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2022-11-30 5:28:16 AM  
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2022-11-30 5:52:38 AM  
In the end, all of Elon's companies will end up in a hole. Just like his dad's but without the blood emeralds.
/Sadly, the manbaby will still come out with billions.
 
2022-11-30 6:20:13 AM  
He keeps claiming hes gonna tunnel under Austin. It's all porous limestone aquifers, so...
 
2022-11-30 7:40:31 AM  
Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.
 
2022-11-30 7:52:57 AM  

question_dj: He keeps claiming hes gonna tunnel under Austin. It's all porous limestone aquifers, so...


May he be the first to drive through it.
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2022-11-30 7:54:11 AM  
The idiot in charge (apparently) is too busy tweeting to get any real work done.
he's probably forgotten all about them as well.
 
2022-11-30 7:56:22 AM  
There will be tunnels connecting LA to New York in a year!
 
2022-11-30 7:58:46 AM  

born_yesterday: There will be tunnels connecting LA to New York in a year!


We'll send some Big Dig experts from Boston to "help"
 
2022-11-30 7:59:58 AM  

born_yesterday: There will be tunnels connecting LA to New York in a year!


Never forget the Alameda-Weehawken Burrito Tunnel. The technology is real, and it's spectacular.
 
2022-11-30 8:01:18 AM  
It's always the same story with Musk.

X.com "I'm going to create a bank that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Tesla "I'm going to create a car that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Solar whatever "I'm going to create solar power that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Space-X "I'm going to create a rocket that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Boring "I'm going to create a tunnel digging machine that is dramatically cheaper and better."

The only time it worked was when the competition was lethargic and obese after years of cost plus government contracts.

He basically said the same about Twitter and is reaping those consequences at an accelerated pace.
 
2022-11-30 8:09:02 AM  
Original WSJ article here:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/elon-musks-boring-company-ghosts-cities-across-america/ar-AA14EscC

Wile E.lon Coyote, Super Genius, is full of shiat and disdainful of mass transit. Small vehicles moving a small number of people around is all he can envision.
 
2022-11-30 8:18:58 AM  
"And it's the Boring Company, so Elon Musk brings that kind of sexiness to it, if you will."

Guess the bloom's off the apple. Phony Stark's no longer "sexy," the Boring projects didn't materialize, and folks who formerly sang his praises are now asking questions.

"While I'm disappointed we're not in design at this point and headed towards construction, I'm grateful for the disruption that I think got us going in a really viable direction," she said.

The problem with "disruption" as a business model is that you're supposed to follow it up with a coalesced, improved order. All this asshole does is break shiat, then claim credit when others restore order...
 
2022-11-30 8:20:59 AM  
The Elizabeth Line opened recently, marking the completion of the Crossrail project to improve east-west transport links into and across London.

It finished late and over budget.

However, despite it being one of the most mind-bendingly complex tunneling jobs imaginable, it wasn't tunneling that caused the delays. They were due to late finalising of the signaling system specifications and the complexity of the stations construction works programmes. Turns out carrying out multiple simultaneous building projects in busy urban environments with no space and hugely restrictive requirements for access is super complicated.

But I'm sure Elon will manage it, he seems like a very organised guy.
 
2022-11-30 8:21:44 AM  
Um, subways? He's invented a nonfunctional subway? Omg Elon is dumb.
 
2022-11-30 8:22:22 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: It's always the same story with Musk.

X.com "I'm going to create a bank that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Tesla "I'm going to create a car that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Solar whatever "I'm going to create solar power that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Space-X "I'm going to create a rocket that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Boring "I'm going to create a tunnel digging machine that is dramatically cheaper and better."

The only time it worked was when the competition was lethargic and obese after years of cost plus government contracts.

He basically said the same about Twitter and is reaping those consequences at an accelerated pace.


My observation is that it only works when someone other than Musk creates the product.  The ones that die on the vine are Musk creations.
 
