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2022-11-29 8:48:04 AM  
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I dunno, I think it's kind of catchy.
 
2022-11-29 8:56:07 AM  
Republicans seen furiously taking notes. "Why didn't we think of that," several were overheard saying.
 
2022-11-29 8:56:18 AM  
"Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."
 
2022-11-29 8:58:17 AM  
You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.
 
2022-11-29 8:58:34 AM  
The Russians are bring in riot police for their press gangs  to "enroll" men in the occupied territories to wear the Russian army uniform for an adopted Mother Russia.   There's a pattern here.
 
2022-11-29 8:59:52 AM  
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On it.
 
2022-11-29 9:05:00 AM  
I wonder if any of the Iranian players can approach the US players and ask how to defect/get asylum in the US.

I mean seriously if these are your tactics at what point if you're in a position of power in Iran you can't self reflect and say... maybe we're the bad guys?

On the other hand it almost sounds like propaganda.
 
2022-11-29 9:06:49 AM  
I thought things sucked for the Colombian national team.
 
2022-11-29 9:07:09 AM  

RandomInternetComment: I wonder if any of the Iranian players can approach the US players and ask how to defect/get asylum in the US.

I mean seriously if these are your tactics at what point if you're in a position of power in Iran you can't self reflect and say... maybe we're the bad guys?

On the other hand it almost sounds like propaganda.


It's a nice thought but if they get caught doing that their families WILL be executed after being tortured.

I get the feeling a second Iranian revolution may be in the works, and it's about goddamn time.
 
2022-11-29 9:08:15 AM  

RandomInternetComment: I wonder if any of the Iranian players can approach the US players and ask how to defect/get asylum in the US.


This is how to get family members disappeared.
 
2022-11-29 9:09:42 AM  
But we're the bad guys for altering their flag in protest and should be kicked out of the tournament
 
2022-11-29 9:13:43 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."


That is a classic Soviet whatabout.  "Whatabout racism" said Stalin as he sent 14 million to the Gulag and ultimately killed 9 million through intentional killings and poor resource management.
 
2022-11-29 9:16:38 AM  
The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

National Anthem of Iran (Persian/English) - سرود ملی جمهوری اسلامی ایران
Youtube nc0eYxeghjY
 
2022-11-29 9:21:27 AM  

gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.


Hasn't TFG stated he wants this?
 
2022-11-29 9:26:03 AM  

gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.


E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance
 
2022-11-29 9:26:53 AM  
That's quite the loving God that they worship over there.
 
2022-11-29 9:29:13 AM  

king of vegas: That's quite the loving God that they worship over there.


Every God is terrible - especially Eric Clapton.
 
2022-11-29 9:31:39 AM  

brap: [media.tenor.com image 640x552]

I dunno, I think it's kind of catchy.


Better version:
Iran So Far - SNL Digital Short
Youtube zoS8DrrlnTQ
 
2022-11-29 9:31:50 AM  
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Frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2022-11-29 9:34:59 AM  
I had to go stand in the hall during the pledge of allegiance because I refused to say the words- protesting the Vietnam war.  Coincidentally, the clothes I was wearing and the house I lived in were paid for by profits from the Vietnam war.
 
2022-11-29 9:45:31 AM  

gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.


They are doing it, just slowly. For now it is suggestive, not compulsory or regulatory.

/Crying_freedom_eagle_frowns_on_your_lack_of_faux_patriotism.jpg

Since 1998, federal law (viz., the United States Code 36 U.S.C. § 301) states that during a rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present including those in uniform should stand at attention; non-military service individuals should face the flag with the right hand over the heart; members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present and not in uniform may render the military salute; military service persons not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note. The law further provides that when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed. Military law requires all vehicles on the installation to stop when the song is played and all individuals outside to stand at attention and face the direction of the music and either salute, in uniform, or place the right hand over the heart, if out of uniform. The law was amended in 2008, and since allows military veterans to salute out of uniform, as well.[87][88]
The text of 36 U.S.C. § 301 is suggestive and not regulatory in nature. Failure to follow the suggestions is not a violation of the law. This behavioral requirement for the national anthem is subject to the same First Amendment controversies that surround the Pledge of Allegiance.[89] For example, Jehovah's Witnesses do not sing the national anthem, though they are taught that standing is an "ethical decision" that individual believers must make based on their conscience.[90][91][92]
 
2022-11-29 9:55:32 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."


"fark you back. Your government dox and harass people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."
 
2022-11-29 9:56:23 AM  
Ahead of Tuesday's match, an Iranian media outlet called for the U.S. to be expelled from the World Cup after the USMNT's Twitter account posted a scrubbed version of Iran's flag on the social media site.

One Iranian commentator called it "an outrage" and complained that "Iranians would never show such disrespect to a nation's flag!"

