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(CBS News)   If a tree falls in the forest, and only a meth-head is around, does it make a sound?   (cbsnews.com) divider line
    More: Strange, Heroin, Thailand, Southeast Asia, Burma, Buddhist temple, Shan, central Thailand, Methamphetamine  
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2673 clicks; posted to Main » on 30 Nov 2022 at 1:41 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-11-29 8:52:29 PM  
Don't think I'd want to spar those guys
 
2022-11-29 9:28:57 PM  
I'm assuming every damn one of them broke the vow of silence.
 
2022-11-29 9:29:01 PM  
What is the sound of one hand fapping?
 
2022-11-29 9:39:23 PM  
I wonder why the monks got tested in the first place. Is it usual to randomly drug test monks in Thailand, or were they in such tough shape that it was obvious and someone turned them in?
 
2022-11-29 10:00:50 PM  

Cafe Threads: I'm assuming every damn one of them broke the vow of silence.


Having once taken that vow,I loled
 
2022-11-29 10:05:09 PM  
"The temple is now empty of monks and nearby villagers are concerned they cannot do any merit-making," he said. Merit-making involves worshippers donating food to monks as a good deed.

Look you're just going to have to find new people to donate your meth to.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-11-29 11:33:08 PM  

Xythero: I wonder why the monks got tested in the first place. Is it usual to randomly drug test monks in Thailand, or were they in such tough shape that it was obvious and someone turned them in?


That was a key detail omitted from the article, that really bothered me, too.  Sure, they tested positive, but back up a second, what?

Also interesting was the bit about the necessity of monks so that ordinary people can follow through with their religious convictions.  Without the monks, these people are helpless.  With the monks, they're feeding birds.  A little bit more about how the government (it would appear) is cycling people around in temples would have been nice.
 
2022-11-29 11:46:04 PM  

Shostie: "The temple is now empty of monks and nearby villagers are concerned they cannot do any merit-making," he said. Merit-making involves worshippers donating food to monks as a good deed.

Look you're just going to have to find new people to donate your meth to.


 I don't share
 
2022-11-30 1:44:34 AM  
I imagine it's a bit of a challenge to meditate on meth.
 
2022-11-30 1:44:45 AM  

vudukungfu: Don't think I'd want to spar those guys


"Shao-Lin Monks on Meth" sounds like the title of an epic low-budget exploitation flick.
 
2022-11-30 1:53:10 AM  

433: Xythero: I wonder why the monks got tested in the first place. Is it usual to randomly drug test monks in Thailand, or were they in such tough shape that it was obvious and someone turned them in?

That was a key detail omitted from the article, that really bothered me, too.  Sure, they tested positive, but back up a second, what?

Also interesting was the bit about the necessity of monks so that ordinary people can follow through with their religious convictions.  Without the monks, these people are helpless.  With the monks, they're feeding birds.  A little bit more about how the government (it would appear) is cycling people around in temples would have been nice.


Yeah it's apparently that big a problem.  Do a search on Thai monks drug test excluding 2022, you still get a ton of results.  Meth is that pervasive it seems - which makes me want to stay the fark away from Thailand.  Which sucks, 'cause Thai food.  But not if the cooks keep mething up
 
2022-11-30 1:53:28 AM  
Being a monk is a spring break dealThai university students ordain as monks for one month during break for semester.

Military service for two years or be a monk for two years IIRC: don't recall exactly which country had this though.
 
2022-11-30 1:58:57 AM  

vudukungfu: Cafe Threads: I'm assuming every damn one of them broke the vow of silence.

Having once taken that vow,I loled


I'm intrigued
 
2022-11-30 2:05:42 AM  

Shostie: "The temple is now empty of monks and nearby villagers are concerned they cannot do any merit-making," he said. Merit-making involves worshippers donating food to monks as a good deed.

Look you're just going to have to find new people to donate your meth to.


Instead of donating food, donate riches.
Instead of donating to monks, donate to me.
I'll even give you a merit badge for each million you raise.
 
2022-11-30 2:15:22 AM  
Too many meditation rituals turning into naked rants, spinning the prayer scolls and banging the gongs too violently and obsessively probably tipped off any visiting monks.
 