2022-11-30 8:30:18 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: The Elizabeth Line opened recently, marking the completion of the Crossrail project to improve east-west transport links into and across London.

It finished late and over budget.

However, despite it being one of the most mind-bendingly complex tunneling jobs imaginable, it wasn't tunneling that caused the delays. They were due to late finalising of the signaling system specifications and the complexity of the stations construction works programmes. Turns out carrying out multiple simultaneous building projects in busy urban environments with no space and hugely restrictive requirements for access is super complicated.

But I'm sure Elon will manage it, he seems like a very organised guy.


1. Hardcore
2. Dense and intense
3. Profit!!!
 
2022-11-30 8:34:31 AM  
Elon Musk's Boring company has traffic jams.
Youtube UBZye8pW4vw
 
2022-11-30 8:38:58 AM  
We'll go into space! We'll dig underground! Global, free internet! Self-driving cars!

Does Elon have ADHD? He's can start ... strike that ... TAKE OVER but not finish.
 
2022-11-30 8:40:33 AM  
Icarus finally got too close to the sun.
 
2022-11-30 8:45:50 AM  
In short, the Boring Company promised a revolution in the tunnel-boring space, dramatically bringing down not only the costs involved but how long it takes to dig a tunnel as well. So far, though, we have yet to see any signs of that vision materializing in a meaningful way, even six years after Musk founded the company.

Are you suggesting that Elon overpromised and underdelivered?

Tunnels are useless anyway.  In one year, I'll be driving my Cybertruck.
 
2022-11-30 8:46:18 AM  
Elon founded tunnels!

He is the jeanyus of are generator!
 
2022-11-30 8:51:45 AM  
There's a difference between ghosting and just being rejected.
 
2022-11-30 8:55:06 AM  
Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring
Youtube DnvFOaBoieE
 
2022-11-30 8:56:10 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: It's always the same story with Musk.

X.com "I'm going to create a bank that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Tesla "I'm going to create a car that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Solar whatever "I'm going to create solar power that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Space-X "I'm going to create a rocket that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Boring "I'm going to create a tunnel digging machine that is dramatically cheaper and better."

The only time it worked was-


Gotta stop you there, none of that worked
 
2022-11-30 9:00:19 AM  
You still can't purchase Musk's photoelectric roof shingles.
 
2022-11-30 9:08:02 AM  
To be fair, it's hard to get back to people about your tunnel project when half of your staff has been drafted to write code for Twitter.
 
2022-11-30 9:08:51 AM  
Everyone's complaining about things like "results". Today's business isn't about that, and Elon completely understands that. It's about hyping futuristic projects and goals for funding, and then moving on to another project when the country is bored with the news of actual project development.
 
2022-11-30 9:15:00 AM  
I wanted to see him.tunnel under New Orleans
 
2022-11-30 9:20:43 AM  
Another tunnel project, aiming to connect Baltimore to Washington, was also seemingly abandoned by the Boring Company, which no longer makes any reference to the project on its website.

It would probably be cheaper to build up than under is you wanted to add an additional level to double the amount of traffic corridor that can handle.  We've been building causeways over more challenging stretches than the mid-Atlantic, I-95 corridor.
 
2022-11-30 9:25:13 AM  
I am beginning to think this Musky character isn't the brilliant businessman he claims to be and is nothing more than ADHD Elizabeth Holmes with testicles and less eye liner.
 
2022-11-30 9:27:06 AM  

chitownmike: Mr. Eugenides: It's always the same story with Musk.

X.com "I'm going to create a bank that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Tesla "I'm going to create a car that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Solar whatever "I'm going to create solar power that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Space-X "I'm going to create a rocket that is dramatically cheaper and better."

Boring "I'm going to create a tunnel digging machine that is dramatically cheaper and better."

