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(Guardian)   Disestablishmentarians say statistics suggest antidisestablishmentarianism is on the decline   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2022-11-30 6:32:46 AM  
Spelling Bee
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Not always apropos, but any excuse to post Meryn Cadell must be taken.
 
2022-11-30 6:47:42 AM  
Good. Theocracies are bad.

/ and before people start making pithy comments, Israel was not founded as a theocracy. Israel was founded by secular atheists who defined Judaism as an ethnicity. But the way Israel's incoming government is looking, it might actually start to become a theocracy
 
2022-11-30 8:52:30 AM  
What a bunch of floccinaucinihilipilificators.
 
2022-11-30 8:52:56 AM  
I would pay good money, to a charity, to see Palin, MTG or Boebert explain this...
 
2022-11-30 8:55:38 AM  
People make choices to keep their kids safe from rapists with lawyers.
 
2022-11-30 8:56:58 AM  
Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?
 
2022-11-30 8:57:11 AM  
"The fastest-rising religious identity is Shamanism."

Oh yah.  We all have seen that picture.
 
2022-11-30 8:57:35 AM  
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2022-11-30 8:57:36 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I would pay good money, to a charity, to see Palin, MTG or Boebert explain this...


They're certainly not gonna admit that many so-called Christians are nothing but hypocritical assholes who are only in it for the grift.
 
2022-11-30 8:58:07 AM  

LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?


You pass the sanity test. Too bad so many fail it.
 
2022-11-30 8:59:32 AM  

Nick Nostril: [Fark user image 600x700]


"Don't Let Dorothy Where The Good Lord Split You"?
 
2022-11-30 8:59:33 AM  
But without The Church of England how can they justify having a King?

oh, wait.
 
2022-11-30 9:00:22 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I would pay good money, to a charity, to see Palin, MTG or Boebert explain this...


"Potatoes and gentlemen, WHAAAR and GAAARBL to you all. I come to you to reveal a sinister and Satanic plot by globalists and brown pe immigrants and socialists to turn the Seat of Modernity into a multicultural hellhole. We all knew about the daily bombings and nuclear explosions riddling Those Parts of London, but now it seems those forces of Evil have succeeded in wiping JEEEZUSSS's name from the mouths of all Britain.

"Now Jerusalem will never be bilded there on England's green and pleasant land, and it's all THEIR fault!"

"My brothers in Christ, now is the time to join hands and mobilize to seize all of George Soros' ill-gotten gains and redistribute them to those in need!"

// meaning, of course, the Russian defense budget
 
2022-11-30 9:01:24 AM  
For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.
 
2022-11-30 9:03:29 AM  
Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.
 
2022-11-30 9:04:57 AM  
Please tell me there's a series in the works where a Muslim family emigrates to Wales and then hilarity ensues

If the title isn't "The Caliph of Cardiff" then I'll retire my BBC iPlayer
 
2022-11-30 9:05:04 AM  

zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.



You probably should quit saying it then.
 
2022-11-30 9:06:58 AM  

Call the Guy: Please tell me there's a series in the works where a Muslim family emigrates to Wales and then hilarity ensues


Close.

Little Mosque on the Prairie (TV Series 2007-2012) - IMDb
A satirical view at a Muslim community living in Mercy, Saskatchewan, Canada.
 
2022-11-30 9:07:17 AM  

sniderman: Nick Nostril: [Fark user image 600x700]

"Don't Let Dorothy Where The Good Lord Split You"?


No, no, they're fine with lesbians.
 
2022-11-30 9:07:33 AM  
Obligatory for this thread:
Why there is no way back for religion in the West | David Voas | TEDxUniversityofEssex
Youtube YtAR_OGzlcg


THIS is already happening in U.S. as well. I hope to see the day that candidates for office defame their opponent due to their association with a religion, when candidates openly distance themselves from childish beliefs.
 
2022-11-30 9:07:55 AM  

karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.


People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.
 
