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(Empire Magazine)   Star Wars show "Andor" had a character say "fark" in the finale, but Disney censored it without even offering a swear jar reprieve   (empireonline.com) divider line
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2022-11-30 12:21:51 PM  
Dank farrik....
 
2022-11-30 12:23:41 PM  
It's better with fight.

fark the empire is just an insult. Fight the empire is a commandment to rise up.

Imagine if NWA had released "fight tha police"
 
2022-11-30 12:47:18 PM  

Gubbo: It's better with fight.

fark the empire is just an insult. Fight the empire is a commandment to rise up.

Imagine if NWA had released "fight tha police"


Agreed.

Andor was awesome.  Already missing it.
 
2022-11-30 12:59:13 PM  
Partially related, Denise Gough is terrifyingly attractive while being terrifying
 
2022-11-30 1:46:29 PM  
Then I'll see you in heck.
 
2022-11-30 1:48:57 PM  
Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?
 
2022-11-30 1:53:44 PM  

Mikey1969: Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?


You have been here long enough to know it's not News, it's Fark.
 
2022-11-30 2:07:17 PM  
Andor is most definitely in the same heady sphere as A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
I sat and watched the finale and realized that I was having a genuine reaction of dread over the assembly of a goddamned science fiction MARCHING BAND.

And yes, in that moment, "Fight" needed to be the word.

/Got my B2EMO figure this morning
//Also went ahead and got a K2SO and LE 37
///Realized that the Droids are the best parts of the contemporary prequels.
 
2022-11-30 2:08:35 PM  
That word was never going to be heard on screen in a Star Wars show. It's what the actors heard on set for the purposes of filming the final scene. It's like saying, "originally, all of the blasters sounded like a person shouting 'BANG'." Wait until people find out that the hologram wasn't even there!

This kind of clickbait is for the folks who think that there is one General Lee from Dukes of Hazard, and that all of A Christmas Story was filmed in a house in Cleveland.

(good interview, though!)
 
2022-11-30 2:10:40 PM  

Gubbo: It's better with fight.

fark the empire is just an insult. Fight the empire is a commandment to rise up.

Imagine if NWA had released "fight tha police"


yeah, i'm glad they went with "Fight the empire"
 
2022-11-30 2:10:45 PM  

Mikey1969: Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?


I can't recall a Star Wars product even attempting one of the seven dirty words. Andor was also the first Star Wars product that made actual sexual rather than ambiguously romantic relationships part of the storyline. It's interesting to know that there's a maturation in at least some aspects of the story.
 
2022-11-30 2:12:08 PM  
I thought it was much more exhilarating to hear Maarva say those bastards..such malice.
 
2022-11-30 2:12:40 PM  

likefunbutnot: Mikey1969: Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?

I can't recall a Star Wars product even attempting one of the seven dirty words. Andor was also the first Star Wars product that made actual sexual rather than ambiguously romantic relationships part of the storyline. It's interesting to know that there's a maturation in at least some aspects of the story.


Musk did say "shiat" after Syril the Incompetent Incel farked everything up.
 
2022-11-30 2:26:03 PM  

likefunbutnot: Andor is most definitely in the same heady sphere as A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
I sat and watched the finale and realized that I was having a genuine reaction of dread over the assembly of a goddamned science fiction MARCHING BAND.

And yes, in that moment, "Fight" needed to be the word.

/Got my B2EMO figure this morning
//Also went ahead and got a K2SO and LE 37
///Realized that the Droids are the best parts of the contemporary prequels.


There's an interview with Tony Gilroy where he credits the inspiration for that scene as part IRA funeral procession into the face of the British army, and part New Orleans funeral music procession.

Either way, it works
 
2022-11-30 2:37:12 PM  

Gubbo: There's an interview with Tony Gilroy where he credits the inspiration for that scene as part IRA funeral procession into the face of the British army, and part New Orleans funeral music procession.


It reminded me that the absolute baddest motherfarkers in European warfare were the pipers, drummers and flag bearers, who took to the field knowing it was their job to move armies and not a sword or rifle among the lot.
 