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2022-11-29 9:56:49 AM  

Hinged: The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

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Sounds like a really shiatty knockoff of the USSR national anthem.
 
2022-11-29 10:03:21 AM  

Eegah: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance


This is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. How many countries we routinely call 'totalitarian' and/or 'backwards' force their young people to recite a loyalty oath every day?

/Not to mention what we call other countries who declare the candidate with fewer votes the 'winner' like we do
 
2022-11-29 10:06:23 AM  
I say to the USA: You broke it, you fix it.
 
2022-11-29 10:11:40 AM  
The players should do the same thing that any American patriot does when the national anthem is played at a sports event: move your lips and mumble something like "wassa mummble walla walla" so it looks like you're full of pride for your country but can't be damned to actually sing the words.

CSB: I have absolutely no interest in NASCAR but a friend bought me a ticket and took me to a race. I saw these MAGA hat wearing hicks waving flags (US, Gadsden, Trump 2024 and Confederate) but unable to loudly sing the anthem. Most of them didn't so much as move their lips. When I started singing loudly I got some nasty looks. Either they thought I was mocking them (a little) or that I was one of "those people" who loves showtunes and enjoys singing (no to the former, yes to the latter).
 
2022-11-29 10:11:56 AM  
East German National Anthem from Top Secret with subtitles
Youtube guiBOZnixKA

Approaching the Gold Standard of National Anthems.
 
2022-11-29 10:14:17 AM  

king of vegas: That's quite the loving God that they worship over there.


When you're the only Shia country in a Sea of Sunnis that have traditionally worked very hard to kick your ass throughout history, you carry that forward.
 
2022-11-29 10:18:17 AM  

Somacandra: king of vegas: That's quite the loving God that they worship over there.

When you're the only Shia country in a Sea of Sunnis that have traditionally worked very hard to kick your ass throughout history, you carry that forward.



Shia and Sunni haven't been there 'throughout history'.
 
2022-11-29 10:29:17 AM  

Angry Buddha: Hinged: The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

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Sounds like a really shiatty knockoff of the USSR national anthem.


I don't know.  Whatever you may think of socialism, "the Internationale" is a biatchin' tune.  It's right up there with the "Marseillaise" as an anthem (no coincidence that both were written by French guys).

The Internationale "Интернационал" - Russian Version
Youtube t8EMx7Y16Vo


The Iranian anthem, in contrast, just sounds like one of those bland Soviet-puppet-state anthems, going on about how "our tractors are mighty and our factories have exceeded their quotas!"  And it's in an odd time signature - it seems like a slow 6/8, which just doesn't feel right for an anthem.

Now, if you want to talk about blatant rip-offs, you can start with how Australia's anthem is virtually a copy of "the Maple Leaf Forever."
 
2022-11-29 10:37:06 AM  
If you have to threaten to torture someone's family to get them to express their love for you, pack it up, bub, because you've already lost.
 
2022-11-29 10:37:10 AM  

menschenfresser: Eegah: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance

This is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. How many countries we routinely call 'totalitarian' and/or 'backwards' force their young people to recite a loyalty oath every day?

/Not to mention what we call other countries who declare the candidate with fewer votes the 'winner' like we do


This is not a form of brainwashing.
This is not a form of brainwashing.
This is not a form of brainwashing.

WKUK Pledge of Allegiance
Youtube GiCaqA0ngRc
 
2022-11-29 10:37:32 AM  

Angry Buddha: Hinged: The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

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Sounds like a really shiatty knockoff of the USSR national anthem.


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2022-11-29 11:02:35 AM  

Angry Buddha: Hinged: The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

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Sounds like a really shiatty knockoff of the USSR national anthem.


Yeah, theirs was pretty good, especially when sung by a bunch of subamriners.

"Soviet Anthem" The Hunt For Red October
Youtube MrI28-4Zi_E
 
2022-11-29 11:39:31 AM  

moresugar: Angry Buddha: Hinged: The National Anthem if Iran... (and there's not much to it)

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Sounds like a really shiatty knockoff of the USSR national anthem.

I don't know.  Whatever you may think of socialism, "the Internationale" is a biatchin' tune.  It's right up there with the "Marseillaise" as an anthem (no coincidence that both were written by French guys).

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/t8EMx7Y16Vo]

The Iranian anthem, in contrast, just sounds like one of those bland Soviet-puppet-state anthems, going on about how "our tractors are mighty and our factories have exceeded their quotas!"  And it's in an odd time signature - it seems like a slow 6/8, which just doesn't feel right for an anthem.

Now, if you want to talk about blatant rip-offs, you can start with how Australia's anthem is virtually a copy of "the Maple Leaf Forever."


Agreed.  Hence my "shiatty knockoff" caveat.
 
2022-11-29 11:47:22 AM  
If your god tells you to torture others into loving you, your god is evil.
 
