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(AZCentral)   GOP candidate who lost AZ race for attorney general sues, loses. "Their major problem is they still don't have any facts to support their lawsuit"   (azcentral.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Republican National Committee, Law, Arizona, Judge, Trial, Republican Party, Dan Barr, general candidate Abe Hamadeh  
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2412 clicks; posted to Politics » on 30 Nov 2022 at 12:46 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-11-30 10:17:31 AM  
Since when do Republicans need facts?
 
2022-11-30 10:21:09 AM  
They have faith, not facts!
 
2022-11-30 10:21:12 AM  
Well, if that's the level of legal skills that Hamedeh has, AZ absolutely dodged a bullet by not making that clown their AG.
 
2022-11-30 10:35:53 AM  
I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that would indeed be a major problem.
 
2022-11-30 11:15:11 AM  
The merits of the lawsuit still stand don't exist.

FTFY
 
2022-11-30 12:01:49 PM  
Their major problem is that their world views don't align with the rest of sane, rational Americans, and as a shrinking portion of society, they have to resort to all sorts of rat-farkery to remain in power.
 
2022-11-30 12:10:23 PM  
So they're pounding the table?
 
2022-11-30 12:22:36 PM  
Yes indeed. Their inability to confront objective reality IS Republican's "major problem."
 
2022-11-30 12:47:56 PM  
Disbarment should be on the table for bad faith lawsuits
 
2022-11-30 12:48:41 PM  
But it feels like we should have won!
 
2022-11-30 12:49:28 PM  
So rather than change the things that cost them elections, Republicans intend to just sue everyone forever just out of spite? That's the plan?!
Ha.
Haha.
Ha.
 
2022-11-30 12:49:52 PM  

dr_blasto: Well, if that's the level of legal skills that Hamedeh has, AZ absolutely dodged a bullet by not making that clown their AG.


It ain't over yet.
 
2022-11-30 12:50:06 PM  
Or their policy decisions, their basis for reality....ad nauseum.
 
2022-11-30 12:50:07 PM  
Isn't he a bit... ethnic to be a Republican?
 
2022-11-30 12:50:56 PM  
Every dollar that Republicans spend on lawyers and lawsuits is a dollar they're not spending on elections.
 
2022-11-30 12:55:55 PM  
Of course the judge is ignoring the indisputable fact that the Democrat got more votes, which automatically means the election was fraudulent and the Republican wins by default. Just facts here.

/This is all covered in Republican Electoral Derp 101
 
2022-11-30 12:56:36 PM  
They are really hoping the fact that Republicans have controlled who gets on the state courts for quite some time will bail them out.  But so far I have not seen an indication the courts are interested in entertaining wild conspiracy theories.
 
2022-11-30 12:58:50 PM  
He's suing before the automatic recount?
 
2022-11-30 12:59:51 PM  
Wonder how long they'll keep playing this card.

Not exactly like Conservatives are notorious for changing and adapting to new information, so I figure we got at least the 2024 election which, calling it now, will be "Stolen" from TFG
 
2022-11-30 1:00:03 PM  

Dodo David: Since when do Republicans need facts?


They have Alternative Facts but those don't stand up in court.
 
2022-11-30 1:02:06 PM  
The only fact they need is this:  If a democrat wins, fraud was committed.

And anyone who doubts that is a far-left beta cuck who majored in Lesbian Dance Theory.
 
2022-11-30 1:02:14 PM  
GOP:  Fact-free and proud of it.
 
2022-11-30 1:03:51 PM  
FFS sake American legal system - SANCTION THESE FARKERS when they waste our resources with these bad-faith suits.
 
2022-11-30 1:05:37 PM  

LovesToSpooge: But it feels like we should have won!


White people not winning outright is prima facia evidence of liberal cheating.
 
2022-11-30 1:07:45 PM  
[runs for office, loses]
"Illegitimate election!!!"
[sues over election, loses]
"Illegitimate court!!!"
 
2022-11-30 1:12:55 PM  
I thought republicans were against the idea of participation awards?
 
2022-11-30 1:13:35 PM  
Well I see we've reached the post-democracy stage of America where Republicans simply don't see the need to win elections anymore.  Or as Juan Peron says in "Evita":

♫ How annoying that we have to fight elections for our cause
The inconvenience, having to get a majority
If normal methods of persuasion fail to win us applause
There are other ways of establishing authority ♫
 
2022-11-30 1:14:37 PM  
Feelings 
Nothing more than feelings 
Trying to forget my feelings of being a lying liar
 
2022-11-30 1:15:33 PM  
If you'd just let him have Hunter Biden's laptop, I'm sure he could show you all the evidence you would need.
 
2022-11-30 1:23:29 PM  

Myk-House of El: They are really hoping the fact that Republicans have controlled who gets on the state courts for quite some time will bail them out.  But so far I have not seen an indication the courts are interested in entertaining wild conspiracy theories.


Well, except Judge Cannon.
 
2022-11-30 1:29:45 PM  
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2022-11-30 1:31:40 PM  
Can we just quit it with these losers already
 
2022-11-30 1:36:25 PM  
Remember when republicans used to whine incessantly about frivolous lawsuits and the need for tort reform? Sounds like we need to implement some new rules to reduce all these frivolous post-election lawsuits. May I suggest capital punishment as the penalty?
 
2022-11-30 1:38:10 PM  

NateAsbestos: Myk-House of El: They are really hoping the fact that Republicans have controlled who gets on the state courts for quite some time will bail them out.  But so far I have not seen an indication the courts are interested in entertaining wild conspiracy theories.

Well, except Judge Cannon.