2022-11-30 2:59:06 PM  
How is she so terrifying?

She is shown to be in over her head repeatedly.


Also, romantic overtures between Han and Leia in a space slug are not the same as Andor buying hookers and blow. That's more Jabbas Dancing Girls being fed to a Rancor.
 
2022-11-30 3:05:43 PM  
I call it And/or
 
2022-11-30 4:23:58 PM  
I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.
 
2022-11-30 4:43:50 PM  

mofa: I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.


I just finished Andor on Sunday. The only bad thing I have to say about it whatsoever is that I'm disappointed I'll never be able to experience it again for the first time. The next best thing will be introducing other people to it in watch parties.

What an emotional ride. Everything hit right.

To piggyback your comment there, the look on Skarsgard'sface barely changes when the riot starts to take place, but there's enough expressiveness there to tell the story that he understands he didn't even have to poke the bear on Ferrix to get these people to fight back and that means the rebellion has expanded beyond his machinations.
 
2022-11-30 4:47:39 PM  

mofa: I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.


Right actor, wrong part. My vote is Mark Hamill when he unleashed his final barrage on Vader.

Up until that moment Luke was prepared to die in order to take Vader and Palpatine with him. Hamill played him with fairly calm resignation. "...then perhaps she will" burdened him what Loki called Glorious Purpose, and Hamill really brought the rage.
 
2022-11-30 4:57:06 PM  
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2022-11-30 5:07:04 PM  

plecos: Gubbo: It's better with fight.

fark the empire is just an insult. Fight the empire is a commandment to rise up.

Imagine if NWA had released "fight tha police"

Agreed.

Andor was awesome.  Already missing it.


Yup, that's the best thing that's been done by Disney in the Star Wars universe so far.  AND it highlights just why TLJ is the best movie they've done.  When talking about adult issues and mature storylines, the series can grow.  I mean FFS, the franchise is in its 40s now, it should be acting like it...
 
2022-11-30 5:16:23 PM  

clkeagle: mofa: I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.

Right actor, wrong part. My vote is Mark Hamill when he unleashed his final barrage on Vader.

Up until that moment Luke was prepared to die in order to take Vader and Palpatine with him. Hamill played him with fairly calm resignation. "...then perhaps she will" burdened him what Loki called Glorious Purpose, and Hamill really brought the rage.


I have been arguing in the fight community for years now that the fight between Rey and Ben in Force Awakens, while less technically adept, is a better and more fulfilling fight for the audience than the 3-way fight at the end of Phantom Menace, explicitly because of this issue.  The characters in TFA actually emote during their fight, while the characters in TPM don't until right up at the end after (spoiler warning) Qui-Gonn dies and Obi-wan loses control - people remember that part of the fight, I've found, but struggle to remember with any detail the remainder.

When it comes to fight scenes in particular, and film in general, the real interest for the audience isn't in the choreography of swinging swords around, it's in the emotional journey the characters go through during the fight, and the choreography is simply a means by which that journey takes place.  By forbidding the main characters of his series to show emotion for 99% of their screen time, Lucas essentially doomed his own franchise because emotion is how the audience relates to the characters, and if they can't show emotion then the audience isn't going to connect with the characters, and if they don't connect with the characters then they aren't going to give a damn who wins, loses, lives, or dies, when the stakes are high in the climax.

As a rule, emotionless characters (or hyperstoic characters, which in practice are the same thing) do not function as the primary protagonists whom the audience is supposed to root for**.  They work perfectly fine as a foil or as a counterpoint to normal or even particularly emotional characters (the classic Kirk/Spock/Bones trio or TNG's Data come to mind), but unless you're a top writer at the top of your game - which Lucas is very much not - relying on an emotionless character(s) at the main POV characters who have to carry your franchise is basically guaranteed to be a disaster.  I can't even think of a film offhand who's got an emotionless protagonist where the audience is intended to relate to and root for that protagonist, much less an actually successful or popular film.  The only thing that comes to mind recently is Michael Burnham in Star Trek:Discovery in the first season...and look how well that character went over with audiences.

