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2022-11-29 8:51:24 PM  
Yeap, that episode was both creepy and chilling as it went along. Excellent article describing the great talents of all involved in making it.
 
2022-11-29 9:10:14 PM  
That's one of the game changer stories, where the writing, direction and acting are all on a different level.

They are few and far between, but they always tell a fantastic story in a way that usually changes the series for the better.
 
2022-11-29 10:13:08 PM  
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2022-11-29 10:13:55 PM  

AirForceVet: Yeap, that episode was both creepy and chilling as it went along. Excellent article describing the great talents of all involved in making it.


THIS.

Heaven Sent is a superb episode and Peter Capaldi is superb in it; it is his best Doctor Who episode. And none of the Who episodes since have come close to equally it.

\And considering that it first aired seven years ago says everything one needs to know about the Jodie Whittaker/Chris Chibnall era.
 
2022-11-29 10:42:54 PM  

browneye: AirForceVet: Yeap, that episode was both creepy and chilling as it went along. Excellent article describing the great talents of all involved in making it.

THIS.

Heaven Sent is a superb episode and Peter Capaldi is superb in it; it is his best Doctor Who episode. And none of the Who episodes since have come close to equally it.

\And considering that it first aired seven years ago says everything one needs to know about the Jodie Whittaker/Chris Chibnall era.


That was definitely a great episode. My favorite is still Blink, though.
 
2022-11-29 11:07:20 PM  
That series also had the Zygon Invasion/Zygon Inversion, with another stellar performance by Peter Capaldi

Hell Bent was pretty great too
 
2022-11-29 11:11:16 PM  
Honestly Series 9 was one of the best nuWho series. Only "Sleep No More" and "The Woman Who Lived" were subpar
 
2022-11-29 11:51:24 PM  

labman: That was definitely a great episode. My favorite is still Blink, though.


Mine's The Doctor's Wife
 
2022-11-30 2:52:45 AM  
My favourite Doctor Who story is The Romans, with the First and Best Doctor.

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2022-11-30 4:05:17 AM  

Gordon Bennett: My favourite Doctor Who story is The Romans, with the First and Best Doctor.

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The original, you might say...
 
2022-11-30 4:10:36 AM  

calufrax: Gordon Bennett: My favourite Doctor Who story is The Romans, with the First and Best Doctor.

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The original, you might say...


Not if you know about the child that must not be mentioned.
:(
 
2022-11-30 5:56:19 AM  
The hybrid. That they wanted him to tell about. Are the Time Lord Cybermen supposed to be the hybrid?
 
2022-11-30 7:22:16 AM  
The one where his ship crashes and kills the dinosaurs?
 
2022-11-30 7:54:29 AM  
It's one of those episodes where it is compelling all the way through, but don't you dare turn your attention away for a minute, otherwise you'll be lost (like I was the first viewing).
 
2022-11-30 8:23:04 AM  
sadly...the next episode flushed the emotional heft and journey down the toilet with yet another big red button reset, rather than having the courage to keep the emotional stakes high.
 
2022-11-30 8:47:16 AM  

cocozilla: sadly...the next episode flushed the emotional heft and journey down the toilet with yet another big red button reset, rather than having the courage to keep the emotional stakes high.


Hell Bent is perhaps the worst follow-up Doctor Who episode ever. And it's all due to that farkin reset button ending.

\The hybrid was bullshait, Clara's fate was bullshait, and the mindwipe was bullshait.
 
2022-11-30 9:39:12 AM  

browneye: AirForceVet: Yeap, that episode was both creepy and chilling as it went along. Excellent article describing the great talents of all involved in making it.

THIS.

Heaven Sent is a superb episode and Peter Capaldi is superb in it; it is his best Doctor Who episode. And none of the Who episodes since have come close to equally it.

\And considering that it first aired seven years ago says everything one needs to know about the Jodie Whittaker/Chris Chibnall era.


Whittaker wasn't the problem, she's a great actress.  Chibnall had NO business running Doctor Who...He had no clue how the pacing and storytelling of the show works.  The entire Flux storyline this last year was painful, despite having some kernels of interesting stuff...
 
