submission...
 
2022-11-30 4:41:27 PM  
I'm note even sure "easier to draw" is the right way to put it.

More expressive, yes.  Easier to pick out key details of hand animations when they are a different color from everything else.  Contrast is nice.

Also like 90% of cartoons were almost entirely informed by minstrel acts, but that's been thoroughly covered here.
 
2022-11-30 4:42:15 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Mikey1969: Cthulhu Theory: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

You forgot the racism. 

Vaudeville shows influenced the early animations (to nobody's surprise who has seen early animations from an era where racism was as commonplace as social media use) and made not so thinly veiled references to minstrel shows.

Who farking cares? It's a useless farking article, period.

Why do you hate identifying any minute trace of historical racism? Don't you want to destroy racism? We can't destroy racism for good if we don't dig up every single scrap of historic racism, no matter how contemporaneously irrelevant it is!

/s


LOL, that was summed up perfectly!
 
2022-11-30 4:43:00 PM  

BeesNuts: I'm note even sure "easier to draw" is the right way to put it.

More expressive, yes.  Easier to pick out key details of hand animations when they are a different color from everything else.  Contrast is nice.

Also like 90% of cartoons were almost entirely informed by minstrel acts, but that's been thoroughly covered here.


It is. That's exactly how people learn to draw, they start with shapes, and a lot of times they are curved shapes. So yes, easier to draw.
 
2022-11-30 4:50:27 PM  

natazha: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

Same reason most of them only have three fingers.


...they're actually Yakuza members in disguise?!?
 
2022-11-30 4:50:43 PM  

Mikey1969: BeesNuts: I'm note even sure "easier to draw" is the right way to put it.

More expressive, yes.  Easier to pick out key details of hand animations when they are a different color from everything else.  Contrast is nice.

Also like 90% of cartoons were almost entirely informed by minstrel acts, but that's been thoroughly covered here.

It is. That's exactly how people learn to draw, they start with shapes, and a lot of times they are curved shapes. So yes, easier to draw.


Here's a much better, less obnoxious article about the subject.

Yes, they were looking for a way to do the rubber-hose thing with hands like they had with arms and legs and bodies.  However, they first landed on "rubber-hose the hands" before realizing that you couldn't tell wtf the hands were doing because of the lack of contrast.
 
2022-11-30 4:51:16 PM  

FigPucker: natazha: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

Same reason most of them only have three fingers.

...they're actually Yakuza members in disguise?!?


Secret Capybaras, obviously.
 
2022-11-30 4:55:42 PM  
I mean, who wants a rodent touching things with their bare hands? It's just sanitary.
 
2022-11-30 5:06:25 PM  

BeesNuts: I'm note even sure "easier to draw" is the right way to put it.

More expressive, yes.  Easier to pick out key details of hand animations when they are a different color from everything else.  Contrast is nice.

Also like 90% of cartoons were almost entirely informed by minstrel acts, but that's been thoroughly covered here.


Congratulations. You just wrote the entire "article" in 5 sentences. Unfortunately, you will never make it in the clickbait half assed journalism field.
 
2022-11-30 5:10:14 PM  
Once all your characters are all wearing the same standard color glove, you can basically just have a library of glove-cells for gestures that you use interchangeably between characters, not to mention the higher contrast of glove to arm to really make the gestures pop.

Not even an animator and I knew this just from spending two seconds thinking.
 
2022-11-30 5:22:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


Oh. It's not revealing the secret of old minstrel shows or something?
 
2022-11-30 5:25:45 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Mikey1969: Cthulhu Theory: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

You forgot the racism. 

Vaudeville shows influenced the early animations (to nobody's surprise who has seen early animations from an era where racism was as commonplace as social media use) and made not so thinly veiled references to minstrel shows.

Who farking cares? It's a useless farking article, period.

Why do you hate identifying any minute trace of historical racism? Don't you want to destroy racism? We can't destroy racism for good if we don't dig up every single scrap of historic racism, no matter how contemporaneously irrelevant it is!

/s


It's a cakewalk!
 
2022-11-30 5:27:26 PM  

apoptotic: "for reasons no one yet seems to have worked out, birds are the only characters from the Disney stable that typically don't wear white mitts"

Really, no one has worked out the reason? Did you try asking any non-idiots?

How exactly would you put gloves on a bird?


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And shockingly enough they didn't need to use gloves. Maybe their racial cartooning theories are not fully developed.
 
2022-11-30 7:19:36 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


WOAH!!!

A wee *SPOILERS ALERT* woulda been nice there, buckaroo! Some of us were totally intending to click the link, after checking the thread here ;-D
 
2022-11-30 8:49:29 PM  
that website touched my in a bad way
 
2022-11-30 9:36:49 PM  
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2022-11-30 9:58:51 PM  
because it was easier to draw and easier to read visually...also.. because of Minstrel shows and to some extent Vaudeville...white gloves served a similar purpose so far as being easier for the Audience's eye to track.

beyond that and some filmography details, most of that article was a bunch of bullshiat pulled out of the half fictional official Disney biographies...
never mind that Ub Iwerks designed both Oswald and Mickey's original character models... Walt Disney didn't invent the concept of anthropomorphizing animal characters, not in print, and not in animation...not even remotely.
the gloves only serve to make the "human" behavior more effective is not because its an animal wearing clothes...its because you can now more easily see what the fingers are doing etc. the fact that these animals are walking upright, and talking does a lot of the heavy lifting as do the opposable thumbs...driving cars etc.