By putting the Jedi into the lead roles of the prequels and then making them essentially as stoic as possible - save where he was argued into allowing them to show emotion, often by the actors themselves - Lucas doomed his own series into being unrelatable to audiences.  For all of the sequel series' faults (and there's a LOT of them, because the sequels are nearly unrelenting garbage fires for a truly impressive and immense variety of reasons), one of the extremely few things they did right was allow their franchise leads to emote, even if it wasn't done as well or intensely as a serious actor like Skarsgård can.

**they can work reasonably well as protagonists who are also villains or anti-heroes; anime in particular does this a lot.  But if the audience isn't supposed to like the protagonist this isn't so much of a problem, but when it comes to the Jedi that's clearly not what Lucas was going for.
 
2022-11-30 5:18:32 PM  
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2022-11-30 5:22:18 PM  
#ReleaseTheFarkCut
 
2022-11-30 5:29:01 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I call it And/or


The logical thing would be to call it &|
 
2022-11-30 6:32:50 PM  
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"Oh, Syril, you saved me! My hero!"
"Yes, and when I kill Andor and all his rebels, I will overthrow the Emperor and you can be my Consort, and together we will rule the Galaxy!"
*kissing sounds"

/missing scene reenacted
 
2022-11-30 6:33:17 PM  

FightDirector: When it comes to fight scenes in particular, and film in general, the real interest for the audience isn't in the choreography of swinging swords around, it's in the emotional journey the characters go through during the fight, and the choreography is simply a means by which that journey takes place.  By forbidding the main characters of his series to show emotion for 99% of their screen time, Lucas essentially doomed his own franchise because emotion is how the audience relates to the characters, and if they can't show emotion then the audience isn't going to connect with the characters, and if they don't connect with the characters then they aren't going to give a damn who wins, loses, lives, or dies, when the stakes are high in the climax.


Given what you do for a living and your assessment of emotional stakes in fights... am I stupid or smart when I say that one of my favorite screen fights is Rob Roy vs Archibald Cunningham?

I have no issues with the duel at the end of The Force Awakens, or the contactless fight between Luke's doppelganger and Kylo Ren. Rey and Kylo slaughtering the praetorian guard (Last Jedi) and Knights of Ren (Rise of Skywalker) felt more like prequel-era fighting.

The Mandalorian works as a fairly "cool" character, but even he is shown to make a lot of decisions based on his feelings for other characters or situations. You're dead on about Michael Burnham. If she had been the "emotionless" foil for the other characters (who are quite good) in ensemble stories she would have been fine. Centering every A-arc on her is why Discovery has failed as a series. Anti-heroes also need their foils; House didn't work without Wilson.
 
2022-11-30 7:11:07 PM  

Cinedelic: [pbs.twimg.com image 358x469]


Because you want them to go family style on you?
 
2022-11-30 7:18:41 PM  

Tarl3k: AND it highlights just why TLJ is the best movie they've done.


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2022-11-30 7:26:28 PM  

replacementcool: Gubbo: It's better with fight.

fark the empire is just an insult. Fight the empire is a commandment to rise up.

Imagine if NWA had released "fight tha police"

yeah, i'm glad they went with "Fight the empire"


Same, but Deadpool is doomed.
 
2022-11-30 7:32:31 PM  

mofa: I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.


Wait until you hear his monolog in ep 10...chef's kiss.
 
2022-11-30 7:35:39 PM  

likefunbutnot: /Got my B2EMO figure this morning
//Also went ahead and got a K2SO and LE 37
///Realized that the Droids are the best parts of the contemporary prequels.


In the finale, when dickhead attacked b2emo I was ready to kill some motherfathers as well.

B2emo might be my fav.
 
2022-11-30 7:38:49 PM  
FightDirector:

There's a reason the entire final fight in return of the Jedi is the most emotionally charged fight on the entire series. And also regarded as one of the best.

There are emotional stakes at play, visually as well as musically. You feel the desperation from Luke. You feel the anger as he chops at his father and takes the hand he took from him. The once black shadows peel back as the collar unbuttons, revealing the purity of Luke. The strength of his commitment to the force and turning his father to the light. He throws his lightsaber away and reveals that the Emperor will have to kill him.