2022-11-30 9:09:33 AM  
The whole thing is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
 
2022-11-30 9:10:37 AM  

LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?


Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.
 
2022-11-30 9:14:43 AM  

Weaver95: LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?

Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.


lol.

Would someone who isn't ignored by this loon please laugh at him for us please?
 
2022-11-30 9:16:40 AM  

Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.



If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?
 
2022-11-30 9:16:44 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I would pay good money, to a charity, to see Palin, MTG or Boebert explain this...


"Christianity is under attack!"

I take venmo
 
2022-11-30 9:17:13 AM  

karnal: Aren't all religions bad?


Smartest thing you've ever said on this site. Good job!
 
2022-11-30 9:18:58 AM  

karnal: Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.


If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?


No, not all religion is bad. Authoritarian religions are ALWAYS toxic, and christianity is very much a toxic religion. I'm glad people are walking away from it. They'll be better off without christianity.
 
2022-11-30 9:19:28 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Weaver95: LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?

Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.

lol.

Would someone who isn't ignored by this loon please laugh at him for us please?


No. I have issues with the hyperbole but the point stands: Xians are the Trumps of religion, everything Christianity touches dies
 
2022-11-30 9:20:24 AM  

Call the Guy: NuclearPenguins: Weaver95: LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?

Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.

lol.

Would someone who isn't ignored by this loon please laugh at him for us please?

No. I have issues with the hyperbole but the point stands: Xians are the Trumps of religion, everything Christianity touches dies


It's 2022. Belief in the supernatural isn't a good thing, nor is it something to be proud of.
 
2022-11-30 9:21:12 AM  

ssa5: Obligatory for this thread:
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YtAR_OGzlcg]

THIS is already happening in U.S. as well. I hope to see the day that candidates for office defame their opponent due to their association with a religion, when candidates openly distance themselves from childish beliefs.


Google "Obama, Barack" and "Kennedy, John Fitzgerald" for historical examples of candidates being defamed by their opponents based on (perceived) religious beliefs. Didn't some of the Founders trade "he's a secret atheist!" barbs?

But instead, how about we check whether their religion is personal or evangelical? That's the real enchilada, not what they do while meditating (even if they call it "prayer"). Like, Pete Buttigieg is as Catholic as Mike Pence is, but I really don't worry that Pete's Catholicism* is going to wind up with me at an auto-da-fé.

// it's what you ought not to do, but do anyway
// I forget which commie said it, but "how many gods a man believes in neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg" (Jefferson, IIRC) - it's when The Faithful write laws to allow them (and only them) to break legs and pick pockets that we have a real damn problem, and that's not really restricted to religious nutters (see also "Trump, Donald")
* although he's technically Anglican now? Whatever, who farking cares what flavor of Jesus you put on your cornflakes...
 
2022-11-30 9:21:24 AM  

Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.


The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.
 
2022-11-30 9:21:43 AM  

Weaver95: karnal: Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.


If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?

No, not all religion is bad. Authoritarian religions are ALWAYS toxic, and christianity is very much a toxic religion. I'm glad people are walking away from it. They'll be better off without christianity.


You should work us all up a list of the good and bad religions available....if I have to go shopping around I would like to be educated by someone of your caliber.
 
2022-11-30 9:23:58 AM  

Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.


Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.
 
2022-11-30 9:24:11 AM  
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2022-11-30 9:24:50 AM  

karnal: Weaver95: karnal: Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.


If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?

No, not all religion is bad. Authoritarian religions are ALWAYS toxic, and christianity is very much a toxic religion. I'm glad people are walking away from it. They'll be better off without christianity.

You should work us all up a list of the good and bad religions available....if I have to go shopping around I would like to be educated by someone of your caliber.


So what I'm hearing is that you are too dumb to think for yourself and need someone else to tell you what to believe.
🤷‍♀
 
2022-11-30 9:26:29 AM  

Weaver95: karnal: Weaver95: karnal: Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.


If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?