2022-11-30 2:45:54 AM  
I thought only half-elves could be Monk/Meth-Heads.
 
2022-11-30 2:50:01 AM  
The tree or the meth-head?
 
2022-11-30 3:32:35 AM  
Monks on meth make sense.
You spend all day in silence and meditation, performing manual labour, etc.
Eventually one is bound to think "I don't feel very monkey"
So they take the meth and then the monks behave more monkey, as their title implies they should.
 
2022-11-30 3:37:50 AM  

MillionDollarMo: Monks on meth make sense.
You spend all day in silence and meditation, performing manual labour, etc.
Eventually one is bound to think "I don't feel very monkey"
So they take the meth and then the monks behave more monkey, as their title implies they should.


As someone who has never been to this sort of monkey house, so they throw poop at the visitors?
 
2022-11-30 3:38:36 AM  

Prof. Frink: MillionDollarMo: Monks on meth make sense.
You spend all day in silence and meditation, performing manual labour, etc.
Eventually one is bound to think "I don't feel very monkey"
So they take the meth and then the monks behave more monkey, as their title implies they should.

As someone who has never been to this sort of monkey house, so they throw poop at the visitors?


On meth that's normal.
 
2022-11-30 5:35:16 AM  
No, but it will probably get stolen.
 
2022-11-30 6:45:06 AM  
Thai Buddhism is weird. There is nothing in Buddhism that forbids drug use. It just reminds that intoxication is antithetical to the dharma. So it's not weird that they'd be doing drugs. It's weird they're addicted, and it's weird that it's to meth.

I guess dream yoga is more Tibetan Buddhism. Cuz those monks obviously weren't sleeping much.
 
2022-11-30 7:32:34 AM  
So now they are stuck with a bunch of naked meth-heads?
 
2022-11-30 8:33:10 AM  

question_dj: Thai Buddhism is weird. There is nothing in Buddhism that forbids drug use. It just reminds that intoxication is antithetical to the dharma. So it's not weird that they'd be doing drugs. It's weird they're addicted, and it's weird that it's to meth.

I guess dream yoga is more Tibetan Buddhism. Cuz those monks obviously weren't sleeping much.


One of the precepts that Buddhist monks vow to uphold is avoiding intoxicants. Drug use is clearly breaking that vow.
 
2022-11-30 8:38:18 AM  
Yes, it makes a sound, but that sound is "quack."
 
2022-11-30 10:54:14 AM  
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2022-11-30 11:12:35 AM  
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2022-11-30 11:49:21 AM  
Some boys in Thailand, at 13, enter the monkhood, temporarily. It is also an escape hatch for older men, such as criminals who want to hide from the cops and others who know they have done wrong and want to drop out of society. The problem with that is they can no longer support their families.
 
2022-11-30 12:58:54 PM  

Xythero: question_dj: Thai Buddhism is weird. There is nothing in Buddhism that forbids drug use. It just reminds that intoxication is antithetical to the dharma. So it's not weird that they'd be doing drugs. It's weird they're addicted, and it's weird that it's to meth.

I guess dream yoga is more Tibetan Buddhism. Cuz those monks obviously weren't sleeping much.

One of the precepts that Buddhist monks vow to uphold is avoiding intoxicants. Drug use is clearly breaking that vow.


Not every school of Buddhism requires vows of anything from the adherents. And if they do have to take a vow, it's not something that the Buddha demand, but whoever developed the school they're being initiated into. Thai monks have been doing drugs for a long time.

Buddhism doesn't give a duck if you smoke, drink, or fark. What Buddhism says is that those things are fine, until they're causing suffering.
 
2022-11-30 1:05:21 PM  

question_dj: What Buddhism says is that those things are fine, until they're causing suffering.


I used to go to a zen circle once a week on Monday nights for meditation.

I always showed up stoned.
 
2022-11-30 1:18:05 PM  

WilderKWight: Yes, it makes a sound, but that sound is "quack."


No no no.  These are meth heads, not quack heads.
 
2022-11-30 1:20:19 PM  
I expect the meth was to allow them to use Flurry of Blows more often between rests.
 
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2022-12-01 12:16:58 AM  
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Do you think I've ever written down "doing meth" before?  Where am I?
 
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