2022-11-29 12:13:27 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."


It's really a shame that our side wasn't better prepared for the exchange - they should have been expecting Iran to make it political and run a distraction routine exactly like this.

And there were so many opportunities to make their side look like absolute shiat using those questions, exactly as you did.

"Yep, I'm okay representing a country that doesn't threaten my players with torture and prohibit them from speaking with foreigners by threatening their families. And you aren't an expert on American linguistics, so don't tell me how to speak my own language. Any other questions, you farking shill?"

Also, Fark Iran's mercenary coach and the blood money he's taking for his histrionic performance.
 
2022-11-29 12:23:45 PM  

menschenfresser: Eegah: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance

This is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. How many countries we routinely call 'totalitarian' and/or 'backwards' force their young people to recite a loyalty oath every day?


We literally don't, but it's a nice emotionally-charged attempt at a BSAB regardless.
 
2022-11-29 12:35:07 PM  

BigNumber12: menschenfresser: Eegah: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance

This is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. How many countries we routinely call 'totalitarian' and/or 'backwards' force their young people to recite a loyalty oath every day?

We literally don't, but it's a nice emotionally-charged attempt at a BSAB regardless.


You are correct, we just force school employees to hold the pledge and single out kids who don't participate so they can be identified as troublemakers and ostracized by their classmates. In the case of prayer during team sports, they can also lose their position on the team if they don't participate. Thank you SCOTUS!
 
2022-11-29 12:40:43 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: ArcadianRefugee: "Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."

"fark you back. Your government dox and harass people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."


Now, now. Both countries can be disproportionately influenced by garbage-sucking religious conservatives at the same time!
 
2022-11-29 12:44:38 PM  

gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.


Yes, we've all been alive since 9/11/2001 and are aware what happens at every ping pong tournament to the NFL.

All you have to do is tweet the magic words "won't someone rid me of this priest, er, player?". And suddenly 50 people with AR 15s will be on their way to tell the person why they were wrong to not shove a red white and blue dildo up their arse and scream until their throat was bloody during the national anthem AND my country tis of thee.
 
2022-11-29 1:08:11 PM  

Eegah: BigNumber12: menschenfresser: Eegah: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

E.g., The Pledge of Allegiance

This is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. How many countries we routinely call 'totalitarian' and/or 'backwards' force their young people to recite a loyalty oath every day?

We literally don't, but it's a nice emotionally-charged attempt at a BSAB regardless.

You are correct, we just force school employees to hold the pledge and single out kids who don't participate so they can be identified as troublemakers and ostracized by their classmates. In the case of prayer during team sports, they can also lose their position on the team if they don't participate. Thank you SCOTUS!


And the religious teams can enjoy losing because if you are depending on faith and prayer instead of talent and dedication then your team will suck.
 
2022-11-29 1:15:47 PM  
This is easy. Just reply to Iran by saying that we don't like injustice in the US either.
 
2022-11-29 1:57:22 PM  

Porous Horace: I say to the USA: You broke it, you fix it.


Fix it? we don't do that.

We can break it again, how's friday?
 
2022-11-29 2:36:39 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: ArcadianRefugee: "Are you OK to be representing your country that has so much discrimination against Black people in its own borders?"

"fark you. Your government tortures people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."

"fark you back. Your government dox and harass people if they don't sing your national anthem, you piece of shiat."


A) citation

B) "dox and harass" vs torture
 
2022-11-29 6:40:09 PM  

tsjonesosu: gilgigamesh: You may think I'm exaggerating, but be damned sure there are Repubilicans who see that kind of forced compliance with performative nationalism as an inspirational goal.

They are doing it, just slowly. For now it is suggestive, not compulsory or regulatory.

/Crying_freedom_eagle_frowns_on_your_lack_of_faux_patriotism.jpg

Since 1998, federal law (viz., the United States Code 36 U.S.C. § 301) states that during a rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present including those in uniform should stand at attention; non-military service individuals should face the flag with the right hand over the heart; members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present and not in uniform may render the military salute; military service persons not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note. The law further provides that when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed. Military law requires all vehicles on the installation to stop when the song is played and all individuals outside to stand at attention and face the direction of the music and either salute, in uniform, or place the right hand over the heart, if out of uniform. The law was amended in 2008, and since allows military veterans to salute out of uniform, as well.[87][88]
The text of 36 U.S.C. § 301 is suggestive and not regulatory in nature. Failure to follow the suggestions is not a violation of the law. This behavioral requirement for the national anthem is subject to the same First Amendment controversies that surround the Pledge of Allegiance.[89] For example, Jehovah's Witnesses do not sing the national anthem, though they are taught that standing is an "ethical decision" that individual believers must make based on their conscience.[90][91][92]


What a sad pile of crap...
 
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