No, not all religion is bad. Authoritarian religions are ALWAYS toxic, and christianity is very much a toxic religion. I'm glad people are walking away from it. They'll be better off without christianity.

You should work us all up a list of the good and bad religions available....if I have to go shopping around I would like to be educated by someone of your caliber.

So what I'm hearing is that you are too dumb to think for yourself and need someone else to tell you what to believe.
🤷‍♀



I got to imagine our lists would be very different.
 
2022-11-30 9:26:41 AM  

karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.


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2022-11-30 9:26:52 AM  

Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.

Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.


Thanks! I'll need it. It's hard to get people who believe in magic to stop.
 
2022-11-30 9:28:40 AM  

Tranquil Hegemony: What a bunch of floccinaucinihilipilificators.


Necrohippoflagellators?
 
2022-11-30 9:31:26 AM  

Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.

Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.

Thanks! I'll need it. It's hard to get people who believe in magic to stop.


Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.

Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.

Thanks! I'll need it. It's hard to get people who believe in magic to stop.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2022-11-30 9:31:39 AM  

Weaver95: LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?

Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.


Christianity didn't destroy Rome.
History Summarized: The Fall of Rome
Youtube VuMcxthzZk0
 
2022-11-30 9:32:07 AM  
No matter how hard they try others will fight harder to preserve the church. Posted by an Australian but it's considered rude to point it out.

Monty Python Church
Youtube EmgEffbtdOY
 
2022-11-30 9:32:16 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Weaver95: LL316: Am I crazy or do the lives of citizens improve as a country move further away from theocratic rule?

Pagans developed steam engines and analog computers at least a thousand years before christianity was even a glimmer of a thought. They also developed democracy, built roads, cities, trade routes...
Then Christianity destroyed the Roman empire and everyone got screwed over for 2000 years.

Christianity didn't destroy Rome.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/VuMcxthzZk0]


But he feels that it did, and that's all that matters to people who think magic is an actual real thing.
 
2022-11-30 9:32:31 AM  

karnal: I got to imagine our lists would be very different.


What a weird thing to say
 
2022-11-30 9:33:31 AM  

Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.

Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.

Thanks! I'll need it. It's hard to get people who believe in magic to stop.


Work tech support for a year. You'll understand that people will NEVER stop believing in magic.
 
2022-11-30 9:33:54 AM  

LeftisRightisWrong: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

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2022-11-30 9:35:54 AM  

karnal: Weaver95: karnal: Weaver95: karnal: zetar: For years I have been saying: If you want to know where America is going look where England has been.


You probably should quit saying it then.

People are tired of the abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements of the christian religion. It's no mystery why christianity is in decline.


If you think "abuse, hypocrisy and toxic elements" only lie in the belly of religion, you need to get out more.....I also noticed you just singled out christian religion. Aren't all religions bad?

No, not all religion is bad. Authoritarian religions are ALWAYS toxic, and christianity is very much a toxic religion. I'm glad people are walking away from it. They'll be better off without christianity.

You should work us all up a list of the good and bad religions available....if I have to go shopping around I would like to be educated by someone of your caliber.


The Sikhs, in general, are pretty decent, although I don't agree with their position on pre-marital relationships. But they don't believe in a personal god, and they have the largest free food kitchen in the world.
 
2022-11-30 9:36:06 AM  

Weaver95: karnal: I got to imagine our lists would be very different.

What a weird thing to say


You know what they say, "When the going gets weird......"
 
2022-11-30 9:37:15 AM  

Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Petroleum Oligarch: Weaver95: Good.
The world needs less Christianity, not more. Let's hope that religion continues to decline.

The world needs less religion.  Period.  All of them.

Good luck with that. I'll settle for seeing authoritarian christian churches abandoned and forgotten.

Thanks! I'll need it. It's hard to get people who believe in magic to stop.

Work tech support for a year. You'll understand that people will NEVER stop believing in magic.


"Turn it off and on again" is a KIND of magic...

// 20 years in tech
 
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