Its why the sequels get Luke so absolutely wrong.
 
2022-11-30 7:44:03 PM  

Cinedelic: [pbs.twimg.com image 358x469]



kinda random CSB

I got to meet Edward James Olmos and Michael Hogan at Wizard World Chicago one year. They were literally the first booth at the entrance to the con and I was one of the first people let on the floor and they were out at 10AM on a Friday morning.

My own father was a US Naval Officer and taciturn hardass and the first thing I could think to say to Saul Tigh himself was that his character was my dad embodied on screen.

He put his hand on my shoulder and said "You poor bastard" and every single person who has heard Michael Hogan's voice knows exactly what that sounded like.
 
2022-11-30 7:47:42 PM  

likefunbutnot: Cinedelic: [pbs.twimg.com image 358x469]


kinda random CSB

I got to meet Edward James Olmos and Michael Hogan at Wizard World Chicago one year. They were literally the first booth at the entrance to the con and I was one of the first people let on the floor and they were out at 10AM on a Friday morning.

My own father was a US Naval Officer and taciturn hardass and the first thing I could think to say to Saul Tigh himself was that his character was my dad embodied on screen.

He put his hand on my shoulder and said "You poor bastard" and every single person who has heard Michael Hogan's voice knows exactly what that sounded like.


That must have been a great moment. Just that acknowledgement from a great actor, but just that whole emotional acknowledgment would have messed with me for a while.
 
2022-11-30 7:58:48 PM  

clkeagle: Given what you do for a living and your assessment of emotional stakes in fights... am I stupid or smart when I say that one of my favorite screen fights is Rob Roy vs Archibald Cunningham?


Generally smart.  That's a solidly choreographed fight with good emotional stakes all around, and it appears on my Top Swordfights list as well.

Night Train to Wakanda: There's a reason the entire final fight in return of the Jedi is the most emotionally charged fight on the entire series. And also regarded as one of the best.


Yup.  The choreography of that final phrase ("then perhaps she will" "NO" theyfight) is completely pedestrian. I've stolen it wholesale before and used it for high school stage productions, because it only requires a marginally-coordinately high school freshman to actually perform.  And the fact that the choreo is simplistic in the extreme doesn't matter a damn, because what we care about is Luke's emotional journey, not whether a descending diagonal blow from the shoulder was a Squalembretto or an Oberhau Rechts or a Zornhau-Ort or a Kirioroshi (and yes, all of those are very real technical terms in Italian, early German, late German, and Japanese, swordplay).
 
2022-11-30 9:07:24 PM  

Gubbo: /Got my B2EMO figure this morning


Respect

//Also went ahead and got a K2SO

Diminishing

and LE 37

Gone
 
2022-11-30 10:58:19 PM  

Man. Goatman.: I just finished Andor on Sunday. The only bad thing I have to say about it whatsoever is that I'm disappointed I'll never be able to experience it again for the first time. The next best thing will be introducing other people to it in watch parties.


I'm on my second watch through and the first arc on Ferrix works much better in context.  You can see all of the characters (especially the side characters) being moved into place and their motivations being established.  It's a great bookend with the Rix Road battle.
 
2022-11-30 11:39:21 PM  

likefunbutnot: Andor was also the first Star Wars product that made actual sexual rather than ambiguously romantic relationships part of the storyline.


Wrong. The very first Star Wars sequel had blatant, musky, sexual loving in it. It was self-love, but sexual love all the same.

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2022-12-01 12:23:42 AM  
colloquialism and highly regional specific accents (like Brooklyn in TPM) are distracting in a story that takes place in a Galaxy far far away. To me at least.
 
2022-12-01 12:35:17 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: How is she so terrifying?

She is shown to be in over her head repeatedly.


Also, romantic overtures between Han and Leia in a space slug are not the same as Andor buying hookers and blow. That's more Jabbas Dancing Girls being fed to a Rancor.


And cowers, shaking uncontrollably when faced with real violence. Absolutely love the character and actress though. Show's great, score is amazing.
 