2022-11-30 10:15:28 AM  

FarkingChas: calufrax: Gordon Bennett: My favourite Doctor Who story is The Romans, with the First and Best Doctor.

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The original, you might say...

Not if you know about the child that must not be mentioned.
:(


Fanfic wank-trash.
 
2022-11-30 10:50:42 AM  

Tarl3k: browneye: AirForceVet: Yeap, that episode was both creepy and chilling as it went along. Excellent article describing the great talents of all involved in making it.

THIS.

Heaven Sent is a superb episode and Peter Capaldi is superb in it; it is his best Doctor Who episode. And none of the Who episodes since have come close to equally it.

\And considering that it first aired seven years ago says everything one needs to know about the Jodie Whittaker/Chris Chibnall era.

Whittaker wasn't the problem, she's a great actress.  Chibnall had NO business running Doctor Who...He had no clue how the pacing and storytelling of the show works.  The entire Flux storyline this last year was painful, despite having some kernels of interesting stuff...


This might have been my problem, I did not dislike her, but did not find her first few episodes catched my interest (something felt off with the initial companions IIRC), so I decided to just PVR the season to binge it when done, and never got around to doing so, then had to re-format the hard drive on my PVR a year later.
 
2022-11-30 11:55:53 AM  
I think as I said of Heaven Sent at the time, this isn't just a great episode of Doctor Who, this is an all time great episode of television.
 
2022-11-30 11:57:58 AM  

sjmcc13: This might have been my problem, I did not dislike her, but did not find her first few episodes catched my interest (something felt off with the initial companions IIRC), so I decided to just PVR the season to binge it when done, and never got around to doing so, then had to re-format the hard drive on my PVR a year later.


That totally makes sense.  Chibnall just didn't really write any interesting stories.  He had some kernels of good ideas, but never really took them anywhere.  There looked like there was going to be a villain who was basically a white supremacist, but that fizzled out.  Then there was a villain who was basically a Donald Trump avatar, but that didn't go anywhere either.  He had some decent *ideas*, just terrible execution.

For example, the idea of the Doctor having a trio of companions was interesting, but the characters were written so lazily that it was never interesting.  A lost few years for the show...but it looks like with RTD coming back having learned his lessons from the first time, things are looking up.
 
2022-11-30 12:07:26 PM  

Mentat: labman: That was definitely a great episode. My favorite is still Blink, though.

Mine's The Doctor's Wife


Vincent and the Doctor.
 
2022-11-30 12:35:54 PM  

cocozilla: sadly...the next episode flushed the emotional heft and journey down the toilet with yet another big red button reset, rather than having the courage to keep the emotional stakes high.


Eh, everything up to the metaphorical reset button was fine. Also any excuse for Capaldi to bring out the guitar (which he should have used way more than he did: sonic guitar anyone?)
 
2022-11-30 1:12:44 PM  

Tarl3k: sjmcc13: This might have been my problem, I did not dislike her, but did not find her first few episodes catched my interest (something felt off with the initial companions IIRC), so I decided to just PVR the season to binge it when done, and never got around to doing so, then had to re-format the hard drive on my PVR a year later.

That totally makes sense.  Chibnall just didn't really write any interesting stories.  He had some kernels of good ideas, but never really took them anywhere.  There looked like there was going to be a villain who was basically a white supremacist, but that fizzled out.  Then there was a villain who was basically a Donald Trump avatar, but that didn't go anywhere either.  He had some decent *ideas*, just terrible execution.

For example, the idea of the Doctor having a trio of companions was interesting, but the characters were written so lazily that it was never interesting.  A lost few years for the show...but it looks like with RTD coming back having learned his lessons from the first time, things are looking up.


Another reason why I tuned out during Whittaker's run is that she had three companions. If the Fifth Doctor's tenure (Peter Davison) should have taught the TPTB anything is that The Doctor should never have more than two companions. The constant challenge of trying to find something for three companions to do while the Doctor saves/recues/cures/whatever is a task the writers rarely are able to manage consistently. At one point during the Fifth Doctor's tenure, Nessa spent an entire episode (Kinda I think) in the Tardis recovering from some injury or something and the writer admitted in an interview years later that he did that because he didn't know what else to do with the character.
 