The only time it worked was-

Gotta stop you there, none of that worked


Well, not quite

SpaceX is an unqualified success- it is dramatically cheaper and better.  It also benefitted from a business environment that was a complete disaster, with a few government-sponsored pork launchers (ULA, Arianespace) and a bunch of cheaper legacy tech (Russians) that weren't remotely competitive against a modern clean-sheet design.  It's continuing to benefit from utterly incompetent competitors (BlueOrigin) and government pride projects that were never supposed to compete on price.

Tesla was better than existing electric cars, albeit not cheaper.  The better is rapidly slipping away since unlike space flight, there are a lot of cutthroat competitors that already understand how to build cars and Tesla is too busy putting yokes in place of steering wheels and better fart sound packages to keep up with the pack.

The rest should be landfilled.
 
2022-11-30 9:27:29 AM  

hubiestubert: To be fair, it's hard to get back to people about your tunnel project when half of your staff has been drafted to write code for Twitter.


Oh, we've been assured by only the best right-wing jobbie-sniffers that it just takes Elon and 50 others to run all of Twitter - that the others were simply superfluous, liberal simps unable to go hard and eager to go home.

Seriously, the federal government needs to take a much closer, much harder look at the various subsidies & contracts given to Elon Musk's companies.
 
2022-11-30 9:45:11 AM  

MikeLWeaver: Um, subways? He's invented a nonfunctional subway? Omg Elon is dumb.


No he "invented"  the transportation system Heinlein imagined for a lunar colony in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and didn't realize that the moon's 1/6th gravity and lack of an atmosphere to create friction were key to making the system work
 
2022-11-30 9:51:35 AM  
I read this same article on another site that allowed comments and wow - the Elon sycophants were in rare form. My favorite was them agreeing with Musk that the reason nothing is happening is due to governments with their pesky permits and environmental regulations and they should just give Musk free reign to do all his magical stupid ideas.
 
2022-11-30 10:03:56 AM  

Muta: You still can't purchase Musk's photoelectric roof shingles.


cos they never existed
 
2022-11-30 10:07:13 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In short, the Boring Company promised a revolution in the tunnel-boring space, dramatically bringing down not only the costs involved but how long it takes to dig a tunnel as well. So far, though, we have yet to see any signs of that vision materializing in a meaningful way, even six years after Musk founded the company.


See, this is what I don't get. Elon bought a used TBM when he started The Boring Company.

"Last week, Musk admitted that "they don't really know what they are doing" when it comes to digging holes, but he sees an opportunity to significantly increase the speed of making tunnels.

"According to his own estimate, a 5 to 10x increase in speed is possible"

Se we went from the company knowing fark-all about digging tunnels to buying a used tunnel machine and thinking "hey, we could maybe just dig 10x faster than those guys who actually know what they're doing"

genius move, dude
 
2022-11-30 10:36:10 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.


From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?
 
2022-11-30 10:39:19 AM  

thornhill: Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.

From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?


It didn't have to be believable.  It was good press.  The Mayor of Miami and DeSantis are both fame hungry and so they loved to "have talks" with Elon about his Miami tunnel ideas.  It generates buzz.
 
2022-11-30 10:48:44 AM  
A lot of pedophiles in this comment section.
 
2022-11-30 11:26:51 AM  

Ray_Finkle: A lot of pedophiles in this comment section.


Elon did the rescue, boring company dug all those tunnels, SpaceX made the under-water rockets and tesla made the energy.
That pedo guy was arrested for doing pedo stuff in Thailand and is in jail rotting.

// learn the truth!!!
 
2022-11-30 12:03:43 PM  

Rapmaster2000: thornhill: Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.

From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?

It didn't have to be believable.  It was good press.  The Mayor of Miami and DeSantis are both fame hungry and so they loved to "have talks" with Elon about his Miami tunnel ideas.  It generates buzz.


Tunnels in Miami? How can anyone think that's a good idea?
 
2022-11-30 12:15:59 PM  

batlock666: Rapmaster2000: thornhill: Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.