2022-12-01 12:50:06 AM  

likefunbutnot: Cinedelic: [pbs.twimg.com image 358x469]


kinda random CSB

I got to meet Edward James Olmos and Michael Hogan at Wizard World Chicago one year. They were literally the first booth at the entrance to the con and I was one of the first people let on the floor and they were out at 10AM on a Friday morning.

My own father was a US Naval Officer and taciturn hardass and the first thing I could think to say to Saul Tigh himself was that his character was my dad embodied on screen.

He put his hand on my shoulder and said "You poor bastard" and every single person who has heard Michael Hogan's voice knows exactly what that sounded like.


Awesome story. Hogan had a fall a couple years ago and recovery is rough. His family started a GoFundMe for help with expenses if anyone is interested.

/For me, the end of Exodus pt2, where Tighclops just fades into the crowd  after getting off New Caprica is the best nuBSG ever got. Mccreary absolutely nailed the score too.
//Crowd chanting Adama's (who lost nothing) name, when Saul sacrificed Ellen.
///"You did it. You got them out"
"Not all of them". Brilliant, gut-wrenching stuff.
 
2022-12-01 12:54:47 AM  

likefunbutnot: Mikey1969: Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?

I can't recall a Star Wars product even attempting one of the seven dirty words. Andor was also the first Star Wars product that made actual sexual rather than ambiguously romantic relationships part of the storyline. It's interesting to know that there's a maturation in at least some aspects of the story.


Star Wars characters should swear how they swear in the Star Wars universe. Not the way we do it on earth.

Scruffy looking nerf herder...for example.

Saying "Fark" doesn't make it mature. It cheapens it creatively.
 
2022-12-01 2:00:34 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: FightDirector:

There's a reason the entire final fight in return of the Jedi is the most emotionally charged fight on the entire series. And also regarded as one of the best.

There are emotional stakes at play, visually as well as musically. You feel the desperation from Luke. You feel the anger as he chops at his father and takes the hand he took from him. The once black shadows peel back as the collar unbuttons, revealing the purity of Luke. The strength of his commitment to the force and turning his father to the light. He throws his lightsaber away and reveals that the Emperor will have to kill him.

Its why the sequels get Luke so absolutely wrong.


Can't agree.  There's two separate moments in that fight where Luke gives in to his range and anger and taps into the Dark Side, and you can't possibly miss this because Palpatine cackles and taunts Luke about how close to the edge he stands, and one small step too far and Luke is the Emperor's, forever, replacing his father at Palpatine's side.  It's the antithesis of "purity"; Luke is absolutely torn between giving in to his rage or reining it in, and it's not clear until the final moment that he's gonna make the right choice.  That final moment when he tosses away his saber is the moment he finally gets a handle on his darker leanings and gets himself back under control, because he definitely hasn't been up until then.  At that moment, he spiritually "won" in keeping his soul safe from the temptation he nearly fell to, but he also absolutely "lost" because now the Emperor's just gonna kill him and he doesn't have any chance of fighting back, because the Dark Side was the only thing giving Luke enough strength to beat his father, let alone the Emperor.  He gets to die without falling to the Dark Side; that's what Luke "wins" in the end.

And that's enough to spark the slightest bit of parental love in Vader, that lets him break Palpatine's control just long enough to chuck him down the hole.  Without Vader's intervention, Luke just . . . dies in that room.  Luke isn't the big hero who saves the day.  Vader is.  And hell; Vader's probably not acting on particularly Light-sided motivations; all his latent anger and drive for vengeance against Palpatine is all surging to the fore.  In the end, it ends like all Sith relationships do; with the Apprentice surpassing and killing their Master.