2022-11-30 1:15:02 PM  
I see it as a two-parter, so I have to judge it as a whole. I can't consider any episode great when the second half fell apart so badly.
 
2022-11-30 1:50:28 PM  
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2022-11-30 1:55:41 PM  
This is a minority opinion, but I could not stand this episode.  Way, WAY too pretentious and self-important with cringe dialog, where nothing actually happens (spoiler: it was a filler mindscape cliche all along,)  with an extremely stupid explanation that made very little sense even for the Whoniverse.  It was a waste in an already bad season.  The season following season 9 was one of the best ever from the show, but to me, this was one of the worst episodes in the abysmal depths of one of its worst seasons.
 
2022-11-30 3:08:20 PM  

Dhusk: This is a minority opinion, but I could not stand this episode.  Way, WAY too pretentious and self-important with cringe dialog, where nothing actually happens (spoiler: it was a filler mindscape cliche all along,)  with an extremely stupid explanation that made very little sense even for the Whoniverse.  It was a waste in an already bad season.  The season following season 9 was one of the best ever from the show, but to me, this was one of the worst episodes in the abysmal depths of one of its worst seasons.


That's okay, people are allowed to have terrible taste and garbage opinions...it's what makes us human. ;)
 
2022-11-30 3:29:07 PM  

browneye: cocozilla: sadly...the next episode flushed the emotional heft and journey down the toilet with yet another big red button reset, rather than having the courage to keep the emotional stakes high.

Hell Bent is perhaps the worst follow-up Doctor Who episode ever. And it's all due to that farkin reset button ending.

\The hybrid was bullshait, Clara's fate was bullshait, and the mindwipe was bullshait.


*After him going to Arcadia. The bits at the farm were still good...
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2022-11-30 3:54:11 PM  

Dhusk: extremely stupid explanation that made very little sense even for the Whoniverse.


As far as internal consistency goes, I thought it did a better job than most episodes. Moffat especially had a bad habit of doing things for the effect of it and never bothering with an explanation. The biggest flaw with this one was that it was supposed to be an interrogation. But since his actions never change between iterations, what new information would his captors glean? But to me that's nothing compared to stuff like the kiosk dummies in the space whale episode that turn their heads three times like it's a visual gag in Futurama.
 
2022-11-30 5:05:28 PM  
The article didn't mention Rachel Talalay's most notable work:

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Her direction really made the episode shine. The montage of the Doctor breaking through the wall was just beautifully done and showed the slow progress so well visually.
 
2022-11-30 8:03:23 PM  

Tranquil Hegemony: Dhusk: extremely stupid explanation that made very little sense even for the Whoniverse.

As far as internal consistency goes, I thought it did a better job than most episodes. Moffat especially had a bad habit of doing things for the effect of it and never bothering with an explanation. The biggest flaw with this one was that it was supposed to be an interrogation. But since his actions never change between iterations, what new information would his captors glean? But to me that's nothing compared to stuff like the kiosk dummies in the space whale episode that turn their heads three times like it's a visual gag in Futurama.


The time loop part wasn't an intended part of the interrogation.

The Timelords were expecting him to reveal his secrets rather than be killed, and hadn't foreseen the teleporter respawn exploit.
 
2022-11-30 8:29:28 PM  

calufrax: browneye: cocozilla: sadly...the next episode flushed the emotional heft and journey down the toilet with yet another big red button reset, rather than having the courage to keep the emotional stakes high.

Hell Bent is perhaps the worst follow-up Doctor Who episode ever. And it's all due to that farkin reset button ending.

\The hybrid was bullshait, Clara's fate was bullshait, and the mindwipe was bullshait.

*After him going to Arcadia. The bits at the farm were still good...
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Although, considering it further, the scene with him in the chambers of the high council was good, too...
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2022-11-30 8:53:38 PM  
I just recently reewatched the Smith and Capaldi episodes. Binging Dr Who is WAAAAAAAY better for following along AND truly understanding the doctor. The swing from goofy Smith to grim Capaldi really works. Now I'll have to go back and watch Eccleston and Tennant, I guess.

Whittaker just didn't really seem to be that interesting, we kinda trailed off. Should I go back and watch hers, too?
 
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