Judge Cannon is not a part of the Arizona state court system to which I was referring.  There may well be a Judge Cannon type there, but so far hasn't been seen.
 
2022-11-30 1:41:44 PM  
The major problem is they don't know what "facts" are.

They've been told for at least 20 years that "facts" are what they "feel" and "believe."

So of course they have a problem with a court of law, which insists on stupid actual facts and reality.
 
2022-11-30 1:45:59 PM  

Weaver95: Every dollar that Republicans spend on lawyers and lawsuits is a dollar they're not spending on elections.


The money serves election purposes far more than winning lawsuits.  They know they'll lose in court.  Publicizing cases gives them the "where there's smoke" argument.  It works quite well.  Most MAGAts use the volume of cases as their core evidence that "something is amiss".  Similar to the Hillary is guilty of something argument.  The non-MAGAts use it as fluff in their grey-area support of "election integrity" each time they're up for election.

The court costs are tiny compared to election spending.  Filing a shiatty brief and appearing with a half-baked argument that gets thrown out during the first hearing is cheap.  Couple thousand dollars, tops.  If they decide to do it 500 times across the country generally copying the same PR talking points, it costs around $1M total.  Drop in the bucket.

But they have fodder for the election cycle that hundreds of lawsuits were filed, and every one of them got thrown out.... you know, further evidence of the deep state conspiracy to hide the truth.  They can use that ~$1M in spending in literally thousands of elections at every level.  I'm not saying it's a great strategy, but it's cost effective.
 
2022-11-30 1:53:42 PM  

Vacation Bible School: I thought republicans were against the idea of participation awards?


Whatever gave you that idea?

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No, seriously, why would you even think that?
 
2022-11-30 1:54:49 PM  

NateAsbestos: Yes indeed. Their inability to confront objective reality IS Republican's "major problem."



This as much as anything else is why I can't imagine supporting a Republican these days.

Sure, they're all hateful bigots, too, and that's also disqualifying, but their inability to live in the same reality as the entire rest of the world (except, suspiciously, other places where far right propaganda has been spread) is almost amazing.

I do get it, though.  That sort of mentality is rewarded in the corporate world, where you look "strong" if you stick to your guns even when demonstrably wrong and you look "weak" if you ever aren't 100% confident in something you're saying.  "I don't know" is never the correct answer.

Standard corporate BS reply to that is, "The real correct answer is, 'I don't know, but I'll find out,'" but that isn't always feasible, particularly after an analysis has already been done and the results were inconclusive.

One of my rules for finding a place to work is that I need to have a sense of whether my immediate boss will have this mentality or not.  If so, I don't want to work there.
 
2022-11-30 2:04:57 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: The only fact they need is this:  If a democrat wins, fraud was committed.

And anyone who doubts that is a far-left beta cuck who majored in Lesbian Dance Theory.


It is no longer a theory. It has been proven scientifically that lesbians do indeed dance. And very well.
 
2022-11-30 2:12:52 PM  

WordsnCollision: Dodo David: Since when do Republicans need facts?

They have Alternative Facts but those don't stand up in court.


They do if they appoint Alternative Judges.
 
2022-11-30 2:24:02 PM  
'We've got lots of theories. We just don't have evidence'
 
2022-11-30 2:32:36 PM  
That's the great thing about conspiracy theories. The lack of facts just reinforces that there had to be a conspiracy.
 
2022-11-30 2:38:22 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: dr_blasto: Well, if that's the level of legal skills that Hamedeh has, AZ absolutely dodged a bullet by not making that clown their AG.

It ain't over yet.


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First, we have to beat the results out of Cochise County. Then, a legally mandated recount since MoV is so close.

Then it'll be over.

/ And he'll still have lost
 
2022-11-30 3:34:52 PM  
Actually, their major problem as I see ity is that it isn't even final yet, so as TRFA states, they're filing this prematurely. How can you file a lawsuit for a recount while the farking recount is ongoing? I mean, this is only slightly less stupid than if they had filed this before the election even took place.
 
2022-11-30 3:37:40 PM  

Mikey1969: Actually, their major problem as I see ity is that it isn't even final yet, so as TRFA states, they're filing this prematurely. How can you file a lawsuit for a recount while the farking recount is ongoing? I mean, this is only slightly less stupid than if they had filed this before the election even took place.


Because the lawsuit isn't about winning anything in court.  It's about fundraising.  They can shiat it out in a press release on their mailing lists to their rubes and rake in more money.
 
2022-11-30 5:27:59 PM  
If you have the law, pound the law. If you have facts, pound the facts. If you have neither, pound your head on the table.
 
2022-11-30 6:00:25 PM  

RodneyToady: I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that would indeed be a major problem.


Confirming, as a lawyer, that it is indeed a problem.
 
2022-11-30 6:29:55 PM  
Fark this assclown and the rest of the GQP losers in this state.
 
2022-11-30 11:06:40 PM  

CivilizedTiger: JimmyTheHutt: dr_blasto: Well, if that's the level of legal skills that Hamedeh has, AZ absolutely dodged a bullet by not making that clown their AG.

It ain't over yet.

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First, we have to beat the results out of Cochise County. Then, a legally mandated recount since MoV is so close.

Then it'll be over.

/ And he'll still have lost


Cochise county results may be skipped thanks to the GOP refusing to certify the election.
 
2022-12-01 4:46:53 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Cochise county results may be skipped thanks to the GOP refusing to certify the election.


Not gonna happen.

Hobbs has filed suit, courts will say hey you don't get a choice you're certifying, it'll be certified.

It'd be hilarious if they managed to overturn Ciscomani and Horne's wins (and good for the state), but it would also be wrong, and fairly clearly can't happen legally.
 
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