This is all why the end of RotJ is brilliant (a lot of the rest of it's pretty eh).  That Luke is heavily predisposed to the Dark Side, like his father before him.  That Vader's the one who saves the day.  All of this doesn't fall neatly into standard Good v. Bad tropes.  The entire point is that Luke is anything but "pure".  He's troubled and "grey" and barely holding on. That's what makes it emotional; that whole fight scene with Vader has nothing to do with whether Luke can win.  He can't.  His choices are "kill his dad and replace him at Palpatine's side" or "die without falling to the Dark Side".  Victory was off the table before he ever even showed up.  And the outcome was very much in question; your uncertainty over whether Luke can hold it together is where the emotion comes from, as you see how very close to the edge he's walking.  You get the surge of victory as he refuses to seize the power of the Dark Side he clearly yearns for, then the tragic defeat as he's so clearly outclassed without it.  And then his dad's final triumph.  It's a big emotional yo-yo, and the center is all about whether Luke can resist the Dark Side, because that's very much in question.
 
2022-12-01 3:06:55 AM  
Endus:

I can't with you people. Not only are you absolutely intentionally missing the point, you're fabricating things that have been addressed and resolved in the span of seconds.

He didn't "lose". He sacrificed himself intentionally. He was prepared to die. He touched the dark side in a vain attempt to save the rebel alliance and his friends. He sees Vader gasping for breath missing a hand, just like his missing hand. And in that instant pulls back and succeeds at not succumbing to the dark side, forcing Sheev to kill him. Which sparked Vaders paternal desires and links to Padme and he was once again Anakin Skywalker, something he has tried in vain to kill but never can let go of. The Ewoks tipped the scales on the shield generators on Endor catching Imperial forces by surprise, even if Luke died right then and there, Vader and Sheev would have gone up with the reactor of the second deathstar. But it was Luke's sacrifice or as you put it, his ultimate "loss" that created the redemption of Vader. The rejection of what the emperor stands for, and giving hope that Vader would have the dark side power to reject Palpafine.

Literally resolved in seconds of frame.
 
2022-12-01 4:53:08 AM  
I finally watched it last night.   Freakin' masterpiece.

"Fight" was the right word at the right time.
 
2022-12-01 5:01:39 AM  

Man. Goatman.: mofa: I just started rewatching it this morning; I'm on episode 4, and Stellan Skarsgård was telling Faye Marsay's character Vel to accept Cassian into her team, and he yelled "LOOK AT ME!" with such emotion that I realized that nobody has really made actors act in any other Star Wars movie or series before.

And a few minutes later, he's putting on that long-haired wig and becoming the charming military antiquities dealer.

// Oh, okay; when Luke was screaming that Darth wasn't his father, he was showing emotion, but that was young Mark Hamill emotion, not Stellan Farking Skarsgård emotion.

I just finished Andor on Sunday. The only bad thing I have to say about it whatsoever is that I'm disappointed I'll never be able to experience it again for the first time. The next best thing will be introducing other people to it in watch parties.

What an emotional ride. Everything hit right.

To piggyback your comment there, the look on Skarsgard'sface barely changes when the riot starts to take place, but there's enough expressiveness there to tell the story that he understands he didn't even have to poke the bear on Ferrix to get these people to fight back and that means the rebellion has expanded beyond his machinations.


Skarsgaard is a master at stone faced emoting.   His Baron Harkonen was exactly the same.  Slow, stone cold, absolutely terrifying.
 
2022-12-01 7:50:14 AM  

Mikey1969: Who cares? Why is this newsworthy at all?


Because it is Star Wars, the greatest work of fiction ever dreamed up by any human being. Aristotle and William Shakespeare bow down to its greatness.

The article submitted about the brand of nailclipper that Billy Dee Williams uses, and whether or not Lando would use it, should be greenlit in an hour.

BOW DOWN TO STAR WARS! IF YOU DON'T, YOU ARE AN INFIDEL!
 
2022-12-01 9:49:25 AM  

mjbok: and LE 37

Gone


L337 and Lando are the Queer Icons of Star Wars. We can all recognize that Billy Dee / Don Glover are indeed the smoothest gentlemen to make their appearance in universe, but L3 loving Lando and seeking recognition for her free will and her choices as a droid is basically the story of any number of LGBTs in the world today. Plus, she's voiced by Fleabag herself, which also makes her cool.

Also: I'd put Solo ahead of any of the three Lucas garbage Prequels.
 
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