/CSB: the late Bill "Tex" Henson (former animator at Disney, created Chip and Dale) used to teach at Brookhaven Jr College. he was full of great back in the day stories. but my favorite was him telling a story about an event where Art Babbitt was attending, and Walt Disney showed up at the same hotel, and had his people "invite" Babbitt to come meet him , Tex described Walts 3rd party invites as a "polite summons" , because "most people won't say no to Walt Disney, no matter how they felt about him personally." 
Anyways Art Babbitt, according to Tex told Disneys people "To Dinner?! I wouldn't cross the room to piss on that son of a biatch if he was on fire!"
 
2022-11-30 10:18:22 PM  
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2022-11-30 11:43:49 PM  

OhioUGrad: I don't wonder anymore because that shiat blog made me nope out and stop caring.


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2022-12-01 12:48:07 AM  
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2022-12-01 12:51:06 AM  

BeesNuts: I'm note even sure "easier to draw" is the right way to put it.

More expressive, yes.  Easier to pick out key details of hand animations when they are a different color from everything else.  Contrast is nice.

Also like 90% of cartoons were almost entirely informed by minstrel acts, but that's been thoroughly covered here.


Less aggressive than Mickey and Minnie having claws.
 
2022-12-01 12:51:15 AM  

apoptotic: "for reasons no one yet seems to have worked out, birds are the only characters from the Disney stable that typically don't wear white mitts"

Really, no one has worked out the reason? Did you try asking any non-idiots?

How exactly would you put gloves on a bird?


Personally, I'd put them at the ends of their arms.
 
2022-12-01 1:04:35 AM  
Disney illustrators were perfectly capable of drawing hands and knees and elbows. They were all highly skilled and talented.*
Sure it was easier to draw simplified hands/gloves, noodle arms and legs, etc., but I think an important reason for adopting gloves and tubular appendages might have been related to making it easier for the audience to see and understand what they were watching. These adaptations just scan better.

*see Bambi
 
2022-12-01 1:25:04 AM  

Gonzo317: Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.

That and racisms in the form of blackface, allegedly.


... no?

They're modeled off of a fairly standard costume in minstrel shows, but the reason minstrelry used them were the same as the reasons they worked well in animation: visual contrast and, in the case of performers who were in blackface rather than just black, a reduction in the amount of ink/paint needed for the look.

There's not really a "racist" origin for the gloves themselves, in both cases they're there for visual clarity and efficiency.  Obviously blackface acts were themselves racist, but come the fark on, extending that to the farking basic costuming elements not even particularly unique to them means you've basically gone full Syndrome on this shiat, and nothing is racist because everything is racist now.  Oh, no, minstrel show actors were made of water, breathed air, and were seen by the visible light spectrum reflecting off of them.  All those things are basically Hitler now, I guess.
 
2022-12-01 1:55:18 AM  

Mad_Radhu: I mean, who wants a rodent touching things with their bare hands? It's just sanitary.


Also, mice constantly urinate.
Mickey's not wearing shorts, it's a diaper.
 
2022-12-01 2:20:04 AM  

Stratohead: because it was easier to draw and easier to read visually...also.. because of Minstrel shows and to some extent Vaudeville...white gloves served a similar purpose so far as being easier for the Audience's eye to track.

beyond that and some filmography details, most of that article was a bunch of bullshiat pulled out of the half fictional official Disney biographies...
never mind that Ub Iwerks designed both Oswald and Mickey's original character models... Walt Disney didn't invent the concept of anthropomorphizing animal characters, not in print, and not in animation...not even remotely.
the gloves only serve to make the "human" behavior more effective is not because its an animal wearing clothes...its because you can now more easily see what the fingers are doing etc. the fact that these animals are walking upright, and talking does a lot of the heavy lifting as do the opposable thumbs...driving cars etc.


/CSB: the late Bill "Tex" Henson (former animator at Disney, created Chip and Dale) used to teach at Brookhaven Jr College. he was full of great back in the day stories. but my favorite was him telling a story about an event where Art Babbitt was attending, and Walt Disney showed up at the same hotel, and had his people "invite" Babbitt to come meet him , Tex described Walts 3rd party invites as a "polite summons" , because "most people won't say no to Walt Disney, no matter how they felt about him personally." 
Anyways Art Babbitt, according to Tex told Disneys people "To Dinner?! I wouldn't cross the room to piss on that son of a biatch if he was on fire!"


Didn't Art Babbit get canceled for diddling the teenager who served as the model for Snow White??

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/rip/marge-champion-actor-and-dancer-who-was-model-for-snow-white-dies-at-101-197986.html
 
2022-12-01 8:55:35 AM  
Did anybody actually finish that page?   What a horrible site.

My guesses are that it's easier to animate because you don't have to worry about finer details like knuckles and probably something to do with early film/tv being in black & white so having white hands on a dark character would be easier to follow.
 
2022-12-01 8:56:58 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


You continue to do the Lord's work, Ms. Ninja.
 
2022-12-01 10:05:38 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Because they're easier to draw.

There, now you don't have to wade through that abortion of a website and it's one-sentence-paragraphs-drizzled- between-stupid-pictures-and-ads approach to writing.


Thank you.
 
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