From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?

It didn't have to be believable.  It was good press.  The Mayor of Miami and DeSantis are both fame hungry and so they loved to "have talks" with Elon about his Miami tunnel ideas.  It generates buzz.

Tunnels in Miami? How can anyone think that's a good idea?


People in Miami can't have basements, because the whole damn city is built on oolite. Which is porous to the point of just flooding anything remotely like a basement, and makes foundations tricky as heck to sink in the area.

People want to tunnel through this stuff? Are the planning on turning every car into a submarine?
 
2022-11-30 12:27:04 PM  

batlock666: Rapmaster2000: thornhill: Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.

From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?

It didn't have to be believable.  It was good press.  The Mayor of Miami and DeSantis are both fame hungry and so they loved to "have talks" with Elon about his Miami tunnel ideas.  It generates buzz.

Tunnels in Miami? How can anyone think that's a good idea?


Seems pretty Miami thinking to me. Look for a quick fix and never address the real issue while ignoring all the problems of the quick fix.
 
2022-11-30 12:56:14 PM  
This dude's ideas universally suck ass.
 
2022-11-30 1:24:00 PM  
Elon Musk oversold and underdelivered on a promise? I'm going to have to sit down!
 
2022-11-30 1:26:48 PM  

batlock666: Rapmaster2000: thornhill: Pocket Ninja: Such an informative article. I'm surprised they were able to secure all those interviews with Boring Company executives to explain what's going on and what the future might hold. I also wonder how many FOIA requests they had to file to procure all that documentation. It's nice to see reel journalism in action.

From the original WSJ article:

Mr. Musk and Steve Davis, president of Boring, didn't respond to requests for comment.

The fact that they wouldn't comment on why all of the proposed projects have gone up in smoke is their answer to what happened.

The whole company was basically vaporware.

They built a 1.7 mile tunnel in Vegas and 1.1 mile tunnel in California, and some how from that they were going to springboard to building 35 mile long tunnels under cities with 250 years worth of infrastructure to navigate around? And that was believable because Elon puts rockets into space?

It didn't have to be believable.  It was good press.  The Mayor of Miami and DeSantis are both fame hungry and so they loved to "have talks" with Elon about his Miami tunnel ideas.  It generates buzz.

Tunnels in Miami? How can anyone think that's a good idea?


This is what passes for a good idea down there.

MiamiCoin, the city's own cryptocurrency, has been launched
 
2022-11-30 1:32:25 PM  

the_massive_a55hole: Rapmaster2000: In short, the Boring Company promised a revolution in the tunnel-boring space, dramatically bringing down not only the costs involved but how long it takes to dig a tunnel as well. So far, though, we have yet to see any signs of that vision materializing in a meaningful way, even six years after Musk founded the company.

See, this is what I don't get. Elon bought a used TBM when he started The Boring Company.

"Last week, Musk admitted that "they don't really know what they are doing" when it comes to digging holes, but he sees an opportunity to significantly increase the speed of making tunnels.

"According to his own estimate, a 5 to 10x increase in speed is possible"

Se we went from the company knowing fark-all about digging tunnels to buying a used tunnel machine and thinking "hey, we could maybe just dig 10x faster than those guys who actually know what they're doing"

genius move, dude


A.J Frost assured him it could be done!
 
2022-11-30 1:33:01 PM  

hubiestubert: To be fair, it's hard to get back to people about your tunnel project when half of your staff has been drafted to write code for Twitter.


"Instructions unclear; dug tunnel under Twitter HQ."
 
2022-11-30 1:38:39 PM  
If his small bore tunnel technology was valid, it would be of use to make infrastructure. We need tunnels to plumb sewers and water mains to expand city services to build new places. There is a demand beyond bad transportation options, but I don't see people jumping to dig a new 30 mile long 36" water line.
 
2022-11-30 1:44:44 PM  
It's all fun and games until you wake up the Crab People.
 
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